Found it . It ought to be true!

www.hoax-slayer.com/gillard-lesbian-relationship-hoax.shtml

The original isn't as exciting

This thread has been fun Cisco.

Got any more?

Personally I couldn't care less if she is homosexual or straight. Its her life and the only people affected by her sexuality are herself and her sexual partners.

What I am concerned about is we have a Prime Minister who has never had a real job in her life outside of politics or lobbying. She has never run a business. She has never broken a sweat in the course of a day's work. She is a prime example of the politicing class that overlords us, taking our money as we are too foolish in their eyes to spend it as wisely as they can. Abbott is no better.

FlySurfer said...

kiteboy dave said...

"Juliar" must be the dumbest word of 2011 by a country mile and anyone who uses it regularly just looks like an alan jones loving twit.

Politics is the art of reaching the best agreement possible in the given circumstances.

Juliar is a name, in this case a descriptive name like Kiteboy and it's used to identify the person.
I find it fulfils it's purpose of uniquely identifying that person we call our prime minister, the representative of our nation.
A country mile is just as long as a standard mile, but she is the most dishonest politician Australia has ever had.
She makes Mark Latham look sane.
Australia dodged a bullet with Latham, but we copped it with her.

She deceived her way in to power and day she's removed will be a good day for Australia.

So seriously, when's Kevin coming back?

You should be looking to your own side FS. I reckon they'd be more chance of of a leadership spill on the conservative side than on ours. Smith ,Shorten and Paul Keating would all have more support inside the party. And the Juliar thing...... If you think that the electorate is going to vote her down on the carbon tax "promise" then I think you're wrong. It's going to be 3 years after the "Promise",and the Tax will be in the compensation up and running. I just don't think that will work for the Tories. Abbotts whole message is an opposition leaders position, and in a campaign for Prime Minister, Gillard will eat him alive. I may be kicking myself in the nuts(if thats possible) but I'm happy for the conservatives to crap on endlessly about the carbon tax and "the promise", It makes them sound like those people that backed BETA over VHS. Everybody had moved on. And so should the Coalition.

log man said...
You should be looking to your own side FS. I reckon they'd be more chance of of a leadership spill on the conservative side than on ours. Smith ,Shorten and Paul Keating would all have more support inside the party. And the Juliar thing.

I have no preference Labour vs Liberal, it's like Macas vs Hungry Jacks/Burger King... wait I prefer a Whopper, but they're both junk.

It's the fact that I have to listen to the <tard on TV/Radio, and I find Juliar embarrassing as an Australian representative on the world stage.

I value intelligence, honesty and integrity in a leader, and she doesn't have any of those qualities, in fact she's dumb, dishonest and deceitful.

Kevin was the best thing to ever happen to labour, and that Welsh wranger trash stabbed him in the back, after he trusted her.

pweedas said...
We got shafted with an inferior system because we were bullied into it.

You are referring to the current government aren't you??

pweedas said...

Mr Log man sir, I will remind you that BETA always was a better system than VHS, so I'm not sure if that statement helps your point.
Those who rabbited on about it being better were RIGHT.
We got shafted with an inferior system because we were bullied into it.

No sorry , Maybe I didn't make myself clear. I meant people were arguing about what video format to use as DVD was taking over

Hiko said...

What I find fascinating about this is that the question is being raised at all
Australia like most western democracies is a representative democracy You elect
your representatives and then they wield enormous power over the country and its citizens until the next elections and noone seems to know whether the above article about the prime minister is true or not
In other words noone seems to know diddly squat about who is representing them what their values or agendas are or much else

Yes Hiko. Really representative democracy has met it's use by date. The idea of us getting together once every three or four years to elect someone to represent us for the next three or four years is really quite laughable. How many Aussies wanted our federal politicians to have a huge pay rise?

The party political system is an antithesis to representative democracy. However we have a system where they are fused at the hip. The fusion is more abhorrent when you consider the incredibly narrow membership base of political parties. In no way do they represent society.

The issue is they are all the same. The most quickest solution is for voters to vote against sitting members. Safe seats are treated as valuable property by political parties. If citizens made safe seats worthless we would be on our way to restoring democracy. We wouldn't have to worry about Julia or Tony if they were voted out of office. One of the greatest events of modern Australian politics was when John Howard lost his seat.

Mobydisc said...

Hiko said...

What I find fascinating about this is that the question is being raised at all
Australia like most western democracies is a representative democracy You elect
your representatives and then they wield enormous power over the country and its citizens until the next elections and noone seems to know whether the above article about the prime minister is true or not
In other words noone seems to know diddly squat about who is representing them what their values or agendas are or much else

Yes Hiko. Really representative democracy has met it's use by date. The idea of us getting together once every three or four years to elect someone to represent us for the next three or four years is really quite laughable. How many Aussies wanted our federal politicians to have a huge pay rise?

The party political system is an antithesis to representative democracy. However we have a system where they are fused at the hip. The fusion is more abhorrent when you consider the incredibly narrow membership base of political parties. In no way do they represent society.

The issue is they are all the same. The most quickest solution is for voters to vote against sitting members. Safe seats are treated as valuable property by political parties. If citizens made safe seats worthless we would be on our way to restoring democracy. We wouldn't have to worry about Julia or Tony if they were voted out of office. One of the greatest events of modern Australian politics was when John Howard lost his seat.

I think that'd have to rate as one of the smartest, best posts I've read on this forum in the political vein, mobydisc. You get a green thumb from me sir.

FlySurfer said...

Juliar is a name, in this case a descriptive name like Kiteboy and it's used to identify the person.

Well Derr, I got that. My point was that it's an exceedingly dumb one and reflects badly on you, good sir.

she is the most dishonest politician Australia has ever had.

No, she's not by ... err.. a country mile. That was my point. Abbott is a far more dishonest politician. Refer to my previous post for some examples. Hawke, Keating, and Howard were known to drop a porky too.

She makes Mark Latham look sane.

why? What has she done that's insane? I can't think of anything.

She deceived her way in to power

As did Abbott

The day she's removed will be a good day for Australia.

I disagree. Much quality law has been passed in the last year. The NBN is a thing of wonder and joy. Our economy is doing well. And she has displayed remarkable grace under fire, particularly considering the sustained attack from the murdoch political wing.

adolf said...

^^^ Hey Cisco, ever heard of a program called photoshop?

But photoshop wasn't around in 1981. Stupid.

Really representative democracy has met it's use by date.

Your nomination for better system would be......?

How about a return to following our Australian Constitution as it was written, to give your allegiance to any other than Australia is illegal.
An Australian elected politician is supposed to be directed only by those who elected them- not an over-riding political party.
To belong to a political party is technically treason as you are requiring your members to follow party line.

the incredibly narrow membership base of political parties. In no way do they represent society.

I think they do. Maybe not your group of mates, but again that's projecting that everyone is the same as you. It's a free country, you can join any party if you feel strongly enough. You can even start your own if you think your views represent the people more than the established parties.

Technically- only independant politicians are following the constitution requirements.

If citizens made safe seats worthless we would be on our way to restoring democracy.

without political parties- there would be no safe seats.

How about a return to following our Australian Constitution as it was written, to give your allegiance to any other than Australia is illegal.
An Australian elected politician is supposed to be directed only by those who elected them- not an over-riding political party.
To belong to a political party is technically treason as you are requiring your members to follow party line. On the Allegiance to the Australian constitution:So do you mean we should remove the Queen and the Governor General from our constitution? So you'd expect all Catholics to disobey popey? Would my mum have to barrack for Australia instead of England in the cricket? In reality These identity questions are alot deeper and alot more complicated than that. And what does it matter if people are different to you?. And anyway our "constitution" is a pretty malleable thing...... and a pretty ****ed up thing if Whitlams dismissal is any measure. And on the other stuff..... Bollocks

Bringing up the constitution is interesting. Has anyone ever read it? I've read a bit of it a while ago and it really is a strange document. Its strange as it really has little relationship with how modern Australian politics works.

Kiteboy, why wouldn't bringing in new MPs be a good thing? New players bring enthusiasm, fresh ideas, thinking outside of the box. Sure they wouldn't have experience but why is that bad? Our parliaments are full of hacks who are there because of the arse they licked and the favours they have to fulfill.

The electorate I live in is a prime example. Its a safe Liberal "Blue Ribbon" seat that has had the same MP for about 30 years. He does little for the electorate besides sending letters every now and them telling us how great he is. At the last federal election the ALP put up a candidate who obviously had no chance of winning. So he wasn't a unionist or political staffer who had kissed the required arses and sold his soul. He seemed like a reasonable bloke, running his own business, studying for a PhD, quite young in his early thirties. I put him at number 1 even though had no desire for the ALP to win the election. Of course my vote made no difference but it wouldn't have made any difference if I'd voted any other way.


How can anyone say representative democracy works in Australian politics? There are numerous examples where the system is broken. Here are three quick ones I can think of:

ALP federal MPs supporting the reduction of trade tariffs that result in factories closing and jobs being lost in their electorates.

Liberal Party MPs supporting the hard line, turn the boats around, policy for asylum seekers coming to Australia by boat.

Almost all federal MPs and senators supporting Australia's involvement in the military invasion of Iraq when most Australians were against it.

Representative democracy was developed in England at a time when the fastest form of communication was a man on a horse, the franchise was very limited and literacy rates were quite low. Mass media did not exist. So it made sense to have someone in parliament to represent their electorate.

What to replace it with? The way we are going we are replacing it with a fascist system where opposing the state is a treasonous act.