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japie
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30 Aug 2021 10:33am
lotofwind said..

japie said..



I do find it funny that the crew trying to make vaping legal have just linked this exact video under the title,
"Doctor proves vaping is healthy, as long as you wear a mask"


We do know that you are very easily amused.
airsail
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30 Aug 2021 12:01pm
Virgin proposal to mandate vaccination for all staff, more and more companies heading down this path.
From now on it is no longer called the dole queue, rather the unvaxed herd.
kiterboy
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30 Aug 2021 10:03am
airsail said..
Virgin proposal to mandate vaccination for all staff, more and more companies heading down this path.
From now on it is no longer called the dole queue, rather the unvaxed herd.






Mr Milk
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30 Aug 2021 12:10pm
That vaccine mandate seems a bit unfair. Maybe it should be vaccination OR ivermectin.
Pugwash
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30 Aug 2021 10:28am
kiterboy said..

Pugwash said..


kiterboy said..



Pugwash said..




kiterboy said..







Mr Milk said..


















Pugwash said..









I read Ivermectin has been loaded with 5G microchips to make sure the distribution is completed.











So when all the farmyard animals go on line it will sound just like a dial up modem connecting









Said the farmyard animal.








Baaaaaahhhhh baaaaahhhh baaaaahhhhh.

Ivermectin. . . for sheep





Ba Ba guinea pig, you know you are a fool,
Yes sir yes sir, jab my arm full
One for disaster, one for the inane
One for the trial rat who really is insane.




Oh, I love your nursery rhyme. It's very funny. It could be better though. Perhaps you can make a tiktok of you singing it? Maybe with some dance along moves?



I knew you'd love it, I wrote it for simple-minded children.


Such quality can only come from first-hand experience.

How's the TikTok coming along?
evlPanda
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30 Aug 2021 12:58pm
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16,000 active cases. 800 in hospital. 120 in ICU. 80 on ventilators.

5% chance of requiring hospital. If just half of just Sydney catches it, that's 125,000 people requiring a hospital.

0.7% requiring ICU is about 35,000 people in the same scenario.

yikes : |
japie
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30 Aug 2021 1:06pm
Well unless the Rona picks it's game up the vaccines are going to win the mortality race.

460 odd dead from the death shot with only 30% vaccinated versus an almost two year total of 999 for the Rona.

Looks pretty straight forward to me.

Yikes
kiterboy
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30 Aug 2021 11:22am
Pugwash said..


kiterboy said..



Pugwash said..




kiterboy said..





Pugwash said..






kiterboy said..









Mr Milk said..






















Pugwash said..











I read Ivermectin has been loaded with 5G microchips to make sure the distribution is completed.













So when all the farmyard animals go on line it will sound just like a dial up modem connecting











Said the farmyard animal.










Baaaaaahhhhh baaaaahhhh baaaaahhhhh.

Ivermectin. . . for sheep







Ba Ba guinea pig, you know you are a fool,
Yes sir yes sir, jab my arm full
One for disaster, one for the inane
One for the trial rat who really is insane.






Oh, I love your nursery rhyme. It's very funny. It could be better though. Perhaps you can make a tiktok of you singing it? Maybe with some dance along moves?





I knew you'd love it, I wrote it for simple-minded children.




Such quality can only come from first-hand experience.

How's the TikTok coming along?




Really good, your mum is performing really well. We're gonna perform it on her onlyfans.
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
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30 Aug 2021 11:39am
kiterboy said..

Pugwash said..



kiterboy said..




Pugwash said..





kiterboy said..






Pugwash said..







kiterboy said..










Mr Milk said..
























Pugwash said..












I read Ivermectin has been loaded with 5G microchips to make sure the distribution is completed.














So when all the farmyard animals go on line it will sound just like a dial up modem connecting












Said the farmyard animal.











Baaaaaahhhhh baaaaahhhh baaaaahhhhh.

Ivermectin. . . for sheep








Ba Ba guinea pig, you know you are a fool,
Yes sir yes sir, jab my arm full
One for disaster, one for the inane
One for the trial rat who really is insane.







Oh, I love your nursery rhyme. It's very funny. It could be better though. Perhaps you can make a tiktok of you singing it? Maybe with some dance along moves?






I knew you'd love it, I wrote it for simple-minded children.





Such quality can only come from first-hand experience.

How's the TikTok coming along?





Really good, your mum is performing really well. We're gonna perform it on her onlyfans.


Wow. That's fascinating.

Remind me, this is from the ultra smart and your belief is Covid is all lies... It's all makin a lot of sense to me
evlPanda
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30 Aug 2021 1:44pm
japie said..


evlPanda said..

You will still catch COVID while immunised, however you are highly likely have only minor symptoms, if any. The viral load you are carrying and shedding (urgh; that term) will be the same as a non-vaccinated, contagious person, however for a much shorter period of time. So, overall you are far less contagious if/when you catch it being immunised, but contagious nonetheless.


Seriously Evil! How on earth can anyone possibly know that?

For starters it is an established fact that people have caught Covid and not realised they have had it. If they'd been vaccinated? What then? Would their state of well being have reached euphoria?

Its a logical fallacy to say that the symptoms will be reduced because it it is impossible to quantify what the symptoms would have been.

This is yet another example of the pharmacological doublespeak used to convince people.



You're right but also completely wrong; the worst kind.

With a small sample size, sure, we can't know if an individual has milder symptoms because of the vaccine, or not. You are absolutely correct. Of course!

But with larger sample sizes a pattern can become obvious. We have an enormous sample size to work with.

e.g. is this coin biased towards heads or tails? With one or two coin flips nobody could possibly know that. But with hundreds of millions of flips any bias would become clear.

This is something called "statistics". Yes, it is sometimes dubious, but not when the results are so conclusive. And on the larger set of data you are incorrect. We can know, the same way we can't know about one coin flip, but we can know about millions of coin flips.

aci.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/670028/20210812-Monitor-COVID19-vaccines-cases-and-variants.pdf

Vaccines are effective against hospitalisation about 80%, and against death 90%.

Delta, and even newer variants, will very likely reduce this effectiveness somewhat. Nonetheless the vaccine will be > 0% effective.
kiterboy
kiterboy
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2614 posts
30 Aug 2021 11:50am
Pugwash said..

kiterboy said..


Pugwash said..




kiterboy said..





Pugwash said..






kiterboy said..







Pugwash said..








kiterboy said..











Mr Milk said..


























Pugwash said..













I read Ivermectin has been loaded with 5G microchips to make sure the distribution is completed.















So when all the farmyard animals go on line it will sound just like a dial up modem connecting













Said the farmyard animal.












Baaaaaahhhhh baaaaahhhh baaaaahhhhh.

Ivermectin. . . for sheep









Ba Ba guinea pig, you know you are a fool,
Yes sir yes sir, jab my arm full
One for disaster, one for the inane
One for the trial rat who really is insane.








Oh, I love your nursery rhyme. It's very funny. It could be better though. Perhaps you can make a tiktok of you singing it? Maybe with some dance along moves?







I knew you'd love it, I wrote it for simple-minded children.






Such quality can only come from first-hand experience.

How's the TikTok coming along?






Really good, your mum is performing really well. We're gonna perform it on her onlyfans.



Wow. That's fascinating.

Remind me, this is from the ultra smart and your belief is Covid is all lies... It's all makin a lot of sense to me


So...where have I ever said I thought Sars-Cov-2 and Covid was all lies and make believe?

Please, I'm fascinated to know. Please quote it directly.
rainbowfish
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30 Aug 2021 1:00pm
I can only imagine the anxiety amongst the anti vaxxers, waiting for the announcement of V Day (Vaccination Day) or D Day (Disappoint Day) when their "freedom" will be seriously curtailed. If you can do one thing please, save your ranting and abuse for the 3 bouncers at the pub, not the part time 16yo girl at the local bakery. "We the Sheeple" would appreciate it. Ta.
rainbowfish
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30 Aug 2021 1:04pm
My apologies. That should read "We the Sheeple" would appreciate it. Baa.
kiterboy
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30 Aug 2021 1:32pm
The term 'anti vaxxer' gets bandied around here a lot.

Would anyone care to clearly define what an 'anti vaxxer' is?
Harrow
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30 Aug 2021 3:45pm
japie said..
Well unless the Rona picks it's game up the vaccines are going to win the mortality race.

460 odd dead from the death shot with only 30% vaccinated versus an almost two year total of 999 for the Rona.

Looks pretty straight forward to me.

Yikes

I found a reference for 7 deaths, where does the 460 come from?
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
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30 Aug 2021 1:58pm
Harrow said..


japie said..
Well unless the Rona picks it's game up the vaccines are going to win the mortality race.

460 odd dead from the death shot with only 30% vaccinated versus an almost two year total of 999 for the Rona.

Looks pretty straight forward to me.

Yikes



I found a reference for 7 deaths, where does the 460 come from?



It's green apple splatters from the back end of a male bovine.

This link might be useful: www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-26-08-2021
lotofwind
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30 Aug 2021 4:04pm
Of those 7 deaths, 6 of them were elderly over 60 years old, so going by the antivaxers veiw point, they dont matter cause they are old anyway.
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
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30 Aug 2021 2:09pm
lotofwind said..
Of those 7 deaths, 6 of them were elderly over 60 years old, so going by the antivaxers veiw point, they dont matter cause they are old anyway.


Yes, sadly that seems to be what they believe.
psychojoe
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30 Aug 2021 2:10pm
One of the school dads copped appendicitis after his second jab. He and his wife had no idea that there was a plausible correlation. Three days in hospital. Just quietly, it's one of the most common severe adverse events with 7/2,000 in the adult age group in the (presumably biased) RCT.
What does informed consent mean?
kiterboy
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2614 posts
30 Aug 2021 2:11pm
What's the definition of an antivaxer?
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
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30 Aug 2021 4:16pm
kiterboy said..
What's the definition of an antivaxer?


Someone who dosent trust or believe in a vaccine.
airsail
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30 Aug 2021 4:21pm
kiterboy said..
What's the definition of an antivaxer?



Anti-vaxxer" refers to people who disagree with the use of vaccines for a variety of reasons. For example, some view vaccines as an infringement on their human rights.

www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/anti-vaxxer

Do we have to do everything for you kitekid, didn't you go to school?
japie
japie
NSW
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30 Aug 2021 4:26pm
Harrow said..

japie said..
Well unless the Rona picks it's game up the vaccines are going to win the mortality race.

460 odd dead from the death shot with only 30% vaccinated versus an almost two year total of 999 for the Rona.

Looks pretty straight forward to me.

Yikes


I found a reference for 7 deaths, where does the 460 come from?


456

www.tga.gov.au/database-adverse-event-notifications-daen
lotofwind
lotofwind
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30 Aug 2021 4:33pm
So you exaggerated the number to try make it sound more scary.

I thought you said you dont read or believe any statistics from any of the government sites as they are not correct and cant be trusted ?
Pugwash
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WA
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30 Aug 2021 2:34pm
psychojoe said..
One of the school dads copped appendicitis after his second jab. He and his wife had no idea that there was a plausible correlation. Three days in hospital. Just quietly, it's one of the most common severe adverse events with 7/2,000 in the adult age group in the (presumably biased) RCT.
What does informed consent mean?


Bugger... lucky the appendix is only for the bits that don't belong in the main body
Gboots
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30 Aug 2021 4:35pm
Mr Milk said..
That vaccine mandate seems a bit unfair. Maybe it should be vaccination OR ivermectin.


You are making too much common sense .
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
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30 Aug 2021 2:38pm
japie said..

Harrow said..


japie said..
Well unless the Rona picks it's game up the vaccines are going to win the mortality race.

460 odd dead from the death shot with only 30% vaccinated versus an almost two year total of 999 for the Rona.

Looks pretty straight forward to me.

Yikes



I found a reference for 7 deaths, where does the 460 come from?



456

www.tga.gov.au/database-adverse-event-notifications-daen


TGA has 338 adverse reactions: www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-26-08-2021

That's a LOT different to 460 deaths!!
kiterboy
kiterboy
2614 posts
2614 posts
30 Aug 2021 2:41pm
airsail said..

kiterboy said..
What's the definition of an antivaxer?




Anti-vaxxer" refers to people who disagree with the use of vaccines for a variety of reasons. For example, some view vaccines as an infringement on their human rights.

www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/anti-vaxxer

Do we have to do everything for you kitekid, didn't you go to school?


Thanks airhead.

So the question has to be asked, why are you calling people on here who are fully vaccinated, anti-vaxxer because they don't want to have an experimental treatment injected into them?
kiterboy
kiterboy
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2614 posts
30 Aug 2021 2:42pm
lotofwind said..

kiterboy said..
What's the definition of an antivaxer?



Someone who dosent trust or believe in a vaccine.


Same question for you then, please.

Why are you calling people on here who are fully vaccinated, anti-vaxxer because they don't want to have an experimental treatment injected into them?
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
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30 Aug 2021 4:51pm
ummmmmmm, because your not fully vaxed and are scared of and dont trust the vax.
But I think you are just splitting hairs now in desperation.
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