Ados said...

Cisco,
I reckon that you probably would have been one of those that hunted Aboriginal people down like dogs.....your ignorance astounds me.

There were over 300 language groups when the colonizers came along and far from a culture in decline, people adapted to some very extreme environments, i.e. the arid regions - pretty amazing if you ask me...you'd last a day...
there are reliable C14 dates for a number of sites in many arid to semi arid areas.

as an archaelogist with 20 years experience, I have personally excavated a number of sites that have dated to more than 30 kya + .
There are a large number of dates for the Pleistocene occupation of Australia and from a scientific point of view, its pretty much agreed, and has been for some time, that Aboriginal people have been here for quite some time.

Its convenient to believe that Aboriginal cultures were in decline at the arrival of the colonizers as it makes it easier to dismiss them as irrelevant and to make the colonizers sound like saviors.....the many massacres and mistreatment belie this.

Thats all well and good for a history lesson, but that is all it bloody is.
No offence meant but all the history lessons in the world aint gonna help the future generations of aboriginals f*&K all
The tent embasy has done f*&k all for the future generations. All the young kids have are very few role models and 4 generations of pissheads and criminals to emulate.
Lving in the past /burning the flag and trashing Julia and the mad abbott aint gonna gonna break the cycle of crime, drunkenness and unemployment.

Unless these useless pricks wake up to that, they are dooming their future generations to the same **** life they have got for themselves.
Only people who can change the future is the aboriginal's themselves not the politicians or anyone else. Wallowing in selfpity and bitterness is just a gutless excuse for their own shortcommings

My thoughts anyway. Id just like to see some positive future for their kids, don't see one at the moment.
W

No offence mate - attitudes like yours are a dime a dozen.

Gizmo said...



A few years ago I was working on several programs for SBS and ABC about Aboriginal housing in Australia and it opened my eyes to the complexity of the problem.
Just a question for you Ados as you have as you said "I have worked and lived with Aboriginal people for most of my working life"
The question is... How many years / generations should the indigenous community be virtually fully supported,1,2....10, 20, 50 or forever more? And at what level of Aboriginal blood should be regarded as indigenous and what would be the cut off point?

Ados said...



Gizmo,
My guess is you already have the answers. Your last question doesn't make any sense.

cisco said...

Yes, I think Gillard is a coward. She is too cowardly to hold referendums on important issues and she is too cowardly to hold an election so we can get rid of her.

Gizmo said...


When I did those programs I went in with a preconceived idea of how to solve the housing problem... but came away with not knowing of how the housing problem could be solved successfully to benefit ALL sides.

The last part of my question to you is at the moment the Australian tax payer / Government would be fair to say financially supports the indigenous community of Australia, how long should the Government continue to do so.... Should they still be supported in the same as they are at the moment in say 5 or 10 generations?

And I have no idea of what the answer is or should be, I actually think it's a problem the Australian population will need to face in the years to come.

Gizmo said...


When I did those programs I went in with a preconceived idea of how to solve the housing problem... but came away with not knowing of how the housing problem could be solved successfully to benefit ALL sides.

The last part of my question to you is at the moment the Australian tax payer / Government would be fair to say financially supports the indigenous community of Australia, how long should the Government continue to do so.... Should they still be supported in the same as they are at the moment in say 5 or 10 generations?

And I have no idea of what the answer is or should be, I actually think it's a problem the Australian population will need to face in the years to come.