lotofwind said..
ummmmmmm, because your not fully vaxed

'Your' what?

Pugwash said..

psychojoe said..
One of the school dads copped appendicitis after his second jab. He and his wife had no idea that there was a plausible correlation. Three days in hospital. Just quietly, it's one of the most common severe adverse events with 7/2,000 in the adult age group in the (presumably biased) RCT.
What does informed consent mean?

Bugger... lucky the appendix is only for the bits that don't belong in the main body

On the plus side, a new compensation scheme has been promulgated that could see him receiving up to $5,000 of our collective hard-earned for his troubles

kiterboy said..

lotofwind said..
ummmmmmm, because your not fully vaxed

'Your' what?

We'll all accept your superior spelling when we see you referring to your 'phone use. Ignorant people who don't realise the importance of the apostrophe that signifies the deleted letters are clearly incapable of cogent thoughts.

And or should be excluded from all venues and travelling?

Yes

japie said..

Pugwash said..

japie said..

Harrow said..

japie said..
Well unless the Rona picks it's game up the vaccines are going to win the mortality race.

460 odd dead from the death shot with only 30% vaccinated versus an almost two year total of 999 for the Rona.

Looks pretty straight forward to me.

Yikes

I found a reference for 7 deaths, where does the 460 come from?

456

www.tga.gov.au/database-adverse-event-notifications-daen

TGA has 338 adverse reactions: www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-26-08-2021

That's a LOT different to 460 deaths!!

Go to the website in the link I posted. Search for Covid under medicines and select all four vaccines. Enter the dates and wait for ages.

The screen shot below is the result I got twenty minutes ago after waiting nearly and hour. You will notice that the 456 deaths I quoted yesterday has crept up to 462.

RIP

Adverse events 48374. Hopefully they will recover




EDIT

It also lists below the summary all of the reports in spreadsheet format

OK... so we agree the TGA is the source of info... The TGA does, however, have a different way of presenting its data than the method you use. The TGA investigates the reported reactions, then reports numbers, rather than simply pulling total and unsubstantiated data...

Think I'll go with the TGA, not Japie... Soz...

The TGA said..
Since the beginning of the vaccine rollout to 22 August 2021, over 17.1 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given. So far, the TGA has found that 7 reports of deaths were linked to immunisation from 476 reports received and reviewed. These deaths occurred after the first dose of the Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) vaccine - 6 were TTS cases and one was a case of immune thrombocytopenia (ITP)

If you are happy to rely on their data, surely you'll be happy to rely on their informed treatment of their data.

Source: www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-26-08-2021

japie said..

Pugwash said..

japie said..

Harrow said..

japie said..
Well unless the Rona picks it's game up the vaccines are going to win the mortality race.

460 odd dead from the death shot with only 30% vaccinated versus an almost two year total of 999 for the Rona.

Looks pretty straight forward to me.

Yikes

I found a reference for 7 deaths, where does the 460 come from?

456

www.tga.gov.au/database-adverse-event-notifications-daen

TGA has 338 adverse reactions: www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-26-08-2021

That's a LOT different to 460 deaths!!

Go to the website in the link I posted. Search for Covid under medicines and select all four vaccines. Enter the dates and wait for ages.

The screen shot below is the result I got twenty minutes ago after waiting nearly and hour. You will notice that the 456 deaths I quoted yesterday has crept up to 462.

RIP

Adverse events 48374. Hopefully they will recover




EDIT

It also lists below the summary all of the reports in spreadsheet format

That site clearly says that "an adverse event report does not mean that the medicine is the cause of the adverse event"
I'll bet that the vast preponderance of deaths associated with the vaccines were frail people in nursing homes that had quite a high chance of dying on any given day.

kiterboy said..

lotofwind said..

kiterboy said..

lotofwind said..
ummmmmmm, because your not fully vaxed and are scared of and dont trust the vax.
But I think you are just splitting hairs now in desperation.

In desperation of what?
I'm not the one accepting experimental treatments.

So to your definition of not being fully vaxed...you are now calling people who don't get the yearly flu shot as anti-vaxers then.

Do you also wish that those people would get the flu and die?
And or should be excluded from all venues and travelling?
They are anti-vaxxers after all according to your definition.
People who don't get the flu shot could pass it onto someone vulnerable who could die!

more hair splitting
I hope you realize Im NOT trying to convince you to get the jab. Being an antivaxer is your right, please stick to your principles.
I think main land Australia will be better off now that you are stuck out in the middle of nowhere on detention island, for the rest of your life never to leave.
Can you even get the vax out there yet?

Where's the hair splitting on my part?
Stick to your principles, people who don't get the flu shot are antivaxxers according to your definition.

You can't have it one way and not the other, no matter how deluded you are.

Yes, that is 100% right, glad you can finally see it.

You know you have made the wrong decision when Pauline Hanson has now joined the antivaxers fight, lol,
Now the queen of the nut jobs is getting vocal, the few antivaxers will probly get the jab now that shes involved.

lotofwind said..

kiterboy said..

lotofwind said..

kiterboy said..

lotofwind said..
ummmmmmm, because your not fully vaxed and are scared of and dont trust the vax.
But I think you are just splitting hairs now in desperation.

In desperation of what?
I'm not the one accepting experimental treatments.

So to your definition of not being fully vaxed...you are now calling people who don't get the yearly flu shot as anti-vaxers then.

Do you also wish that those people would get the flu and die?
And or should be excluded from all venues and travelling?
They are anti-vaxxers after all according to your definition.
People who don't get the flu shot could pass it onto someone vulnerable who could die!

more hair splitting
I hope you realize Im NOT trying to convince you to get the jab. Being an antivaxer is your right, please stick to your principles.
I think main land Australia will be better off now that you are stuck out in the middle of nowhere on detention island, for the rest of your life never to leave.
Can you even get the vax out there yet?

Where's the hair splitting on my part?
Stick to your principles, people who don't get the flu shot are antivaxxers according to your definition.

You can't have it one way and not the other, no matter how deluded you are.

Yes, that is 100% right, glad you can finally see it.

So you also support the barring from travel and public venues, those who don't get the yearly flu shot.

Nice to know. Speaks volumes on your lack of intelligence.

lotofwind said..
Dry your eyes kitekid, mummy's here to give you a kiss. lol

It's a nice thought, but she doesn't kiss as good as your mum.

lotofwind said..
Thats not what your dad said

Yeah, but he prefers redheads. But he did also say you were tighter.

Yes I know, I shouldnt of answered kitekids question and started this display of intelligent conversation, sorry everyone, I promise not to get him all excited again.

And if THEY were lying about that what else are they lying about eh, eh ??????

Do your own research, even a child can see that.

Sorry to interrupt the love-in but it looks like Ronapreve is on the way in.
www.thepharmaletter.com/article/roche-progresses-ronapreve-approval-in-australia

Pugwash said..

japie said..

Pugwash said..

japie said..

Harrow said..

japie said..
Well unless the Rona picks it's game up the vaccines are going to win the mortality race.

460 odd dead from the death shot with only 30% vaccinated versus an almost two year total of 999 for the Rona.

Looks pretty straight forward to me.

Yikes

I found a reference for 7 deaths, where does the 460 come from?

456

www.tga.gov.au/database-adverse-event-notifications-daen

TGA has 338 adverse reactions: www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-26-08-2021

That's a LOT different to 460 deaths!!

Go to the website in the link I posted. Search for Covid under medicines and select all four vaccines. Enter the dates and wait for ages.

The screen shot below is the result I got twenty minutes ago after waiting nearly and hour. You will notice that the 456 deaths I quoted yesterday has crept up to 462.

RIP

Adverse events 48374. Hopefully they will recover




EDIT

It also lists below the summary all of the reports in spreadsheet format

OK... so we agree the TGA is the source of info... The TGA does, however, have a different way of presenting its data than the method you use. The TGA investigates the reported reactions, then reports numbers, rather than simply pulling total and unsubstantiated data...

Think I'll go with the TGA, not Japie... Soz...

The TGA said..
Since the beginning of the vaccine rollout to 22 August 2021, over 17.1 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given. So far, the TGA has found that 7 reports of deaths were linked to immunisation from 476 reports received and reviewed. These deaths occurred after the first dose of the Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) vaccine - 6 were TTS cases and one was a case of immune thrombocytopenia (ITP)

If you are happy to rely on their data, surely you'll be happy to rely on their informed treatment of their data.

Source: www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-26-08-2021

Convoluted logic. It is not their data. It is their data system.

If anything it should be shrieking and clanging warning bells. 462 souls carked it after having the vaccine, 48000 injured and they put a report together telling us that 7 were linked to immunisation?

Same thing in the UK, Europe and the USA. I don't know about here but I know as sure as little green apples that there are virtually no post mortems done in the UK.

They will do anything to try to keep the narrative from falling apart. I am certainly not happy to rely on "their informed treatment of THE data". Far from it. All that it achieves for me is reinforcing a profound distrust of anything they have to offer.

I take my advice from people I trust and who have the balls to stand up and offer informed criticism based on demonstrated experience. Mike Yeadon is one of those people. He worked for Pfizer for a long time in an elevated position. Made a lot of money developing medicines and had absolutely zero to gain by speaking out. Made lots of enemies in fact. How about you have a listen to what he has to say in this excerpt and compare it to the pigswill that the mainstream and government health spokespeople have had to offer.

Starts at 30 minutes in: www.ukcolumn.org/video/doctors-for-covid-ethics-symposium-session-3-first-do-no-harm