Saying Australians are racist who say Australians are racist is racist.

GRunner said...
Just like Scottie has shown. Racism is in the eye of the beholder (I'm happy. To say 'x' but I'd never say 'y')

My West Indian mate in London (he was born & bred n London like most of us) told me (in his opinion) Paki was just as offensive as nigger. Yet here in Aus it appears perfectly acceptable to call the cricket team Paki's on the radio (5 years ago now, not sure if we have evolved since then).

I've also et a few Brits that do not appreciate the term Pom.

IMO Australia is the most racist place I have ever been. But I do live in Qld, (bless 'em)

BTW a West Indian is not a Paki. He's a Windy. Pakistanis are Pakis, Kiwis are well just Kiwis, poms are poms. If you're speaking Cricket that is. Sepppos are Seppos and speak crap hence the septic tank term. poms just whinge about everything and still regret sending the bad people to the best place while they stayed on a little, cold island that rains too much.

Yes Australia is a racist country, that's why indeed people from all over the world are busting their a$$ to get here.

There are a lot of things still rough and rugged about this country, I circumnavigated Europe a couple of months ago and the best advice I got was to tell people straight up I was Aussie not Roast Beef. Everyone I met over there had either been and loved or could not wait to get to Australia. Even if they did think our wine was crap.

We are Aussies and have so much to be proud of, sure there are gooses but the Aussie good hearted Larrikin still exists and of all the places I have been it is the best place on this planet. Names are names and we have them for everyone. I for one do not think the erosion of the Aussie culture to not offend others ridiculous sensitivities is good for this country. We are what we are I love it.

"Paki" is racist when used by poms as they use it to refer to anyone brown, like Pakistani, West Indian, Sril Lankan etc. So thus it is derogatory but surely at the very lower end of the scale.

However when we (rarely) use it in Australia, yes we are referring to Pakistani persons so is it racist? I think not. They call us Aussie - is that offensive????

But - "I drive a Jap car" is OK
"He is a Jap" may not be OK, some ppl would frown upon it a bit.
"They are Nips" would be frowned upon by more people.
But really Paki is short for Pakistani, Jap is short for Japanese, and Nip short for Nippon so one is NOT "worse" than the other, yet it IS perceived as such.

Thus INTENT should be the key. In this thread, "chow" was not intended to be racist..... same as "Coldplay are a sh!t Pommie band" is not racist (surely).

Unfortunately the E.O Act says INTENT is irrelevant and effect is the key, and the more leftie types seem to agree.

Sad, sad world this is becoming.

chrispychru said...

GRunner said...
Just like Scottie has shown. Racism is in the eye of the beholder (I'm happy. To say 'x' but I'd never say 'y')

My West Indian mate in London (he was born & bred n London like most of us) told me (in his opinion) Paki was just as offensive as nigger. Yet here in Aus it appears perfectly acceptable to call the cricket team Paki's on the radio (5 years ago now, not sure if we have evolved since then).

I've also et a few Brits that do not appreciate the term Pom.

IMO Australia is the most racist place I have ever been. But I do live in Qld, (bless 'em)

you are taking the piss now....how about people integrate within the community they are living and not segregate themselves away forming little ethnic ghettos which then has the effect of a us and them mentality.

me im a aussie born wog growing up with a multitude of different cultures. some off my friends parents would not even talk to me and other close friends as we were not from their race,it took years before they got over the fact we were not from the same place....**** some of you people are delusional...i have been in that many fights growing up because was not one off them, being teased and bullied. why, because i was a aussie.

i will say it again... i work..i am a aussie who loves the ladies and im am the most discriminated person in this country

now i could rant on about the company i work for. these people will not even shake my hand as i am not a ?. aussies racist...go **** yourselves you deluded do gooders. this **** is not even a debate anymore..its just ****ed up and should not even be on here.

have a great day all

Well I shook ya hand , drank much piss with you , kipped on your boards , love your Missus (hello Ondrea) like a sister & young Michael is a good kid I think with good manners.... I call you a brother and you're probably i think more Ozzie than me mate

edit: scotty come back will ya maaaaaate

^^^^

Best toilet wall humour I ever seen was at my Uni.

Above the toilet roll holder it said: 'Arts degrees, please take one'

CMC, I always wondered what those arts and science degrees are all about.
Pup, 6 cans of Emu Lager on the way.

Political correctness has a lot to answer for. It conjures insults out of nothing. It creates the illusion of bigotry so we can all get offended. It propagates racism for dummies so you don't have to exercise a neuron to spot an insult so insults emerge where none exist.

Although honesty is a little more difficult I'd like to see a reversion to first principles. The test for racism in a comment should be two fold. It must be racial and it must be pejorative. So "chow" in the title is not of itself racist. In another context it might be. It's just politically incorrect. I'd go so far as to say that any Asian who was offended by the use of "chow" in the title is a victim of political correctness not racism. And the empathic and reasonable respondents that get offended on their behalf are part of the problem.

chrispychru said...
go **** yourselves you deluded do gooders. this **** is not even a debate anymore..its just ****ed up and should not even be on here.

^^^^like that? Makes lots of sense.

Oh and Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah feeling better now?

This makes sense.

whats so bad about our australian version of racism anyway? it's perfectly natural human behaviour entrenched in our makeup imho

not all dogs want to eat cats but cats are naturally wary of dogs.

if a nigerian rings you you would be wise to suspect a scam

If you've got an asian friend i bet he likes rice!

if you pull some hot african chick that now lives in australia you might wann be real carefull about aids.

you might not want to let your catholic priest babysit your kids

watch those dark kids that are near your car...

generalisations and labelling are a part of our natural instincts. it's when you let them rule you i guess it's bad. i like being racist. it's refreshingly honest

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

^^^^^throwing the dummy,me?how? you took one part off my post and tried to use it in a way to make yourself feel better. its do gooders like you who are changing this country for the worse. what i posted is a fact about growing up in a melting pot of culture,where other races were the ones who do not have tolerance towards others. so i think you should apply for a job on today tonight or such,as they like manipulating things in order to discredit others, and justify their reasons no matter how wrong they are.

kiteboy dave said...
^^^ not really. I'm not off in a corner sooking and I'm not throwing the dummy like crispy above. I'm still here, I'm still calm, and I still haven't resorted to name calling when I can't muster any real argument to justify my poor taste posts.

Its funny that you think that you have won.

You never win in here, you look stupider than when you started.

chrispychru said...
what i posted is a fact about growing up in a melting pot of culture,where other races were the ones who do not have tolerance towards others.

Like the way half of Chatwood would almost die if their child married an Australian?

Ask an immigrant what they think of other immigrants. We seem to be importing racism.

kiteboy dave said...
^^^ not really. I'm not off in a corner sooking and I'm not throwing the dummy like crispy above. I'm still here, I'm still calm, and I still haven't resorted to name calling when I can't muster any real argument to justify my poor taste posts.