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petermac33
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10 Jul 2012 5:09pm
In the late 90??s, a scientist by the name of Jennifer Luke carries out the first study the effects of sodium fluoride on the pineal gland. She determined that the pineal gland, located in the middle of the brain, was a target for fluoride. The pineal gland simply absorbed more fluoride than any other physical matter in the body, even bones.

Pineal gland is like a magnet to sodium fluoride. This calcifies the gland and makes it no longer effective in balancing the entire hormonal processes through the body.

Various Researches every since have proved Sodium Fluoride goes to the most important gland in the brain? It's the only thing that attacks the most important center of our gland in the brain. It's prevalent in foods, beverages and in our bath and drinking water. Sodium Fluoride is put in 90% of the United States water supply. Water filters you buy in supermarkets do not take the fluoride out. Only reverse osmosis or water distillation. The cheapest way is to buy a water distiller.

Sodium Fluoride is in our water supply, food, pepsi, coke, to dumb down the masses, literally!. The fluoride was introduced into the water by the Nazis and the Russians in their concentration camps to make the camp population docile and do not question authority.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I believe that if you take away the seat of the soul, this disconnects our oneness with our god and power of our source our spirituality and turn us into a mundane slave of secret societies, shadow organizations and the control freak corporate world.

I like to end my article with this quote..

"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it." - :Buddha


www.sott.net/article/247867-Pineal-Gland-and-Flouride-The-Biggest-Cover-Up-in-Human-History
Cassa
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10 Jul 2012 5:19pm
petermac33 said...
I am not a conspiracy theorist,





Your kidding , right???
Chris6791
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10 Jul 2012 5:50pm
Ok, I'll nibble at this one.

Luke hypothesised that there is a link between fluoride and calcification in the pineal gland, she got her hands on 11 cadavers, tested them and they showed really high levels of fluoride and got herself published, nowhere does it say peer reviewed, only published. Her follow up research is on mongolian rats or something but I can't find any results on google for that yet.

I can't see anywhere in her 'research' that fluoride is dumbing down the masses?? So far science is hypothesising that some of the hormones (Melatonin) released by the pineal gland are intended to delay the onset of puberty/sexual development, and if the pineal gland calcifies it may slow or stop producing the hormones resulting is the kids hitting puberty earlier and earlier.

If you are going to regurgitate someone else's conspiracy do some homework and package it better, but you are onto something anyway, I can start eating Red Rooster again, all along I thought it was the hormones in the chickens were responsible for everything.

kiteboy dave
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10 Jul 2012 8:36pm
PM that post is pretty NaF.

Anyway, I rub sodium flouride (as well as calcium) onto my teeth every night, the dentist gave it to me instead of the one-off flouride treatment they usually give after a clean.

I don't really think I'm dumbed down - is that part of the effect too?

I mean what exactly are we supposed to be questioning?

What is it that you would like to be allowed to do, if no-one was in control, what would you have us doing in our daily lives that we can't do now?

As a teenager I worshipped Dead Kennedy's, loved the lyrics. A line you might like to think about:

"Anarchy sounds good to me, until you ask 'who'll fix the sewers?'"




stamp
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10 Jul 2012 9:18pm
'where do you draw the line? i'm not telling you i'm asking you'....i'm playing bedtime for democracy at full volume after your post dave- it's been a while
petermac33
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10 Jul 2012 7:26pm
The petitions against putting fluoride in the water don't get anywhere,ask yourself why?

Forced medication unless you stay away from the tap.

So much research showing it is poison,labelled as a Poison,but somehow kiteboy you voluntarily put the stuff on your teeth.Blind trust in a white coat or a suit on tv,now i understand where you're coming from.
petermac33
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10 Jul 2012 7:46pm
SP.....you get a Gold Star for the above post....from TPTB
busterwa
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10 Jul 2012 7:50pm
I harvest rainwater never been on scheme water therefor my penile system is unaffected..
What do they put in rainwater to turn you into a racist cat hating redneck?
DrJ
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10 Jul 2012 9:53pm
Loony tunes !

Keep wearing the tin foil hat....
busterwa
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10 Jul 2012 8:12pm
"when petermac or waveslave post something i feel like im educated.
pierrec45
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10 Jul 2012 11:00pm
OK, I bite too. Am at work and bored.

"Various Researches every since have proved Sodium Fluoride goes to the most important gland in the brain?"

Please, links that that research is conclusive, has passed major peer reviews and is now accepted science. Else you're quoting fringe, unaccepted science. Should be easy if it's such a fact.

"Pineal most important": please support that the other 3 glands (and the brain itself) are less important?

"The Nazis...": please support that fluoride has the effects you claim (and what the Nazis thought it did) on people. Else it's just wild conjecture. Don't believe what you hear...

"seat of the soul": this is wild now. Can you support that the pineal plays such a role with 'spirituality', as opposed to the rest of the brain. Sounds like belief rather than hard science. Really.

"Buddha quote": OK I won't take things I hear for cash. How does that relate to your post??

All this in good jest - your posts are fun to read and entertaining.
kiteboy dave
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10 Jul 2012 11:12pm
busterwa said...
What do they put in rainwater to turn you into a racist cat hating redneck?


Windsurfers, apparently
kiteboy dave
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10 Jul 2012 11:19pm
stamp said...

'where do you draw the line? i'm not telling you i'm asking you'....i'm playing bedtime for democracy at full volume after your post dave- it's been a while


Chicken**** conformist.. like your parents!
Skid
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10 Jul 2012 11:21pm
petermac33 said...

.....I like to end my article with this quote..

......


"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their validity"

- Abraham Lincoln


Skid
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10 Jul 2012 11:35pm
No offence meant, just found this one and had to share....



Mark _australia
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10 Jul 2012 9:44pm
PeteMc33

Please quote the dosage level of sodium fluoride that was used by the Nazi's to keep the concentration camp inmates docile. (That is, assuming it is true).
Then the concentration in our water supplies.
Then a peer reviewed pharmacological study which states safe dosages of sodium fluoride in humans. Or sh!t, even rats or pigs extrapolated to likely human tolerances!!!

Just wondering...... cos for example phenobarbital is used as a medication for millions of humans. With no ill effects I might add.
In a higher dosage it is used to kill animals ("green dream" at the vet surgery)

Hey lets go back to water. ......it is purified with chlorine gas, that was used to poison soldiers in WW1 and is a terrible way to die with your lungs dissolving as you breathe it in.

The phenobarbital and chlorine examples may prompt you to think about dosage and application before ranting that they (whoever the hell "they" are) are trying to poison us.

Oh no wait - you got it all off the internet from the same site/s that claim/s all kinds of out-there sh!t so the science or proof is irrelevant.



Chris6791
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10 Jul 2012 10:06pm
petermac33 said...

The fluoride was introduced into the water by the Nazis and the Russians in their concentration camps to make the camp population docile and do not question authority.




Hardly a sound scientific study either, lets take a camp full of people already suffering from malnutrition, living in squalor behind razor wire and try and make them docile. Really? Under those conditions you could 'taint' the water with vitamins and minerals and still come up with the same result.
dinsdale
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10 Jul 2012 10:52pm
Without a certain amount of arsenic in your diet you'll become very ill, and can die - true talk!
Mark _australia
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10 Jul 2012 11:04pm
dinsdale said...

Without a certain amount of arsenic in your diet you'll become very ill, and can die - true talk!


I'm off to the playground to chew on the CCA pine logs.....

pweedas
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10 Jul 2012 11:45pm
busterwa said...

I harvest rainwater never been on scheme water therefor my penile system is unaffected..
What do they put in rainwater to turn you into a racist cat hating redneck?


It's laced with cocky poop and pothum pith, with just a hint of rotten gum leaves.
I've been on it for years and it's it's perfectly safe, except it turns you into a racist cat hating redneck. But hey,.. nobody's perfect.
pierrec45
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11 Jul 2012 2:56am
Mark _australia said...
Or sh!t, even rats or pigs extrapolated to likely human

In some cases for pigs, it's interpolation...
desertyank
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11 Jul 2012 2:33am
Does anyone know where I can buy some sodium fluoride before the world ends in december?
myusernam
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11 Jul 2012 9:18am
From your own post! "Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many."

I guess you can pick and chose what you want to believe.

I used to work for the government. I have the answers to a lot of your questions. If you send me some money I might be able to answer some of your questions on flouride and chemtrails.
elmo
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11 Jul 2012 8:03am


I think the most important thing to read about this is the Budda quote at the end (that dude knew his Sh1t)
Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many

Also PM was a bit select with his cut and paste from such reputable web sites as:
www.mysticbanana.com/pineal-gland-our-third-eye-the-biggest-cover-up-in-human-history.html/
theupliftingcrane.wordpress.com/2012/07/02/ancient-egyptian-pineal-gland-connection/
www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=214816
www.wakingtimes.com/2012/06/19/pineal-gland-our-third-eye-the-biggest-cover-up-in-human-history/


Here's the full article



The pineal gland (also called the pineal body, epiphysis cerebri, epiphysis or the "third eye") is a small endocrine gland in the vertebrate brain. It produces the serotonin derivative melatonin, a hormone that affects the modulation of wake/sleep patterns and seasonal functions. Its shape resembles a tiny pine cone (hence its name), and it is located near the center of the brain, between the two hemispheres, tucked in a groove where the two rounded thalamic bodies join.
The Secret : What they don't want you to KNOW!

Every human being's Pineal Gland or The third eye can be activated to spiritual world frequencies and enables you to have the sense of all knowing, godlike euphoria and oneness all around you. A pineal gland once tuned into to proper frequencies with help of meditation, yoga or various esoteric, occult methods, enables a person to travel into other dimensions, popularly known as astral travel or astral projection or remote viewing.

With more advance practice and ancient methods it is also possible to control the thoughts and actions of people in the physical world. Yes, it is bizarre, but the United States, former Soviet Union governments and various shadow organization have been doing this type of research for ages and have succeed far beyond our imagination.

Pineal Gland is represented in Catholicism in Rome; they depict the pineal as a pine cone in art. The ancient societies like the Egyptians and the Romans knew the benefits and exemplified this in their vast symbologies with a symbol of an eye.

Pineal Gland reference is also in back of the U.S. dollar bill with what is called the 'all seeing eye', which is a reference to the ability of an individual (or group of individuals) to use this gland and go to the other side (spiritual world) and possibly control the thoughts and actions of people in the physical world by knowing what they are thinking at all times in our physical world.

Various research being conducted so far confirms that there are certain periods in the night, between the hours of one and four in the morning where chemicals are released in the brain that bring about feelings of connectedness to one's higher source.
The Conspiracy : How they are Killing your Pineal Gland

In the late 90′s, a scientist by the name of Jennifer Luke carries out the first study the effects of sodium fluoride on the pineal gland. She determined that the pineal gland, located in the middle of the brain, was a target for fluoride. The pineal gland simply absorbed more fluoride than any other physical matter in the body, even bones.
Pineal gland is like a magnet to sodium fluoride. This calcifies the gland and makes it no longer effective in balancing the entire hormonal processes through the body.

Various Researches every since have proved Sodium Fluoride goes to the most important gland in the brain? It's the only thing that attacks the most important center of our gland in the brain. It's prevalent in foods, beverages and in our bath and drinking water. Sodium Fluoride is put in 90% of the United States water supply. Water filters you buy in supermarkets do not take the fluoride out. Only reverse osmosis or water distillation. The cheapest way is to buy a water distiller.

Sodium Fluoride is in our water supply, food, pepsi, coke, to dumb down the masses, literally!. The fluoride was introduced into the water by the Nazis and the Russians in their concentration camps to make the camp population docile and do not question authority.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I believe that if you take away the seat of the soul, this disconnects our oneness with our god and power of our source our spirituality and turn us into a mundane slave of secret societies, shadow organizations and the control freak corporate world.

I like to end my article with this quote..

"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

- :Buddha


Pete, I think you have to leave it alone for a bit there's to much milky discharge coming out of your "third" eye
evlPanda
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11 Jul 2012 10:16am
elmo said...



I think the most important thing to read about this is the Budda quote at the end (that dude knew his Sh1t)
Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many



I just wish Peter would read his own quotes.

Poodle
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11 Jul 2012 9:24am
petermac33 said...

The fluoride was introduced into the water by the Nazis and the Russians in their concentration camps to make the camp population docile and do not question authority.


I think you might find that was actually Bromide, not Fluoride.

Oh sheet, I probably should not have said that......

Poods
poor relative
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11 Jul 2012 10:36am

I found two peer reviewed journals that suggest increases in fluoride exposure is correlated to a lower IQ development in children

http://md1.csa.com/partners/viewrecord.php?requester=gs&collection=ENV&recid=3927109&q=fluoride&uid=791909420&setcookie=yes

md1.csa.com/partners/viewrecord.php?requester=gs&collection=ENV&recid=3985881&q=fluoride&uid=791909420&setcookie=yes

However these are unusually high levels of Fluoride, none of which Australians are exposed to.

This study www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3461356 found "no association between exposure to fluoridated water and a large range of measures of child health and behaviour taken during the period from birth to seven years"


I also found that 400 million people worldwide have Fluoride in their water and 92% of West Australians have access to Fluoride water

bfsweb.org/onemillion/09%20One%20in%20a%20Million%20-%20The%20Extent%20of%20Fluoridation.pdf


My take, well there might be something in higher doses of fluoride causing problems however there is only 1 part per million fluoride in tap water which according to research is insignificant and provides cheap health benefits.

If you're worried about Fluoride taking you down drink bottled water from the shop.


Poida
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11 Jul 2012 10:50am


doggie
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11 Jul 2012 10:52am
poor relative said...



If you're worried about Fluoride taking you down drink bottled water from the shop.





But the plastic makes you a homo
rod_bunny
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11 Jul 2012 11:38am
poor relative said...


I also found that 400 million people worldwide have Fluoride in their water and 92% of West Australians have access to Fluoride water


Does this explain the Wait Awhile attitude of the majority of WA people?
sn
sn
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11 Jul 2012 3:01pm
rod_bunny said...
Does this explain the Wait Awhile attitude of the majority of WA people?


I thought it was "Way Ahead"- not "Wait Awhile"
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