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Created by japie > 9 months ago, 30 Jan 2025
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D3
WA, 1506 posts
14 Feb 2025 9:59AM
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Yep, the commission has 100 days to find the root cause of chronic disease.

I'm all for promp action, but doesn't seem like much time to get real research done.

Or is it just a Commision where they ask a bunch of people for input and makes a decision from there?


I'm not afraid of doing new things, what RFK Junior and his compatriots have stated for a long time, is a desire to backwards and use old things.

remery
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14 Feb 2025 10:02AM
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D3 said..
What are you hoping he will achieve?


Reintroduction of leeches to deal with all manner of maladies.

remery
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14 Feb 2025 10:23AM
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fangman said..

Just to add to the list, factor in the rather huge leaps in medicine, and consequently we live longer. One hundred years ago, I would reckon fewer people suffered from chronic disease because they were already dead from an acute disease.


100 years ago few people died from chronic disease. They died of old age.

remery
WA, 3709 posts
14 Feb 2025 10:28AM
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There's only one team brother. It's the elites who dish this crap out


that want us to think there's
This story is quite common in my lived experience Froth. I'm saddened to hear it. My brother's account is similar but he only managed on shot.

I do hope Remery and D3 don't also discount your experience outright.

It's most likely the novel mRNA that reprograms cell nucleuses to produce the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein in every cell it enters. In other words, every mRNA shot tells your body to produce poison. Not at all like any vaccine before. All traditional vaccines only stayed in the arm muscle tissue, whereas these new vaccines travel to all parts of the body. This is what caused the inflammation in people's hearts (myo/pericarditis), blood disorders and clots and turbo cancers and an array of neurological and inflammatory responses like yours.

Add to that, the novel nano-technology delivery platform that the mRNA is allegedly packaged into carries it's own problems, being identified in some trials to produce serious inflammation in some test subjects all on its own.

Add to that, it's now been demonstrated by several independent researchers that many Pfizer vaxx vials are contaminated with foreign DNA fragment counts far exceeding the safe limits determined by public health authorities.

Sooo, yeah. Pretty nasty stuff that was never used in a major public health intervention before CONVID.


Would you rather have cancer treatment from an elite doctor or cult members who will pray the disease away?

myscreenname
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14 Feb 2025 10:39AM
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D3 said..
Yep, the commission has 100 days to find the root cause of chronic disease.

I'm all for promp action, but doesn't seem like much time to get real research done.

Or is it just a Commision where they ask a bunch of people for input and makes a decision from there?


I'm not afraid of doing new things, what RFK Junior and his compatriots have stated for a long time, is a desire to backwards and use old things.


Obesity is linked to poor diet and lack of exercise, takes most people a few minutes to figure that out. Maybe trying old ways to fix the problem will be better than the new ways that got America to where it is now.

Executive order sounds like a positive move to me. Let's wait for the findings and what Trump's response is.

D3
WA, 1506 posts
14 Feb 2025 10:44AM
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remery said..

fangman said..

Just to add to the list, factor in the rather huge leaps in medicine, and consequently we live longer. One hundred years ago, I would reckon fewer people suffered from chronic disease because they were already dead from an acute disease.



100 years ago few people died from chronic disease. They died of old age.


I wonder what percentage of the difference age brackets have various chronic diseases?
What was the prevalence of those diseases when they were under 18 versus now?

0 to 5
6 to 11
16 to 21
22 to 31
32 to 43
44 to 53
Etc or something like that, could be different brackets.

remery
WA, 3709 posts
14 Feb 2025 11:01AM
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Secrets of the MMR scare
How the vaccine crisis was meant to make money

BMJ 2011; 342 doi: doi.org/10.1136/bmj.c5258



www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c5258

D3
WA, 1506 posts
14 Feb 2025 12:17PM
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Thanks sublime

Yep, RFK Junior is showing that he's more interested in dismantling rather than building better




Flying Dutchman
WA, 1730 posts
14 Feb 2025 1:38PM
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And to think it wasn't long ago Remery and others were saying Lab Leak was a conspiracy theory or according to Aussie Scientist Professor Eddie Holmes, "The COVID 'lab leak theory' is dead". Now we have Australia's ex Pm in the mix.

Start at 14:00

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
14 Feb 2025 4:56PM
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remery said..

fangman said..

Just to add to the list, factor in the rather huge leaps in medicine, and consequently we live longer. One hundred years ago, I would reckon fewer people suffered from chronic disease because they were already dead from an acute disease.



100 years ago few people died from chronic disease. They died of old age.


Poverty and associated squalor would have had a massive impact on mortality rates.Be interesting to see some statistics on historic rural vs city.

Methuselah lived for 969 years!

myscreenname
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14 Feb 2025 5:37PM
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Flying Dutchman said..
And to think it wasn't long ago Remery and others were saying Lab Leak was a conspiracy theory or according to Aussie Scientist Professor Eddie Holmes, "The COVID 'lab leak theory' is dead". Now we have Australia's ex Pm in the mix.

Start at 14:00


Nothing new here. Did you forget the reason why the Chinese placed tariffs on a range of Australian goods?

Heres a refresher. You live in the past.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia%E2%80%93China_trade_war#:~:text=COVID%2D19%20dispute,-In%20early%202020&text=Following%20this%2C%20China%20started%20imposing,bark%20beetles%20found%20in%20timber.

Flying Dutchman
WA, 1730 posts
14 Feb 2025 8:31PM
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Heres a refresher. You live in the past.


Ah yes, the past.


Froth Goth
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14 Feb 2025 9:51PM
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I remember when covid started my friend owns a pretty significant percentage of those breathing machines and they made her go to some special covid meeting and basicly ?nce all the surgeons and stuff were done talking it was agreed that they should go out into the world and spread the word that covids transmitted thru your **** so we should stop eating our ****. I believe i tried to spread the important message here but you all thought i was lieing.

Still turns out no matter who or where you ask everyone still currently knows or believes that its transmitted by **** so dont eat it. No matter what new developments happened that o?e always stayed rock solid even to this day

remery
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14 Feb 2025 10:59PM
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And to think it wasn't long ago Remery and others were saying Lab Leak was a conspiracy theory or according to Aussie Scientist Professor Eddie Holmes, "The COVID 'lab leak theory' is dead". Now we have Australia's ex Pm in the mix.


I think you will find that I said that a lab leak was low likelihood. DNA studies continue to indicate that the virus was a spillover in a fresh meat market. I have personally visited one of those markets, and I am a scientist who understands, so I can make an educated, personal judgement based on my training, broad experience and understanding of scientific literature. How about you?

It is however, likely that I declared claims that Fauci deliberately released the virus were conspiracy theories. Similarly with the claims that Gates was behind the virus as part of his population control plans.

If you look at current, actual research by real epidemiologists you will find that most agree that spillover is most likely, but still not confirmed because the Chinese government has been unhelpful.

myscreenname
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15 Feb 2025 12:41AM
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Flying Dutchman said..
Ah yes, the past.

Now that we are in the present, what are you going to do?

Lie in a foetal position and get all butt-hurt about all the jabs you had years ago?
Stop eating dim sims?
What?

Flying Dutchman
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15 Feb 2025 12:47AM
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remery said..
I think you will find that I said that a lab leak was low likelihood.

You must have changed your point of view sometime after November 2023.

'THE CONSPIRACY CHART' you posted in November 2023 has 'COVID-19 made in lab' in the 'SCIENCE DENIAL' section and is claimed to be, "DANGEROUS TO YOURSELF AND OTHERS".




D3
WA, 1506 posts
15 Feb 2025 8:18AM
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Good one FD, you got him right in the memes!

As to "science denial" being dangerous?

Not sure why people don't vaccinate their kids, I'm told there are many reasons, but a majority of them are because they no longer trust vaccines are safe because people like RFK Junior say they're not.

Maybe they don't actually believe him, but there's enough doubt in their mind now that they don't see the benefit's of vaccination as being worth the perceived risk of vaccines?

For example, why bother to vaccinate your kids against measles when the USA was declared measles free in 2000?


And the answer is: Now there are multiple outbreaks of measles across several states in the USA. Almost exclusively in unvaccinated populations.
People are now having to deal with the fact their kids are suffering life threatening infections, because they believed the vaccine would be more dangerous.

FormulaNova
WA, 15086 posts
15 Feb 2025 8:26AM
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"made in a lab' versus "leaked from a lab"?

Would a scientist see the difference between those statements? Would a person desperate for validation see the difference?

Me, I suspect that it was in a lab and they had an accidental leak. Did they make it there or find it in the wild? I have no opinion on that.

Does Remery agree with me? Who knows, we are different people with different ideas.

D3
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15 Feb 2025 8:30AM
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Be interesting to see what he is going to do different now that funding for research facilities has been cut by the doges.

Will he look at the other countries around the world that are healthier and maybe try emulate them or take on some of their policies that could fit well with in the USS framework?

D3
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15 Feb 2025 8:31AM
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Does Remery agree with me? Who knows, we are different people with different ideas.


My Mind Is Blown!!!

Hilarious you actually have to point this out

Sublime
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15 Feb 2025 9:07AM
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Thanks sublime

Yep, RFK Junior is showing that he's more interested in dismantling rather than building better






First you have to clear out the **** before you can build back better make it great again !

D3
WA, 1506 posts
15 Feb 2025 9:26AM
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First you need a plan of what you want to achieve.

If he starts cutting programs and firing people without also announcing how his plan, in detail, on what he's going to do better?

Then he's just taking action to appease his fans, not genuinely taking action to improve the health of all Americans.

I'm seriously hoping that his time as head of the HHS will result in a net improvement in Americans health.

But time will tell, and he's already hamstrung by doges funding cuts

FormulaNova
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15 Feb 2025 9:31AM
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FormulaNova said..

Does Remery agree with me? Who knows, we are different people with different ideas.




My Mind Is Blown!!!

Hilarious you actually have to point this out



I worry that FD is conflating (is that the right word?) different opinions here.

One thing about CTers is that they do seem to generally believe the same things.... What is it with that?

UncleBob
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15 Feb 2025 3:09PM
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D3 said..
What are you hoping he will achieve?




Reintroduction of leeches to deal with all manner of maladies.



What, more mindless politicians??
Aren't there more than enough out there sucking the life out of the general populace already.

Froth Goth
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15 Feb 2025 10:21PM
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As someone whose lived experience was being made in a lab i think your all hitler

(Which is precisely why i spend so much time.here studying what yall be saying)

cammd
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17 Feb 2025 10:51AM
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japie said..
I just knew right from the outset that a Trump win was simply going to be a change of tack.


Did you see JD Vance's speech at the conference in Munich, that's not more of the same dressed up to look different. I think if your theories about globalists and central banks are true then the Trump Administration are upsetting the agenda.

Froth Goth
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17 Feb 2025 8:56AM
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Would you rather have cancer treatment from an elite doctor or cult members who will pray the disease away? used in a major public health intervention before CONVID.







Dude that's a no brainer

If a cult could pray it away then obviously that's the best method and probably way cheaper

Regular doctors cost a fortune an elite one would cost even more

In all seriousness tho fructose like changes our hormones remove that and these sexy manatees hanging around McDonald's and KFC will return to the sea once more

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Soo yea... gotta get off the booze and processed foods is pretty much common knowledge but it's interesting to learn exactly WHY and how it interacts with all your little systems

How healthy is juicing?? You know removing all that fibre glass of OJ and a few pop tarts for breakfast whys America fat


Rfk Jr could start rehab facility's but for food etc kicking sugar ain't easy just watch what happens to all the tribes when they get they're hands on these American diets that png big rooster gets robbed second a riot breaks out everytime

remery
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17 Feb 2025 8:52PM
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18 Feb 2025 11:32AM
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