Immunisation for children

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gibberjoe
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3 Dec 2011 8:32am

one of the best vacs is mothers milk...doggy knows where this comes from....

another good way to vacinate is to choose a blood type combatiable partner

to bonk with before an infant is on the way ..... partners, intended, wives,

husbands should be made to undergo testing before being allowed to procreate.

this would save a lot of kids from damage by inconsiderate parenting
petermac33
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3 Dec 2011 7:48am
MMR vaccine.....human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue).


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vaccine_ingredients
FlySurfer
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3 Dec 2011 11:44am
petermac33 said...

MMR vaccine.....human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vaccine_ingredients


Peter remove the tin foil hat... Formaldehyde, Thimerosal, Triton X-100, Polyoxyethylene 9-10 Nonyl Phenol, Chicken kidney

Are all good for you... I grew up on that stuff!
Common y'all go down to your GP and get your dose.
wormy
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3 Dec 2011 11:02am

Bento
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3 Dec 2011 3:27pm
good video Wormy to get people back on track

the simple answer is that vaccines save lives

you make the decision for your child

dont make the wrong one





petermac33
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3 Dec 2011 3:51pm
From the people i've met,there is no correlation between taking the flu vaccine and protection from the flu.

none,none, none.

Remember reading in editorial column of Good Medicine magazine years ago at Vic.Park library.

'looking at the pro's and cons of vaccines,i recommend my readers to NOT take any vaccine.'

In same magazine, Australian study about that lockjaw disease,showing again No correlation between taking the vaccine and protection from lockjaw.

The idea that this witches brew of ingredients can be directly injected into the body,can then somehow,miraculously prevent these diseases as claimed....shows how effectively we have been taught to believe!!!

Russell Blaylock,the chemical dumbing down of society good video to watch.

poor relative
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3 Dec 2011 3:59pm
I get a flu jab every year without fail for the past 7 years.
As a result i never get laid out with colds.

Funnily enough i missed our jabber of goodness this year and lo and behold i got man flu. F*cked for a couple of weeks i was.

Having travelled and seen first hand the suffering that these prevntable diseases cause i would go a needle every time as would my wife and my child.
It sh!ts me that there isn't a stronger drive to give these vaccines to the poorer countries who essentially need them more than us.

My take on the whole vaccine thing - well i reckon that vaccines were one of the most fantastic advances in medical science this last centuary. this is evidenced by the fact we rarely see any of these terrible diseases in our comfortable western world.
gibberjoe
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3 Dec 2011 6:43pm

PM33.....you must meet with the straingest people

Al that i meet are directly opposite...........
petermac33
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3 Dec 2011 4:15pm
Few years back my friend went through stage where he tried to wake his friends up about aspartame.

Hardly got passed go.

So now, if they ignore the evidence,he encourages them to drink up more artifically sweetened drinks,so that they can reduce their calories and remain slim.

Never mind aspertame has been linked in nearly every study to weight gain.
poor relative
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3 Dec 2011 4:24pm
You should become a preacher petermac33
petermac33
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3 Dec 2011 4:31pm
poor relative----you should take the MMR vaccine,nothing wrong with a bit of cannilbilism between friends.



human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue).


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vaccine_ingredients
saltiest1
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4 Dec 2011 4:32am
^^ well at least one loss of life can save another.
FormulaNova
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4 Dec 2011 6:26am
petermac33 said...

poor relative----you should take the MMR vaccine,nothing wrong with a bit of cannilbilism between friends.



human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue).


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vaccine_ingredients


Yeah, and if you ever have any serious injury poor relative, make sure you don't take any of that second hand blood stuff! It's cannibalism!

Blood transfusion have never saved anyone...

Petermac, did you read all of the Wiki article? I for instance, I think the following is a bit more important:

"Today, the incidence of measles has fallen to less than 1% of people under the age of 30 in countries with routine childhood vaccination"
petermac33
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4 Dec 2011 6:43am
Healthy food prevents disease,not vaccines.

Were we having all these diseases before vaccines were introduced?

Suspicious,you bet.

Putting animal tissue in vaccines, do we know the effect they have on human DNA?

the dosage of mercury in the children's vaccine is the exact same as the adult vaccine!

And they give infants mercury laden Hepatitis B shots, AT BIRTH






saltiest1
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4 Dec 2011 10:23am
yeah healthy food is important. it just doesnt stop a person getting nasty diseases.
my naturopath ticked every box you could think of for her little boy - he got cancer at about 6 years of age.
my sister had a healthy diet. didnt stop her contracting a nasty contagen either back in the late 60s.
as i mentioned before, my cousin got polio and he wasnt imunised.
mr 33, while i enjoy the debates you spark, they often dont seem to stand up to argument. only problem is you dont realise this.
one might say the blinkers of the masses have become the pathogen which attached themselves to your focal view, only in the other direction.
thanks for keeping things lively.
FormulaNova
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4 Dec 2011 7:51am
petermac33 said...

Healthy food prevents disease,not vaccines.


What is "healthy food"? Going off on a tangent, I always have a problem with this. Why do you consider something healthy and something else not healthy? Meat with a lot of fat is healthy, but not in a modern diet where you get too much. I am guessing that 200,000 years ago fat was one of the healthiest things you could eat.

Back then, a lot of diseases didn't exist because you probably only lived into your twenties. Groups of humans were probably not living as closely together as they do now, and in far smaller numbers, so a lot of diseases could not evolve as they just weren't able to be sustain due to lack of carriers.

How do you know that "healthy food' prevents disease? Have there been any studies? What type of healthy food? What level/percentage of healthy food?

Were we having all these diseases before vaccines were introduced?

Yes of course we were. What is your point?

Suspicious,you bet.

Putting animal tissue in vaccines, do we know the effect they have on human DNA?


Animals seem to have this great method of being able to identify what is a foreign body and what isn't, and expelling or coating something that is foreign. It has kept animals alive for what must be millions/billions of years.


the dosage of mercury in the children's vaccine is the exact same as the adult vaccine!


Are you suggesting that they should put extra mercury in an adults dose just to make people think it is required? Is mercury a preservative with these vaccines? If so, why would the adult dose need more preservative?


And they give infants mercury laden Hepatitis B shots, AT BIRTH


Hepatitis shots? Is the point about the mercury or something else?



saltiest1
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4 Dec 2011 11:05am
dont go in the ocean petermac, theres mercury in there too! and lead, gold, silver, iron, cadmium etc etc...
BUT WAIT!!! they are in safe levels!
saltiest1
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4 Dec 2011 11:07am
its like saying radiation is bad for you when everything is radioactive.
FlySurfer
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4 Dec 2011 11:11am
I give blood, but I reckon I still owe them around 5 pints
petermac33
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4 Dec 2011 4:28pm
If they can convince the majority of the masses that this witches brew of ingredients can be directly injected into the body,and then can prevent [NOT CAUSE] disease,then well, they got us!

George Carlin hit the nail on the head in his American dream vid.

'beating us over the head all day telling us what to beLIEve.'

Referring of course to the corporate media.[owned and controlled by the same owners who own big pharma]

And before i forget,were you to be bitten by the most venomous snake in the world,you would struggle to survive.

Now,swallow the exact same amount of venom,bet your sickness would be negligible in comparison.

Point being direct injection of harmful ingredients is much more dangerous.

log man
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4 Dec 2011 11:29pm
petermac33 said...

If they can convince the majority of the masses that this witches brew of ingredients can be directly injected into the body,and then can prevent [NOT CAUSE] disease,then well, they got us!

George Carlin hit the nail on the head in his American dream vid.

'beating us over the head all day telling us what to beLIEve.'

Referring of course to the corporate media.[owned and controlled by the same owners who own big pharma]

And before i forget,were you to be bitten by the most venomous snake in the world,you would struggle to survive.

Now,swallow the exact same amount of venom,bet your sickness would be negligible in comparison.

Point being direct injection of harmful ingredients is much more dangerous.



This must be heaven for you Peter
saltiest1
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5 Dec 2011 7:30am
petermac33 said...


And before i forget,were you to be bitten by the most venomous snake in the world,you would struggle to survive.

Now,swallow the exact same amount of venom,bet your sickness would be negligible in comparison.

Point being direct injection of harmful ingredients is much more dangerous.







i think you need to do your homework on this one. if i drink water im ok, if i inject it im stuffed. (although if i drink too much id die as well).
keep in mind the anti venom is derived from animal product (toxin) so im sure you wont be putting that into your system anyway.
petermac33
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5 Dec 2011 5:23am
it gets down to psychology in the end,the evidence against vaccines is so overwhelming it doesn't even require debate.

saltiest,formulanova you both are [too] trusting souls and simply can't believe that they would commit such a fraud,despite the obvious motivation being there.

Life would be a bore if everybody could figure out the truth like me.

SomeOtherGuy
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5 Dec 2011 10:03am
FlySurfer said...

I give blood, but I reckon I still owe them around 5 pints


Thanks, you reminded me I still owe them about 4 pints as well. Gotta dig out my donors card.
FormulaNova
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5 Dec 2011 8:37am
petermac33 said...

it gets down to psychology in the end,the evidence against vaccines is so overwhelming it doesn't even require debate.

saltiest,formulanova you both are [too] trusting souls and simply can't believe that they would commit such a fraud,despite the obvious motivation being there.

Life would be a bore if everybody could figure out the truth like me.




No, I am not that much a trusting soul. On the contrary, I like to read and understand discussions on science, and if I feel that there is a hole in my knowledge, I like to fill it. If I go to a doctor I tend to ask questions, and they often aren't used to answering questions, but I do like to understand things.

Where I see a hole in my knowledge, others see a conspiracy, so I guess it's each to his own.

FormulaNova
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5 Dec 2011 8:39am
SomeOtherGuy said...

FlySurfer said...

I give blood, but I reckon I still owe them around 5 pints


Thanks, you reminded me I still owe them about 4 pints as well. Gotta dig out my donors card.


Me, I am still in credit, and hope that I never need to change that.

theDoctor
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6 Dec 2011 4:03pm
The 1% Wants Your Vitamins
By By Adam Diskin
12-5-11

The 1% is led by Pharma, the biggest industry in the world. Six times bigger. Sick times bigger. See this trailer and wake up to the fact that conventional medicine is their bailiwick and they WANT disease. See this movie and wake up fully that these are not nice guys with an interest in health. Time to rethink things. The 1918 flu. The AIDS epidemic. The CDC. The prescription drugs.

And it's way past time to rethink vaccines, their huge investment for the future.

When you find yourself thinking "but don't we need vaccines, didn't they cure polio and aren't they saving children?", go have a strong drink and start reading. Polio was a very rare infectious disease that was disappearing on its own long before vaccines, but was turned into a national scare campaign as introduction to the corporate vaccines. It as the first ever to include another species and is responsible for an epidemic of cancer because of that. Those wanting to take away everyone's vitamins did this:

"U.S. Lifespan continues to decline, primarily due to a cancer-causing monkey virus that infected 98,000,000 Americans in contaminated Polio Vaccines, 60 years ago.

"Just like HPV-16 causes cervical cancer, the Simian Virus 40 (SV-40) monkey virus that contaminated virtually all Polio vaccines in the late 1950s and early 1960s, has infected 98,000,000 million Americans with a cancer causing monkey virus. Despite what the U.S. Government has told Americans that tests were "inconclusive" (click here), peer reviewed and published research has now confirmed the T-Ag gene of SV40 that contaminated the Polio Vaccine, is causing a 14.1% increase in cancers in 2011, including lung cancer: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17400331

"Even though the U.S. Government was notified of the contamination years earlier, the contaminated vaccine was still distributed to American Citizens for "the greater good," and to prevent loss of profits to vaccine manufacturers.


A Pakistan government inquiry found that:

"polio vaccines for infants funded by the Global Alliance for Vaccination and Immunisation are causing deaths and disabilities in regional countries including Pakistan.

"GAVI's partners include certain countries, the Bill and Melinda Gates Children's Vaccine Programme, International Federation of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers Association, Rockefeller Foundation, United Nations Children's Fund, World Health Organisation and the World Bank ..."

That may sound like a list of different groups but the Rockefellers are funding population reduction and child vaccine plans within the UN, the WHO is primarily funded by pharma, Gates, and the Rockefellers, and the World Bank is, well, the Bankers, which is the Rockefellers which is Phama. .

GAVI has a nasty reputation.


The primary focus of his multi-billion dollar Gates Foundation is vaccinations, especially in Africa and other underdeveloped countries. Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a founding member of the GAVI Alliance (Global Alliance for Vaccinations and Immunization) in partnership with the World Bank, WHO and the vaccine industry. The goal of GAVI is to vaccinate every newborn child in the developing world.2

Now that sounds like noble philanthropic work. The problem is that the vaccine industry has been repeatedly caught dumping dangerous-meaning unsafe because untested or proven harmful-vaccines onto unwitting Third World populations when they cannot get rid of the vaccines in the West.3 Some organizations have suggested that the true aim of the vaccinations is to make people sicker and even more susceptible to disease and premature death.4

And GAVI members control media. So, the disability and deaths their vaccines are causing in Pakistan appear in Pharma-controlled corporate media as the following ridicule or scare tactics.

Pakistanis spurn polio vaccines as Western plot - Los Angeles Times


Pakistan Polio Spreading To China - NPR


BBC News - Polio
<www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14997307>;
strain spreads to China from
<www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14997307>;
Pakistan


Polio near-eradicated in India ? Pakistan struggling


Latest Threat From
Pakistan
<blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2011/09/20/latest-threat-from-pakistan-polio/>;
Polio - India Real Times - WSJ


They even bring in terrorism.

Move to Get Bin Laden Hurt Polio Push - Wall Street Journal


Bill Gates even has a contract with one of the leading actors in India - Amitabh Bachchan - to push the oral polio, a vaccine rejected in the US because it caused polio. Bachchan's dramatized hype, which casts giving every child in India a potentially crippling or deadly vaccine, as a question of children's rights! His public service announcements with this lie, are all over India. Monsanto also used famous actors (posing as Gods) to sell Bt-cotton to Indian farmers, who since then have committed over 250,000 suicides. Just as "All the gods and divinities of this amazingly diverse country [India] have been mobilized to sell toxic seed and non-renewable seed, and [illterate] farmers have been seduced by it," educated Americans across the political spectrum have been seduced by "medicine" coming from the very same poison selling immoral companies which have converted "belief" in conventional medicine (themselves and their incessant "scientific" lies) into a new world religion.)

What do vaccines or GMOs or actors have to do with supplements?

These are the same companies trying to get rid of your access to vitamins and minerals. These are the same companies which gassed people in ovens and sought genocide and now act dramatically concerned about saving humanity, as they sell their extremely expensive, deadly products and plan how many billions to reduce the world population by.

"Gates' TED2010 speech on zero emissions and population reduction is consistent with a report that appeared in New York City's ethnic media, Irish.Central.com in May 2009. According to the report, a secret meeting took place on May 5, 2009 at the home of Sir Paul Nurse, President of Rockefeller University, among some of the wealthiest people in America. Investment guru Warren Buffett who in 2006 decided to pool his $30 billion Buffett Foundation into the Gates foundation to create the world's largest private foundation with some $60 billions of tax-free dollars was present. Banker David Rockefeller was the host. ....

"The exclusive letter of invitation was signed by Gates, Rockefeller and Buffett. They decided to call themselves the "Good Club." Also present was media czar Ted Turner, billionaire founder of CNN who stated in a 1996 interview for the Audubon nature magazine, where he said that a 95% reduction of world population to between 225-300 million would be "ideal." In a 2008 interview at Philadelphia's Temple University, Turner fine-tuned the number to 2 billion, a cut of more than 70% from today's population."


The reality is that vitamins and minerals and herbs and enzymes cure diseases, including AIDS, one of pharma's biggest money-makers.

And THAT is the big problem with vitamins. LIttle ole vitamins cure and that will destroy the pharmaceutical industry, the largest and most historically (and sadistically) deadly industry on earth. It is a trillion dollar investment industry.

"It is not in the financial interests of the pharmaceutical industry to prevent common diseases ? the maintenance and expansion of diseases is a precondition for the financial growth of this industry."

Nutritional supplements cure them.

Your vitamins may look like little mild things sitting in the bottles in your medicine cabinet, but you are looking at the most potent threat to Wall Street there is. Even just one vitamin could end the entire industry.

And if you are still caught in corporate spin that that vitamin doesn't do much or is toxic at large doses, you must have missed the famous 60 Minutes video that scared pharma so much Obama's FDA quickly blocked the mass manufacture of the IV version, as a Christmas present to the US last year. Now the FDA wants to seize it and other vitamins and minerals based sheerly on FDA slyly ensured paperwork errors or "misbranding," not dangers. One can say no to this bankers/Pharma trick here.

Getting rid of supplements is part of Codex Alimentarius, created by the leading industry of the 1% right after they got out of prison for mass murder and crimes against humanity. With the removal of supplements means the removal of cures while the synthetic drugs and vaccines are causing diseases and even killing. But they are also a means to alter the DNA and even for surveillance and biologic control of entire populations.

"Scientists working at Queen Mary, University of London, have developed micrometer-sized capsules to safely deliver drugs inside living cells. These "micro shuttles" could hypothetically be loaded with a specific microchip controlling the dose of medication to be opened remotely, releasing their contents. Besides monitoring the dosage, the same microchip could be used to surveil the patient in conjunction with various tracking systems. ....

"Biotech companies and their researchers have quickly moved most funding initiatives towards nanotechnology to increase the potency of their vaccines," he said. If microorganisms inside of vaccines can be coaxed into targeting or invading specific cells, they could achieve their goal at an accelerated rate over conventional vaccines. "Depending on which side of the vaccine debate you're on, whether pro or con, nanobots inside vaccine preparations could advance their effectiveness exponentially by either dramatically improving or destroying immunity depending on their design," he added.


Doug Dorst, a microbiologist and vaccine critic in South Wales, says these advances have an immense appeal to vaccine makers. Dorst claims that present day nanobot technology could just as easily be used to advance biological weapons as they can to advance human health. "For every fear that biotech propaganda proliferates about deadly diseases and how vaccines prevent them, it is one more lie to incrementally convince the masses that vaccines are effective."


The worry for Dorst is that one day vaccines "will do what they've always been intended for...control of the global populace."

The 1% are slipping all this over on the 99% which is focused on their theft of houses and jobs and the economy and destruction of the environment. But while the 1% has been exposed around all that, it still offers laughable credibility to "medicine" which the bankers/Pharma took over in the 1920's and with which they have suppressed cures and now have doctors in a hammer lock, denying them any coding for natural treatments and threatening their licensure if they do not give kids the entire slew of vaccines they now face.

And they have begun inserting RFID tags into drugs.

"One new technology [was] described at the U.S. Senate Committee on Aging:


"Emerging technologies allow pills to be electronically outfitted with transmitters to communicate with the user's wristwatch that shows that the pill has been consumed," said University of Virginia professor Robin Felder at the committee meeting. "Broadband connectivity of these devices would allow the electronic medical record to be updated with regard to medication compliance and efficacy."


They wish the same for food. And the creepy sci-fi possibilities they are working on with nanotechnology and genetic engineering, within a health care setting in which vaccines are already mandated and hundreds more are coming, people's insurance rates can go up if they do not comply with government "wellness" yet those drugs can provide surveillance, are not nice.

While Occupy Wall Street has been working hard to represent the 99% and expose the 1%, OWS and the 99% have a means to make life hard on the 1%,

Let your friends now what's up. If they are invested in pharma or biotech, perhaps they'l rethink. If they are working for those companies, perhaps they'll see what they are really doing.

Stop buying their products. Use an integrative physician who knows both drugs and natural medicine to help you get off their prescription drugs. As one wakes up to what is really going on, it becomes clear their diabetes drug causes heart attacks, their cholesterol drugs are linked to deaths and cancers, their psych drugs cause cancers (breast and ovarian) and suicides, their bone density drug causes bone collapse. The list goes on and on as so the deaths.

Meanwhile supplements are curing diseases, one after another, you don't get told about, and have caused no deaths in 27 years.

The 99% could demand their university or pension plan quit investing in pharma and biotech. Pharma is an investment industry. It is dependent on its brokers trusting the hype they get If it's clear that vaccines and drugs are getting swept up in the international revolt against the 1% and word is getting out to the public that all the vaccines are contaminated, those investments can begin to look risky.

While one might not personally be able to cut the profits from the oil companies, not using any and exposing the truth about pharma's products can have an effect, one that spreads rapidly as people warn each other. The whole system is based on lies and operates (differently from nuclear power or oil companies) on a person to person basis so it can begin to topple as truth is told and people at every level refuse.

(Pharma has a back up plan that would allow it to use military to force its products (nanochips and DNA-threat and all) on the whole country, based on triggering Bush's pandemic emergency (martial) laws, so exposing those laws to state legislators, doctors and everyone, is important.)


Saving supplements is not small potatoes. Nutrition ends up being the means to save the world. The same companies that controlled Nazi Germany are using "medicine" they control from WHO down to the local doctor, and science they also previously perverted into horror, to seize global control. The 99% can be free of disease and of the industries who feed on it (and on people) by seeing what is going on and speaking the truth, which should scare the bejeesus out of investors.

The 1% wants to shut the door on all freedom and are diabolically going at it at its root - everyone's biology. Taking away curative and unaltered, non-surveilling vitamins is crucial for the 1% to accomplish their long planned nightmare for humanity.

Saving nutritional supplements is crucial to the freedom and survival of the 99%.
saltiest1
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6 Dec 2011 4:09pm
i dont read long posts.
just sayin'.
theDoctor
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6 Dec 2011 4:11pm

classic sheeple statement

love how you can so assuredly make up your mind about something without reading anything longer than a few sentences, or listening to anything other than a sound bite on the news
saltiest1
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6 Dec 2011 4:20pm
haahaa no i just figured itd be the same ol same ol anyways. i like the "sheeple" thing btw, perfect description of people who follow something just cause its not mainstream, and search for the unlikely to be truth.
keep it up.
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