All fair enough Funky,...

But one springs to mind...

Refusing to answer police questions concerning a certain incident at Metros in Northbridge?

If the guy wants to get off his face then fair enough, but is it really a story worth telling.

I think he is still kidding himself. He can associate with however he wants to, but be prepared to cop the attention if it all turns bad. He can't sell his "explosive tell all story" and leave some of the best parts out.

Turns into a rerun of news headlines otherwise.

Good footy player and certainly knew how to play the game, but he was surrounded by other good footy players.

Obviously someone trying desperately make himself relevant to life after footy. But a doco on his life so far? I think there are others in the game who are more deserving.

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Bit late but anyway..

@ Squidy, despite copping flack from some that have never had to face the decisions you have, thank you for sharing your story. Can't blame you for wanting to remove it and perhaps those using your deleted posts in their quotations need to respect your wishes too.

Hope your kids look more to you than their father for guidance in the future. Good luck.

I wont go into detail , but an extremely sad part of my past , having to deal with an x's previous partner , the horrific things that occured to 2 young boys because of a drug f kkt useless piece of s,,,t(you get my drift) those kids lives were affected terribly!! they unfortunately will never be the same , and that saddens me deeply ,, I tried in vain to stop acces but the doogooders won out .so in answer to your comments about never having to face these types of desicions , it's one fortunately I wont have to face again,
my advice for what it's worth , for people with druggies as partners , and have children with them is to get the hell away from, and keep the kids safe!!!!!.
My only concern would be for the right upbringing for them , not the drugged out fathers want to see them , unless supervised.
rant over.

Hey I agree about protecting the kids Cassa, but everyone's situation is diff and it took guts for Squidy to get out, and also to expose her history.

You don't know all the ins/outs of her relationship and how good at deceit/manipulation her ex may have been. Ultimately since then it sounds as though squidy has done everything she can to remove the idiot from the kids life, so it was harsh to blame her (IMO).

I didn't realise it was your post - so not trying to take a swipe at you BTW, she wanted to remove her personal info (not just an opinion) and I think that should be respected.

getfunky said...

Think it needs to be pointed out that despite causing enormous pain
and heartache for his family and friends (even some of his supporters)
Cousins has never assualted anyone, never glassed his girlfriend, never p!zzed orf leaving a young girl to die in his apartment, never crashed his car, never deficated in a hotel lobby, never pack raped a teenager, never leaked pics of a girl he's been having an affair with, never p!zzed on a shop window, never .. well you get the message.



Good guys made bad

A good doco, a great footy player and a tosser all at the same time, I hope he manages to stay off the wizz, goey, ice and crack. He has a great family and that is one of the most important thisngs about this doco, what drugs do to everyone who cares about you and how you dont realise what drugs are taking away from you!

I applaude him, loved his work rate on the field and when he, Juddy and Kerr were stealing the ball from opposition players for few short years they were fkn awsome.

How many people do you know that are addicts......... More than you realise!

GT

When all is said and done , the tv show was about a crack head has been football player. It will earn him enough cash to smoke crack for the next six months . while he,s working out what to do next. Hopefully not anything in the media where our children will continue to idolize him.

poor relative said...

With drugs he always had a choice.

Can't agree relo - addicts ( which cuzzy is) don't have a choice. They have a psychological and physiological monkey to feed. I hope ben can find NA to go in some way to replace the bonds found in team sport.

Contrition wasn't his strong suit - but he was honest.

Despite all this like any great player I will miss watching him on the field

We take drugs (including alcohol) because:

a) We are a bit down/need a crutch
b) Improve our social skills
c) Explore other states/interesting
d) Just feels (sometimes really) good
e) It's cool
f) drugged state is my preferred reality
f) bored
g) all of the above

?

An aside: this is interesting: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_19
If approved will make California the new Amsterdam.

Feel for you squidy, I know somebody just like you. Has he burnt the car while taking the kids home yet?

Just watched Mathew Newton king hit his fiance in the head and then bang it on the marble floor in the hotel in Rome on the hotels ctv footage - very disturbing stuff. Following was an interview with Bert and Patti having to try to explain their sons actions on TV to a national audience. Pretty similar scenario to what we just saw with Ben Cousins a few nights back. If I remember correctly I think Matthew Newton was also partying with Cuz when he trashed that hotel room in Sydney some time back.

It's pretty stupid to think that these wild-children don't have any choices but to party and destroy themselves and those around them. They have, and exercise, more choices than their family and friends get to have - who are just left to pick up the pieces.

Can't say I have too much sympathy. I'd go further and hope Newton is chucked in prison for what I saw him do.

here's the link: au.news.yahoo.com/

starts around the 1:15min mark

evlPanda said...

poor relative said...

Ben 555 said...
addicts ( which cuzzy is) don't have a choice. They have a psychological and physiological monkey to feed.

Everyone has a choice, he chose to make it a problem.
He could have chosen at any time to accept responsibility and deal with his problem or not even try drugs - he chose not too.
To medicalise his behaviour 'poor addict' removes his responsibility.

I have little sympathy

If you were born as Ben Cousins, had the exact same life experiences, you'd behave exactly the same way. Sometimes I wonder if anybody has a choice about anything. How do you really know you have free choice? We can't judge, at all.

Panda is 100% on the money for mine.

Until you have had a whole football loving state blow steam upya ass, and the peers/temptations he had from an early age, then you can stride around on the high horse as much as you like, but you will never know what YOU would really have done in the same situation.

To suggest you'd be a saint in the same environment is wishful thinking or ignorant bollocks, cause you base your judgement on who you are from your very diff upbringing and environment. Be thankful most of you are copmpletely un-co and haven't the skillz to scratch ya nurries without dropping the ball(s)

Medical condition is 100% justified. He is obviously an addictive personality. No doubt in my mind whatsoever.

Sh!ts me no end that society looks at addiction to alchohol, ciggies etc in a very diff light to other addictions.



PR - remember when you kissed goodbye to your ciggies (you stated once that you truly LOVED them and they were like your mates). Remember how your moods, sleep, eating etc all went haywire. Now imagine (as most druggies experience) being an outcast and having to hide all that and feel shamed instead of peeps patting you on the back and supporting you. Like to see you kick the ciggies with that extra baggage. Then imagine being cut off from ya slippers n guinness too




EDIT: Interesting to the very diff response to Hawthorn's player - who unlike Cuz, actually has been busted internally by the AFL... twice. They have waived his fine etc and are publically supporting him. He was busted with GBH, off his head in a vehicle (keys in the ignition?) and a pipe, yet the cops have not charged him.

Now I'm not suggesting for a minute That Cuz didn't deserve to be booted from the Eagles and suspended from the AFL but remember he never tested positive for drugs by the AFL, so could have potentially sued.

Same for Michael Johnson at Freo. Twice he has actually been busted for possession of illegal drugs in public (again Cuz was never busted with illegal drugs) but got a tap on the wrist and was back playing after 6 weeks.

Cuz has opened people's perception of what drug addiction/abuse is actually about and made the option to support the person viable, and the potential to get back on track more likely for those (and let's not kid ourselves that addiction to grog/drugs etc hasn't been around since day one) that find themselves in the grip of addiction in the future.

No doubt many players and 'normal' folks out there are very thankful for Cuz's fk ups.

Ben 555 said...

poor relative said...
[Everyone has a choice, he chose to make it a problem.
He could have chosen at any time to accept responsibility and deal with his problem or not even try drugs - he chose not too.
To medicalise his behaviour 'poor addict' removes his responsibility.

I have little sympathy

Sorry rello - i cant agree - and when I read your posts I usually agree

Addicts are not resposnible for their USE of drugs once they have started using habitually - they have to do it

Yeah, nah. Ex blaster here, 2x/day. I was really, really wrecked for a while. Like over the edge, sometimes I wonder if I did die and this is just some weird afterlife I'll wake up from soon. Lost friends and a brother.

Then one day I just stopped. Just like that <click>.
I also just stopped smoking one day, after 15 years, because I didn't like them any more.

There is a huge spectrum of types of people.

I even think one issue that recovering addicts have is that they are told how beforehand, many, many times, that they will be f'd for life and all. Placebo effect. A lot of people, most even, grow out of it and are completely fine. I am in no way ignoring the people that don't. They are facts too.

I think Trainspotting was right on the money.



Cousins can do whatever he wants. He is a free individual.

But, whoever employs him can do what they like too. If he is giving them a bad image, in their minds or not, then they too have every right to act accordingly. They are paying him after all.

he has now taken pointy nose gillards job and running our country and loves the greens choof choof

Ben cousins favorite song is Ben Harper burn one down