fingerbone said..

myusernam said..

u should see the amount of them outside any public hospital. In a wheelchair with IV pole, freshly amputated limb - smoking!

Fxck no there should be no rights, not unless they pay for all medical and ambulance cover.

Smokers talk shxt. They spend so much time talking inane bshxt with strangers at the smoke areas. Also they get really stylised witht he way they smoke, hold their fag, blow out their smoke etc. It's part of their cool. It's like it fxcks withtheir brain as well. At least it lets you know straight away if a person is a tard.

Wow you seem wound up pretty tight there.
Smokes in Australia = $20 pack
Smokes in Bali = $1.70 pack
When you pay over $4000 dollars a year extra tax to the Gov I recon you have paid your medical and Ambulance cover.

how does that sound wound tight? Because I called smokers retards? Slight generalisation but predominatley true. Like the grossly fat being lazy and weak. The same applies to smokers.
And the cost of many surgeries related to smoking is up over the 6 figures.

Smokers and drinkers and obese people - people that die at or before 60 - actually cost society, in dollars, LESS than people that are fit and healthy and live to 100.

Fact.

...so I'm not sure how the government wants to play that.

Rus13b said..

Isnt carbon monoxide, car exhaust worse than ciggie smoke.
lets ban cars cause everyone breaths in that stuff, all day long some people.
If you stand near a road you are breathing it in, maybe just maybe thats why
there are so many cancers around today, more people breathing it in more cancer.
it use to be a free country, if everyone just left everyone else alone there would be
only harmony but no ban this ban that carnt do this or that,
bloody nanny land.

Partial List of Chemicals Associated with Diesel Exhaust
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The following list identifies chemicals commonly associated with exhaust emitted by diesel engines. Chemical names link to the corresponding entry in the OSHA Chemical Sampling Information.
?X?Major Components
?Carbon dioxide
?X?Carbon Dioxide in Workplace Atmospheres. OSHA Analytical Method ID-172, (1990, June).
?Carbon monoxide
?X?Carbon Monoxide in Workplace Atmospheres. OSHA Analytical Method ID-210, (1991, March).
?Nitrogen dioxide
?X?Nitrogen Dioxide In Workplace Atmospheres (Ion Chromatography). OSHA Analytical Method ID-182, (1991, May).
?X?Nitric Oxide and Nitrogen Dioxide [30 KB PDF, 5 pages]. National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) Analytical Method No. 6014, (1994, August 15).
?Nitric oxide
?X?Nitric Oxide In Workplace Atmospheres. OSHA Analytical Method ID-190, (1991, May).
?X?Nitric Oxide and Nitrogen Dioxide [30 KB PDF, 5 pages]. National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) Analytical Method No. 6014, (1994, August 15).
?Particulates not otherwise regulated (Total Dust)
?X?Gravimetric Determination. OSHA Analytical Method PV2121, (2003, March),
?X?Particulates Not Otherwise Regulated, Total [20 KB PDF, 3 pages]. National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) Analytical Method No. 0500, (1994, August 15).
?X?Diesel Particulate Matter (as Elemental Carbon) [122 KB PDF, 5 pages]. National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) Analytical Method No. 5040, (2003, March 15).
?Sulfur dioxide
?X?Sulfur Dioxide, 1011. OSHA Analytical Method 1011, (2007, November).
?X?Sulfur Dioxide in Workplace Atmospheres (Bubbler). OSHA Analytical Method ID-104, (1989, December).
?X?Sulfur Dioxide in Workplace Atmospheres (Impregnated Activated Beaded Carbon). OSHA Analytical Method ID-200, (1992, April).
?X?Sulfur Dioxide [30 KB PDF, 4 pages]. National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) Analytical Method No. 6004, (1994, August 15).
?X?Minor Components
?Acrolein
?X?Acrolein and/or Formaldehyde. OSHA Analytical Method 52, (1989, June).
?X?Aldehydes, Screening [255 KB PDF, 10 pages]. National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) Analytical Method No. 2539, (1994, August 15).
?o-Anisaldehyde
?Benzene [related topic page]
?X?Benzene. OSHA Analytical Method 12 (1980, August).
?X?Benzene. OSHA Analytical Method 1005 (2002, September).
?X?Hydrocarbons, BP 36?X-216 ?XC [128 KB PDF, 8 pages]. National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) Analytical Method No. 1500, (2003, March 15).
?X?Hydrocarbons, Aromatic [135 KB PDF, 7 pages]. National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) Analytical Method No. 1501, (2003, March 15).
?2,3-Benzofuran
?Coumarin
?Formaldehyde [related topic page]
?X?Acrolein and/or Formaldehyde. OSHA Analytical Method 52, (1989, June).
?X?Formaldehyde (Diffusive Samplers). OSHA Analytical Method 1007, (2005, May).
?X?Aldehydes, Screening [255 KB PDF, 10 pages]. National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) Analytical Method No. 2539, (1994, August 15).
?X?Formaldehyde by GC [30 KB PDF, 5 pages]. National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) Analytical Method No. 2541, (1994, August 15).
?4-Hydroxycoumarin
?m-Hydroxyacetophenone
?2-Hydroxy-4-methoxyacetophenone
?Menadione
?6-Methoxytetralone
?6-Methylcoumarin
?3-Methyl-2-cyclopentene-2-ol-one
?Trimethylbenzene (mixed isomers)
?X?Trimethylbenzenes. OSHA Analytical Method PV2091, (1987, September)
?Polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbons
?X?Coal Tar Pitch Volatiles (CTPV); Coke Oven Emissions (COE); Selected Polynuclear Aromatic Hydrocarbons (PAHs). OSHA Analytical Method 58, (1986, July).
?X?Polynuclear Aromatic Hydrocarbons by HPLC [66 KB PDF, 9 pages]. National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) Analytical Method No. 5506, (1998, January 15).
?X?Polynuclear Aromatic Hydrocarbons by GC [37 KB PDF, 7 pages]. National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) Analytical Method No. 5515, (1994, August 15).
?X?Acenaphthene
?X?Acenaphthylene
?X?Anthracene
?X?Benz[a]anthracene
?X?Benzo[b]fluoranthene
?X?Benzo[k]fluoranthene
?X?Benzo[ghi]perylene
?X?Benzo[a]pyrene
?X?Benzo[e]pyrene
?X?Crysene
?X?Dibenz[a,h]anthracene
?X?Fluoranthene
?X?Fluorene
?X?Indeno[1,2,3-cd]pyrene
?X?Naphthalene
?X?Naphthalene. OSHA Analytical Method 35, (1982, April).
?X?Phenanthrene
?X?Pyrene

Yeah, you could sat that.

rockmagnet said..

I stepped outside of my local shopping centre today and this young girl was siting coughing and really hacking her lungs out. I stood there for a while watching her totally dumfounded as she took another drag on her cigarette in between fits of coughing.

See. Darwin was right...

Gizmo said...
Just ban..... And make it an offence... Forever ... the sale of cigarettes to ANY one born after Jan 1st 2000

If the government had any balls they would just ban them full stop.

But that would make them an illegal drug. And we can see how well the government is going in stopping drugs...

In the meanwhile, may as well keep ratcheting up the taxes on cigarettes to really test the theory that the pricing is inelastic.