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petermac33
petermac33
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16 Jul 2012 10:36pm
If this place was covered in them criss cross style you would still be Haarping on about it's still only a theory and screaming show me the data,flightpaths etc while you're being sh/t on by all these trails.

Watch the msm, live in denial,and live happily ever after.
pweedas
pweedas
WA
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16 Jul 2012 11:19pm
Dawn Patrol said...

I love the smell of chem-trails in the morning


Yes. They have the definite aroma of onions.

petermac33 said...

if you want my opinion on this irrelevant question,i would say layers of an onion.



Pweet, you crack me up.
japie
japie
NSW
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17 Jul 2012 7:28am
poor relative said...

If the NWO wanted to dumb the public down why not legalise Marijuana.



What is with the if? Dumbness is already so pervasive it is accepted as the norm.

And if YOU accept it as the norm then do YOU still have the power to extrapolate a conclusion from that?
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
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17 Jul 2012 10:07am
petermac33 said...

If this place was covered in them criss cross style you would still be Haarping on about it's still only a theory and screaming show me the data,flightpaths etc while you're being sh/t on by all these trails.


Ignoring the fact that the criss-cross style is prevalent in places that are under a lot of flight paths, whereas here we have mostly point-to-point flight paths (or something), ie Melbourne > Sydney (which is actually the third busiest route in the world),

The simple fact, the glaringly obvious fault in your conspiracy theory remains. If you wanted to poison a population you wouldn't be spraying chemicals in the upper atmosphere where 99.9% of it would blow away. You would simply add it to the water supply.

Google 'Crop duster'. There's a reason they skim the ground.

So either they are spraying fluoride from planes disguised as commercial airliners, that are on actual commercial airliner flight plans, with actual passengers in them, and they somehow add psychotropic additives to the aviation fuel, and the jets still work, and nobody involved anywhere thinks this is a bad thing and whistleblows, nobody, or they really are commercial flights on commercial flight plans with commercial passengers looking out the window at the engines that are fully not pumping out fluoride. Which one seems more likely. Which one seems ludicrously impossible on a number of levels? I mean if "they" are so smart, as you say, they'd just pump the trails over us at night.


As silly as the fluoride debate is, it is at least somewhat plausible.



Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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17 Jul 2012 8:29am
petermac33 said...

it's still only a theory and screaming show me the data,flightpaths etc while you're being sh/t on by all these trails.



Well then I think we just proved your theory wrong.
It can't be done with commercial airliners covertly
It can't be done with covert flights
And it is ineffective anyway IF it was to be done.

evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
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17 Jul 2012 10:56am
^ Exactly. You don't need to disprove it anyway (which is easy).

THE VERY CONCEPT OF CHEMTRAILS ITSELF IS COMPLETELY FLAWED.
It's a really, really, really ineffective delivery method, and simply wouldn't work.

You wouldn't go to the extreme, even crazy effort described when you could just add it to the water supply. Far, far, far simpler and would actually work.
Dawn Patrol
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WA
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17 Jul 2012 11:09am
evlPanda said...



You wouldn't go to the extreme, even crazy effort described when you could just add it to the water supply. Far, far, far simpler and would actually work.


But they do that as well though yeh? With fluoride, gotta get the people that drink bottled water too
elmo
elmo
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17 Jul 2012 11:25am
Regarding Chemtrails,

I would have thought a petrol additive would have been a more effective means of delivery rather than something up in the jet stream.
pweedas
pweedas
WA
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17 Jul 2012 11:26am
Hey here's a possibility,... they put the chemicals in the toilet water and then pipe the used toilet water into the jet exhaust.
Everyone knows that the toilet water has chemicals in it so no one is suspicious.
ANd everyone knows that just before the plane lands there is a mad rush to the toilets for a wizz. Nobody wants to crash land when they are busting for a wizz.
It's all perfect. It means the chemicals are mostly delivered where they are really needed, over the cities rather than over the mostly unpopulated expanses en-route.
Yes I know that you sometimes see the trails over the outback areas of Australia etc but these are unplanned dumpings usually due to a bad curry on the menu or perhaps a football team drinking too much.
Yep. That'll be it.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
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17 Jul 2012 1:32pm
Dawn Patrol said...

evlPanda said...



You wouldn't go to the extreme, even crazy effort described when you could just add it to the water supply. Far, far, far simpler and would actually work.


But they do that as well though yeh? With fluoride, gotta get the people that drink bottled water too


Well at least that is plausible, as a delivery method.

Again oh enlightened ones: Chemtrails are fantasy. Even if they were real they wouldn't work, at all.
doggie
doggie
WA
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17 Jul 2012 12:00pm
evlPanda said...

Dawn Patrol said...

evlPanda said...



You wouldn't go to the extreme, even crazy effort described when you could just add it to the water supply. Far, far, far simpler and would actually work.


But they do that as well though yeh? With fluoride, gotta get the people that drink bottled water too


Well at least that is plausible, as a delivery method.

Again oh enlightened ones: Chemtrails are fantasy. Even if they were real they wouldn't work, at all.



Cool, we can breath but not drink water, right
petermac33
petermac33
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17 Jul 2012 5:07pm
The level of indoctrination from the cradle by the system of schooling,uni,newspapers,books,tv etc is just too big a hurdle for the masses to overcome.

Acceptance of msm reporting now pervades society.

Evidence supporting a contrary viewpoint against a life-time of mass indoctrination,now crystal clear to me we are fkd.

ok,i surrender,the beLIEf is too embedded.

mocha1
mocha1
WA
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17 Jul 2012 5:09pm
Have a bex (institutionalised agent of mass drugging by govt types) and good lay down. It will all be better in the morning
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
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17 Jul 2012 5:09pm
petermac33 said...

The level of indoctrination from the cradle by the system of schooling,uni,newspapers,books,tv etc is just too big a hurdle for the masses to overcome.

Acceptance of msm reporting now pervades society.

Evidence supporting a contrary viewpoint against a life-time of mass indoctrination,now crystal clear to me we are fkd.

ok,i surrender,the beLIEf is too embedded.




Hey Pete, when we are all wrong and you are right you can laugh at all of us, but until then lol
poor relative
poor relative
WA
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17 Jul 2012 5:54pm
petermac33 said...


ok,i surrender,the beLIEf is too embedded.




Hahahahahaha you are now under my evil spell


Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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17 Jul 2012 6:38pm
petermac33 said...

The level of indoctrination from the cradle by the system of schooling,uni,newspapers,books,tv etc is just too big a hurdle for the masses to overcome.



What - logical thought processes leading to the belief that chemtrails are virtually impossible to covertly execute - and even if they DID do it, they'd be ineffective?

Then yeah we are all guilty of mass dumbness

AUS02
AUS02
TAS
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17 Jul 2012 9:18pm
petermac33 said...



ok,i surrender,the beLIEf is too embedded.





Yep, similar to that silly theory that the earth rotates around the sun - how could the masses possibly believe that one (they must all be stupid)!
saltiest1
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18 Jul 2012 12:36am
elmo
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18 Jul 2012 1:21am
Back to Petermac's original post cut and pasted from the foil hat true believers.

Rather than PM's references which the true believers selectively extracted the occasional word (please note these words may not resemble the original order they were originally placed) from the thesis by Jennifer Luke.

Here's some links to the data from Jennifer Luke's Thesis

http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/pineal/luke-1997.aspx
www.slweb.org/luke-1997.html

If you want more information you can dig through Google Scholar

I would suggest reading it all the way through, the effects may not be what you are led to believe.
japie
japie
NSW
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21 Jul 2012 1:25pm
Apropo above:

petermac33
petermac33
WA
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27 Jul 2012 6:36am
The scientists, who advocate geoengineering methods such as spraying millions of tonnes of reflective particles of sulphur dioxide 30 miles above earth


www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/feb/06/bill-gates-climate-scientists-geoengineering


Perhaps this spraying is going to be used for cover of the other trails?
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
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27 Jul 2012 9:00am
There are worse things than fluoride (and posting about every week)


pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
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27 Jul 2012 9:04am
petermac33 said...
Perhaps this spraying is going to be used for cover of the other trails?

Perhaps..
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
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27 Jul 2012 8:35pm
petermac33 said...

If this place was covered in them criss cross style you would still be Haarping on about it's still only a theory and screaming show me the data,flightpaths etc while you're being sh/t on by all these trails.

Watch the msm, live in denial,and live happily ever after.

The reason you don't see contrails crisscrossing all over WA is that virtually no aircraft overfly. This is about the most isolated corner of the galaxy. Most aircraft don't have the fuel (plus reserves) to do a Sydney/Capetown non-stop flight. Besides, the great circle path would take them nearly 2,000nm south of Perth.

Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23652 posts
WA, 23652 posts
27 Jul 2012 9:42pm
petermac33 said...

The scientists, who advocate geoengineering methods such as spraying millions of tonnes of reflective particles of sulphur dioxide 30 miles above earth


www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/feb/06/bill-gates-climate-scientists-geoengineering


Perhaps this spraying is going to be used for cover of the other trails?


OMG

"They" deny chemtrails exist.

But "they" are going to try and cover them up - and advertise they fact "they" are doing so?

Pitbull
Pitbull
WA
1267 posts
WA, 1267 posts
27 Jul 2012 11:01pm
dinsdale said...

petermac33 said...

If this place was covered in them criss cross style you would still be Haarping on about it's still only a theory and screaming show me the data,flightpaths etc while you're being sh/t on by all these trails.

Watch the msm, live in denial,and live happily ever after.

The reason you don't see contrails crisscrossing all over WA is that virtually no aircraft overfly. This is about the most isolated corner of the galaxy. Most aircraft don't have the fuel (plus reserves) to do a Sydney/Capetown non-stop flight. Besides, the great circle path would take them nearly 2,000nm south of Perth.




May the force be with you.
theDoctor
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28 Jul 2012 1:22am
Mark _australia said...

petermac33 said...

it's still only a theory and screaming show me the data,flightpaths etc while you're being sh/t on by all these trails.



Well then I think we just proved your theory wrong.
It can't be done with commercial airliners covertly
It can't be done with covert flights
And it is ineffective anyway IF it was to be done.





where's YOUR proof....?

fact is we have footage of flights laying trails along the east coast at times that the aus authorities adamantly deny flights were ever in the air space...

we have footage of planes laying trails, with other planes flying ridiculously close by leaving no trails...
close to the point that you've never seen commercial flights flying less than a wing span apart

we have footage of a plane laying trails then disappearing completely, vanishing mid trail overhead in clear blue sky

we have proof and we publish it

but if its not thrown at you, it must not be real right...?


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Pitbull
Pitbull
WA
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27 Jul 2012 11:25pm
Maybe it's just aliens sending a message saying 'We come in peace'
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
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28 Jul 2012 11:06am
I relly don't fink it effects Ozstralians, but....

Harvard Study Finds Fluoride Lowers IQ
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/24/idUS127920+24-Jul-2012+PRN20120724

ehp03.niehs.nih.gov/article/fetchArticle.action;jsessionid=5C98A897B69464FD44D98698EE9FC4A1?articleURI=info%3Adoi%2F10.1289%2Fehp.1104912
www.epa.gov/ncct/toxcast/files/summit/48P%20Mundy%20TDAS.pdf


... You have Chinese, European, Argentinian, North American (US/CA), among other studies; if you still believe it's a "conspiracy theory", you may be experiencing the effects first hand.
I hope your teeth are in good shape.
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