Select to expand quotePcdefender said..
Will 2023 be a "Tsunami of Regret"? Dr. Sherri Tenpenny Predicts the Worst is Yet to Come with the Fallout from the COVID Shots
40 or so doctors give their testimony.
Doctors Around the World Issue Dire WARNING: DO NOT GET THE COVID VACCINE!! (bitchute.com)
Teen athlete Cormick Scanlan dies after stroke caused by rare disorder (nypost.com)
Lions don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep 
twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1608207261599698944?s=20&t=xietgpQOwuluLAmFEH-t1A
Look, I'm pretty keen to jump on board with anyone that realises the danger of the covax but not Tenpenny, she is a plain as day old style anti vaxxer, which would probably be ok if we'd all evolved perfectly but we didn't, since the advent of the Haber press and before there's been mineral imbalances, vitamin deficiencies and inhibited gene expression.
Thanks for those that have quoted macro, being that he won't allow me to view the drivel he posts,( which by the way has vastly improved my seabreeze experience ), I once again have to marvel at the ignorance and "intelligence" 
so readily displayed, interspersed with insults and innuendo.
Once again, thank you.
Select to expand quotePcdefender said..
Doctors Around the World Issue Dire WARNING: DO NOT GET THE COVID VACCINE!!
Yeah, I sort of agree.
I have had Covid for at least three days (maybe 4 or 5 because I ran out of tests) according to the tests and I just don't believe it. I feel like I am pretty much fine, yet supposedly I have Covid. It's a conspiracy! A conspiracy to keep me home and a bit bored.
If I didn't have the vaccines I might be sitting here coughing up my lungs or suffering headaches, but nope, not yet.
Of course, those of a logical mind will recognise that there is no way to know if a vaccine free me would behave any differently so its a difficult argument.
But to be serious for a moment, I am feeling a quiet unease that the symptoms have been so mild. It has taken me this long to catch Covid and now it appears to be a non-event.
Select to expand quotepsychojoe said..Pcdefender said..
Will 2023 be a "Tsunami of Regret"? Dr. Sherri Tenpenny Predicts the Worst is Yet to Come with the Fallout from the COVID Shots
40 or so doctors give their testimony.
Doctors Around the World Issue Dire WARNING: DO NOT GET THE COVID VACCINE!! (bitchute.com)
Teen athlete Cormick Scanlan dies after stroke caused by rare disorder (nypost.com)
Lions don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep
twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1608207261599698944?s=20&t=xietgpQOwuluLAmFEH-t1A
Look, I'm pretty keen to jump on board with anyone that realises the danger of the covax but not Tenpenny, she is a plain as day old style anti vaxxer, which would probably be ok if we'd all evolved perfectly but we didn't, since the advent of the Haber press and before there's been mineral imbalances, vitamin deficiencies and inhibited gene expression.
Have a read of "The Real Anthony Fauci".
I've been following Mike Yeadon since the outset of this madness. His metamorphosis from accomplished achiever at Pfizer to ardent critic of the whole industry sheds a different light on Tenpenny.
Select to expand quoteremery said..
The most important part is in the first sentence, "mRNA vaccines are efficient preventive measures to combat the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic. High levels of neutralizing SARS-CoV-2-antibodies are an important component of vaccine-induced immunity."
That's bait, isn't it?
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
If I didn't have the vaccines
When was your last one?
Australian Senator Takes Hard Stand Against COVID Jabs (mercola.com)
Australia has logged 140,000 COVID jab injuries - more than all the injuries reported from vaccines since 1971 - yet the Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) refuses to look at or acknowledge the safety signal. Chief health officers also admit not reading key science documents that detail COVID jab hazards
This is with a one to ten percent of all harm being reported.
Times the 140K by at least nine times.
Please do the arithmetic.
Lest we never forget
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..myscreenname said..
Another reason the COVID lab leak theory is not supported is that the virus was first identified in Wuhan, China, which is a city with a large market where live animals are sold.
Hmmm.... so a reason the lab leak theory is not supported is because it was first identified in a place called Wuhan.
Is that the same Wuhan where the Wuhan Institute of Virology is or is that a different Wuhan?
Is this the same Wuhan Institute of Virology that Fauci was illegally funding gain of function research into novel coronavirus' and told us it wasn't a lab leak so stop looking at his lab
Is this the same Wuhan lab the the WHO investigated for the lab leak. And after only sitting down for a nice dinner with Chinese officials, not investigating the lab or what research was going on, told the world the lab leak theory is not true.
Fauci and WHO are the experts, gotta trust the experts
Select to expand quotePcdefender said..
Australian Senator Takes Hard Stand Against COVID Jabs (mercola.com)
Australia has logged 140,000 COVID jab injuries - more than all the injuries reported from vaccines since 1971 - yet the Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) refuses to look at or acknowledge the safety signal. Chief health officers also admit not reading key science documents that detail COVID jab hazards
This is with a one to ten percent of all harm being reported.
Times the 140K by at least nine times.
Please do the arithmetic.
Lest we never forget
What does 'lest we never forget' mean? Are you mixing things up? You intend to avoid to never forget? I.e. you intend to forget? That's just dumb.
Covid Jab injuries? What does that include? People that have had minor swelling at the injection site, all the way up to death? A huge range. How many of those were serious or just normal outcomes from injections?
Let me see... 140,000 x 9 = 1.26M . A number you have arrived at by taking a number and multiplying it by some arbitrary percentage dreamed up that may be too high or too low. To arrive at a number that represents what?
Never before have we had so many people injected with vaccines in such a short period of time, so is it any surprise that people are getting some sort of reaction?
Your immune system should react to a vaccine. Some people have a minor reaction, some people have a major reaction. Most of them are not harmful and are normal responses. So what does that mean of your 1.26M jab injuries? Well, nothing really.
Select to expand quoteTonyAbbott said..Flying Dutchman said..myscreenname said..
Another reason the COVID lab leak theory is not supported is that the virus was first identified in Wuhan, China, which is a city with a large market where live animals are sold.
Hmmm.... so a reason the lab leak theory is not supported is because it was first identified in a place called Wuhan.
Is that the same Wuhan where the Wuhan Institute of Virology is or is that a different Wuhan?
Is this the same Wuhan Institute of Virology that Fauci was illegally funding gain of function research into novel coronavirus' and told us it wasn't a lab leak so stop looking at his lab
Is this the same Wuhan lab the the WHO investigated for the lab leak. And after only sitting down for a nice dinner with Chinese officials, not investigating the lab or what research was going on, told the world the lab leak theory is not true.
Fauci and WHO are the experts, gotta trust the experts
Oh dear. A person using AI to pretend to be a person replying to a forum topic, now has a reply to a reply.
We could have a complete forum based on AI talking to itself. We could generate 'outrage' automatically.
Are you guys not taking this seriously??
www.news.com.au/sport/more-sports/liver-king-sued-for-a-whopping-40-million-over-steroid-drama/news-story/5fca635ae2bfb0656487f82efb13c2bb
Poor old Liver King made one mistake and took $9k worth of HGH a month and now the idiots that believed it was all natural are trying to sue him. Of course in this world its not illegal to be gullible and he does seem to have lied.
For future reference to anybody, you don't get a body shape like that naturally, no matter whether you are eating macro-nutrients, raw liver, or even KFC Zingers. Are people really this stupid?
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
Are you guys not taking this seriously??
Poor old Liver King made one mistake and took $9k worth of HGH a month and now the idiots that believed it was all natural are trying to sue him. Of course in this world its not illegal to be gullible and he does seem to have lied.
For future reference to anybody, you don't get a body shape like that naturally, no matter whether you are eating macro-nutrients, raw liver, or even KFC Zingers. Are people really this stupid?
I once ate $9K of KFC zingers in a month and can attest that it gave me abs of steel. Hang on, scratch that, I think it was popcorn chicken with plenty of those little salt and pepper packets shaken in.
I thought the liver king had silicone implants in his abs
Has anyone ever seen him do a single sit-up...
Interesting how some views a year ago on this forum have not manifested a year later in NSW hospitals.
29th December 2021
15th December 2022
Hospitalisations/ICU numbers NSW
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..
Interesting how some views a year ago on this forum have not manifested a year later in NSW hospitals.
29th December 2021
15th December 2022
Hospitalisations/ICU numbers NSW
What is the percentage of unvaccinated in NSW?
do they eat liver?
There were 75 COVID-19 deaths reported this week. Of these, 15 (20%) had not received three doses of vaccine. Two deaths were in people aged under 65 years. Deaths may not have occurred in the week in which they were reported.
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..
Interesting how some views a year ago on this forum have not manifested a year later in NSW hospitals.
29th December 2021
15th December 2022
Hospitalisations/ICU numbers NSW
Okay, I have time to bite.
Was this a forecast or an observation? My take on it was it was an observation and not a forecast of the future, whether it is a year later or 20 years later. So it's not actually 'some views a year ago', it is a snapshot of the cases in ICU at that time. If someone had said "in a year the rates will reflect this" I will eat my words.
Clearly we need to consider the affect of the vaccines not being targetted towards Omicron, which will ultimately lead to less protection for the vaccinated unless there is a new booster specifically for Omicron.
Plus, what are the current 2022 rates of vaccination and how does this map across different age demographics? Are we seeing older people being represented more in ICU at the moment?
Is this sort of argument going to ultimately end in someone saying in 5 years that they 'didn't know what all the fuss was about as Covid is now just as common as the cold'? Clearly things change with time.
Select to expand quotehilly said..
What is the percentage of unvaccinated in NSW?
do they eat liver?
There were 75 COVID-19 deaths reported this week. Of these, 15 (20%) had not received three doses of vaccine. Two deaths were in people aged under 65 years. Deaths may not have occurred in the week in which they were reported.
It's the liver thing!
Yep, as we talked about before, how do you qualify these numbers without seeing the unvaxxed proportion of the population against the presentations in ICU?
These figures are impossible to really analyse that way as the 'unknown' grouping could be 100% 4 times vaxxed or 100% unvaxxed or anything inbetween.
If we are to assume that the unknown are all unvaxxed, would this have proved that they are disproportionately represented in ICU?
If we are to assume that the unknown are all quad vaxxed would this prove that the vaccinated are not protected at all and the unvaxxed are clearly better off? This would be very unlikely as you would assume that worst case the unvaxxed are equal to the 4 times vaxxed if you assume that the vaccinations are ineffective.
Select to expand quotehilly said..
What is the percentage of unvaccinated in NSW?
There were 75 COVID-19 deaths reported this week. Of these, 15 (20%) had not received three doses of vaccine. Two deaths were in people aged under 65 years. Deaths may not have occurred in the week in which they were reported.
29.5% of people over 16 have had 2 doses or less in NSW.
www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/vaccination-numbers-and-statistics
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
Was this a forecast or an observation? My take on it was it was an observation and not a forecast of the future, whether it is a year later or 20 years later. So it's not actually 'some views a year ago', it is a snapshot of the cases in ICU at that time. If someone had said "in a year the rates will reflect this" I will eat my words.
Clearly we need to consider the affect of the vaccines not being targetted towards Omicron, which will ultimately lead to less protection for the vaccinated unless there is a new booster specifically for Omicron.
Plus, what are the current 2022 rates of vaccination and how does this map across different age demographics? Are we seeing older people being represented more in ICU at the moment?
Is this sort of argument going to ultimately end in someone saying in 5 years that they 'didn't know what all the fuss was about as Covid is now just as common as the cold'? Clearly things change with time.
It was an observation at the time.
1 in 800... at what point does the harm outweigh the benefit?
It seems 97.3% of those 16 and over have at least 1 dose in NSW, which suggests that 2.7% don't have any vaccinations against Covid.
This seems to be 6,315,106 people vaccinated meaning the total pool of people were 6,490,345 people. This leaves 175,239 people unvaccinated in NSW.
So, if there are 606 total people in ICU with at least one vaccination. 1 with no vaccination. The unknowns can't be qualified so we will ignore them.
What is 606 / 6,315,106 ?
What is 1 / 175,239 ?
Really roughly this means that the vaccinated have a 1 in 10 thousand chance of showing up in ICU. The unvaxxed have a 1 in 175 thousand chance of showing up in ICU. Suggesting the unvaxxed are better off.
What does this prove? Nothing. The data doesn't have enough accuracy to prove anything. The unvaxxed versus vaxxed is not known due to the 'unknown' category. The age demographics are unknown as this skews the results.
If I were to go one way and assume the unknown are all unvaxxed, would that give 187 / 175,239 which is about 1 in 1 thousand.
Does this mean that the unvaxxed are 10 times more likely to end up in ICU? Again, 'no', as the data doesn't give us enough detail.
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..FormulaNova said..
Was this a forecast or an observation? My take on it was it was an observation and not a forecast of the future, whether it is a year later or 20 years later. So it's not actually 'some views a year ago', it is a snapshot of the cases in ICU at that time. If someone had said "in a year the rates will reflect this" I will eat my words.
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It was an observation at the time.
1 in 800... at what point does the harm outweigh the benefit?
Where did you pull your 1 in 800 number from? If its from your pasted video, don't assume that I (other people?) will watch it first to get the context.
(the guy in the video says it is the last day of 2022, and it is indeed the last day of 2022. Are you on a feed for this stuff or something in case you miss out on it?)
If it is from the video, what is the number about? 1 death in 800? Surely not. 1 in 800 reporting an adverse reaction? If so, what is the level of reaction? Discomfort? Swelling? Arm fell off?
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
It seems 97.3% of those 16 and over have at least 1 dose in NSW, which suggests that 2.7% don't have any vaccinations against Covid.
This seems to be 6,315,106 people vaccinated meaning the total pool of people were 6,490,345 people. This leaves 175,239 people unvaccinated in NSW.
So, if there are 606 total people in ICU with at least one vaccination. 1 with no vaccination. The unknowns can't be qualified so we will ignore them.
What is 606 / 6,315,106 ?
What is 1 / 175,239 ?
Really roughly this means that the vaccinated have a 1 in 10 thousand chance of showing up in ICU. The unvaxxed have a 1 in 175 thousand chance of showing up in ICU. Suggesting the unvaxxed are better off.
What does this prove? Nothing. The data doesn't have enough accuracy to prove anything. The unvaxxed versus vaxxed is not known due to the 'unknown' category. The age demographics are unknown as this skews the results.
If I were to go one way and assume the unknown are all unvaxxed, would that give 187 / 175,239 which is about 1 in 1 thousand.
Does this mean that the unvaxxed are 10 times more likely to end up in ICU? Again, 'no', as the data doesn't give us enough detail.
Let's not split hairs here and just say the vax doesn't do much to keep you out of hospital.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
Where did you pull your 1 in 800 number from?
Watch the video if you want to be educated.
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..
Let's not split hairs here and just say the vax doesn't do much to keep you out of hospital.
Really? You are going off in that direction? I don't think 'splitting hairs' is even close. I am a bit surprised that you don't follow.
I thought an impartial person would say "the data doesn't tell us enough" Period. That is it. You could manufacture the results to say that the unvaxxed are 10 times as likely to end up in ICU. But it's BS. You could manufacture the results to say that the unvaxxed are 20 times less likely to end up in ICU. But it's also BS.
The data you have provided does not support anything important as there is not enough detail. The 'unknown' group means that the information is effectively useless for showing vaxxed versus unvaxxed presentations in ICU.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
The data you have provided does not support anything important as there is not enough detail.
You're right, we haven't even accounted for the 1 in 800 serious vax injuries as well.
Select to expand quotehilly said..
There were 75 COVID-19 deaths reported this week. Of these, 15 (20%) had not received three doses of vaccine. Two deaths were in people aged under 65 years. Deaths may not have occurred in the week in which they were reported.
Always important to remember that being recorded as COVID-death doesn't mean that you died from COVID. According to the official definition, you may have simply tested positive to COVID prior to your death. The logic for the government doing this is simple enough...it removes the complication of having to decide whether COVID was the cause of death which in many cases could be very subjective, but it does mean comparisons of recorded COVID deaths to vaccine injuries is a rather skewed comparison.
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..
Watch the video if you want to be educated.
Read a peer-reviewed journal if you actually want to be educated.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
1 in 800 reporting an adverse reaction? If so, what is the level of reaction? Discomfort? Swelling? Arm fell off?
This adverse reaction.
Source: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9428332/
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..FormulaNova said..
The data you have provided does not support anything important as there is not enough detail.
You're right, we haven't even accounted for the 1 in 800 serious vax injuries as well.
Sure. What is the outcome that we are looking for? I thought you were just pondering on how the stats someone reported on a year ago are seemingly not occurring right now.
"Vaccine is bad, no vaccine is good"? Sure. Okay. We can worry about what 'good' means some other time.
I was sort of confused though a few days ago when someone on the forum said that the virus should have been left to run its natural course and to let all the millions of people die, as has happened many times throughout history.
If that was a person's perspective, how would they compare vaccine injuries against this? I mean, vaccine injuries are a bad thing. No question. I would be pretty damn angry if it were me. But if a third party were to compare the vaccine injurie numbers against millions of dead, what side would be judged the most favorable?
It seemed like a stupid point this person tried to make, but I think they didn't think it through too much and were just trying to reinforce their own point of view.
It does make this sort of discussion stupid though. We can never know what would have happened if there were no vaccines, so we are left only judging it against what has resulted and compare it against normal life before Covid.
