So why is this 'vaccine', fully approved and also only approved for EUA?
Anyone?

www.fda.gov/media/144414/download

The FDA-approved COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) and the FDA-authorized Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) have the same formulation and can be used interchangeably to provide the COVID-19 vaccination series.[1]

[1] The licensed vaccine has the same formulation as the EUA-authorized vaccine and the products can be used interchangeably to provide the vaccination series without presenting any safety or effectiveness concerns. The products are legally distinct with certain differences that do not impact safety or effectiveness.

I heard there is a new covid variant getting about, I was told it was called delta+

Chris 249 said..

japie said..

airsail said..

Raise you one

Ok Japie, if you are that sure of your claims then let's make a bet.

There's plenty of people here who know who I am and who can witness this. I will now bet you $10,000 that the governments will lift the lockdowns. Since you are so sure of your claims, I assume you'll give me 10 to 1 odds.

Come on, how about it? It's a simple bet - if the Australian governments don't lift the lockdowns I will pay you $10,000.

Surely you're going to put your money where your mouth is?

Don't be ridiculous. The reason I stuck that up was a flippant retort to Airsail's provocative meme. Of course they will "open up".

What I do know is that now they've "locked down" a few times they won't be nearly as hesitant to do it again because people have become acceptant of it.

Conditioned if you like!

And in my 66 years I've not bought more than ten lottery tickets and only ever bet on a horse once so there would be bugger all chance anyway.

Meanwhile in Darwin... rumble.com/embed/vizht0/

kiterboy said..

FormulaNova said..
If you are unlucky enough to be exposed to the virus...
I hope for most people this does not become an issue.

FTFY

I hope you can 'fix' your own health if you end up getting sick from Covid. Clearly the people that have died or even gotten severely ill from Covid never thought it would be an issue for them. Its human nature that ' it's not going to happen to me... blah blah, I eat macro nutrients, and am not overweight '.

TonyAbbott said..
I heard there is a new covid variant getting about, I was told it was called delta+

You seriously don't want the Delta + Alpha

FormulaNova said..

kiterboy said..

FormulaNova said..
If you are unlucky enough to be exposed to the virus...
I hope for most people this does not become an issue.

FTFY

I hope you can 'fix' your own health if you end up getting sick from Covid. Clearly the people that have died or even gotten severely ill from Covid never thought it would be an issue for them. Its human nature that ' it's not going to happen to me... blah blah, I eat macro nutrients, and am not overweight '.

Take a look at the data on infection fatality rates from Stanford. Across 32 different locations the median infection fatality rate was .27%. Less than 3 people in 1000,

Medication using the irrefutably effective protocols established by doctors worldwide reduce that by between 74 and 86%. Less than one person in 1000.

We know that those chaps that die usually have co morbidities. Vitamin D deficiency, Zinc, diabetes, stuffing your face disease etc..

I have none of those, I've cycled over 200 K's in the past week and run over 20.

I don't THINK it is not an issue for me,

I know it is not.

Oh and I have a box of ivermectin in my desk drawer!

psychojoe said..

FormulaNova said..

kiterboy said..

FormulaNova said..
If you are unlucky enough to be exposed to the virus...
I hope for most people this does not become an issue.

FTFY

I hope you can 'fix' your own health if you end up getting sick from Covid. Clearly the people that have died or even gotten severely ill from Covid never thought it would be an issue for them. Its human nature that ' it's not going to happen to me... blah blah, I eat macro nutrients, and am not overweight '.

A lot of people that caught nasty Covid were in hospital or a nursing home. It's fair to suggest a lot of them would have cottoned on to the idea that something was amiss with their health by then.

You say 'a lot'. Did you mean "all" or are you conceding that some (i.e. more than zero) caught Covid without any underlying health issues?

Kamikuza said..

FormulaNova said..
Fear is an evolution to stop us doing dumb things.

What, like sailing off in "that direction" to explore new lands? Building flying machines? Climbing on a plank of wood in the crashing waves?

Come on Kami, I thought we were going to actually make statements, not just ambiguous comments that mean nothing. I know using a mobile phone is difficult, but do I have to do all the work and try and understand what your point was, and then no doubt 'get it wrong' because I had to guess what you were trying to say?

If you want to go into a discussion, fear and the level to which people assign it to things varies in the population. We could have people fearful of the vaccine and the rest of us die out in 5 years from an after-effect. Alternatively all the people that don't get vaccinated may all die off next week.

People that sail off into a direction to explore can and have died trying that. Building a flying machine sounds easy too except when you find out that people injured themselves and died from trying.

japie said..

FormulaNova said..

kiterboy said..

FormulaNova said..
If you are unlucky enough to be exposed to the virus...
I hope for most people this does not become an issue.

FTFY

I hope you can 'fix' your own health if you end up getting sick from Covid. Clearly the people that have died or even gotten severely ill from Covid never thought it would be an issue for them. Its human nature that ' it's not going to happen to me... blah blah, I eat macro nutrients, and am not overweight '.

Take a look at the data on infection fatality rates from Stanford. Across 32 different locations the median infection fatality rate was .27%. Less than 3 people in 1000,

Medication using the irrefutably effective protocols established by doctors worldwide reduce that by between 74 and 86%. Less than one person in 1000.

We know that those chaps that die usually have co morbidities. Vitamin D deficiency, Zinc, diabetes, stuffing your face disease etc..

I have none of those, I've cycled over 200 K's in the past week and run over 20.

I don't THINK it is not an issue for me,

I know it is not.

Oh and I have a box of ivermectin in my desk drawer!

Japie, which one of these do you think was not as fit as you, and which ones do you think might have been fitter than you?

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/super-fit-twin-brother-dies-of-covid-after-refusing-covid-jab/news-story/53bc99404607526f007514148f794aea

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/influencer-33-who-thought-covid-didnt-exist-dies-after-catching-the-virus/news-story/56dc92f704419cf0bcd2bf8f9ef4392d

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-australia-researchers-warn-of-longterm-covid19-side-effects/news-story/65bc5e986281d6e0fbb690d3513a5369

I'm not as fit as most of them, so I will stick to the vaccine.

Unlike you I have only done about 120kms on the bike in the last week, and I hate running. I am not sure how many kms on the bike will keep me 'Covid immune', so I will take my chance with the jab.

FormulaNova said..

kiterboy said..

FormulaNova said..

kiterboy said..

FormulaNova said..
If you are unlucky enough to be exposed to the virus...
I hope for most people this does not become an issue.

FTFY

I hope you can 'fix' your own health if you end up getting sick from Covid. Clearly the people that have died or even gotten severely ill from Covid never thought it would be an issue for them. Its human nature that ' it's not going to happen to me... blah blah, I eat macro nutrients, and am not overweight '.

Hmmm, I thought you were a fan of logic a few posts ago...

Survivorship bias or survival bias is the logical error of concentrating on the people or things that made it past some selection process and overlooking those that did not, typically because of their lack of visibility. This can lead to some false conclusions in several different ways. It is a form of selection bias.

Although I suppose in the case of SARS-Cov-2 it should be called non-survivorship bias.

What loop of logic links my post to yours? are you going off on some tangent that you want to because I can't see the link.

Some people have thought they were healthy enough to survive Covid with no effects, and some have died. As I have used the word 'some' it implies that there are others that may have had health issues.

Clearly the fact that 'some' very healthy people have gotten ill or even died suggests that no one knows if it is going to affect them in a bad way or not. Its your roll of the dice, go for it.

Sure, and SOME people who want to become rockstars actually make it, many thousands don't.

If you can't follow the logic in that, well, it explains a lot really.

Hey, FN.

I looked at your first two links (for the two out of six million) and...heart attack and liver failure - yep, undoubtly entirely from covid, and nothing to do with excessive 'roid abuse. I mean 'roid abuse has never been known to cause those issues.

Although it probably did allow them to get some awesome insta pics unlike covid.

It has if you read all the info on it and not just the bits they tell you to believe.
So who is your local doctor who prescribe you this and said it was safe for you personally knowing your medical history and age of nearly 70?
You said earlier you dont have a doctor ?

japie said..

FormulaNova said..

japie said..

FormulaNova said..

kiterboy said..

FormulaNova said..
If you are unlucky enough to be exposed to the virus...
I hope for most people this does not become an issue.

FTFY

I hope you can 'fix' your own health if you end up getting sick from Covid. Clearly the people that have died or even gotten severely ill from Covid never thought it would be an issue for them. Its human nature that ' it's not going to happen to me... blah blah, I eat macro nutrients, and am not overweight '.

Take a look at the data on infection fatality rates from Stanford. Across 32 different locations the median infection fatality rate was .27%. Less than 3 people in 1000,

Medication using the irrefutably effective protocols established by doctors worldwide reduce that by between 74 and 86%. Less than one person in 1000.

We know that those chaps that die usually have co morbidities. Vitamin D deficiency, Zinc, diabetes, stuffing your face disease etc..

I have none of those, I've cycled over 200 K's in the past week and run over 20.

I don't THINK it is not an issue for me,

I know it is not.

Oh and I have a box of ivermectin in my desk drawer!

Japie, which one of these do you think was not as fit as you, and which ones do you think might have been fitter than you?

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/super-fit-twin-brother-dies-of-covid-after-refusing-covid-jab/news-story/53bc99404607526f007514148f794aea

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/influencer-33-who-thought-covid-didnt-exist-dies-after-catching-the-virus/news-story/56dc92f704419cf0bcd2bf8f9ef4392d

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-australia-researchers-warn-of-longterm-covid19-side-effects/news-story/65bc5e986281d6e0fbb690d3513a5369

I'm not as fit as most of them, so I will stick to the vaccine.

Unlike you I have only done about 120kms on the bike in the last week, and I hate running. I am not sure how many kms on the bike will keep me 'Covid immune', so I will take my chance with the jab.

Ivermectin mate. Ivermectin

Prophylaxis

This situation we are in and look like being in in perpetuity could be but a distant memory had we taken the medicate instead of vaccinate route.

I have mentioned this before,... prophylaxis... you need to use it before catching Covid, so how is it going to do you any good in your desk drawer? I am going to ignore the dosage required to show any effect, but that's between you and your life.

You are taking Ivermectin now? If not, why not, and why the mention of prophylaxis? If you are taking it, good luck.

Carantoc said..
Hey, FN.

I looked at your first two links (for the two out of six million) and...heart attack and liver failure - yep, undoubtly entirely from covid, and nothing to do with excessive 'roid abuse. I mean 'roid abuse has never been known to cause those issues.

Although it probably did allow them to get some awesome insta pics unlike covid.

BS! You think that guy in the first one used steroids? No way! Absolutely no way! All the 'young guys' get ripped and bulked up like this these days because of better nutrition. Really! That's what they seem to say. Those arms are natural... cough cough cough... .. which is absolute BS... but I feel I want to argue with you anyway. I agree, at least with the second guy I would suspect his heart problems are clearly from roid use/abuse.

Well, for all we know Japie could be one of them. If he is, he has been warned. Don't mix steroids and Ivermectin, unless the steroids are horse steroids and the ivermectin to suit

I would go off on my 'old-man anecdotes' about steroids and natural and the clear difference between them, but I don't want to give kiterboy a stiffie.