keep researching dazza....................it is actually possible to obtain single antigen vaccinations, however very expensive.

as i said before, the link to autism has been debunked....but, yes, high levels of mercury and other nasties...albumins, etc. are another issue altogether.

you are always okay to tweak the system a little as i did. be a 'conscientious objector' until you feel you're ready to jab.

and of course,,,,in a perfect world, both parents wouldn't be slaves to the wage and have to return work early and have their poor little mites in care from 6 weeks of age and be exposed to so many other kids and so many nasties...but once again,,,it ain't a perfect world....and i was lucky to be able to hang at home with mine. I still maintain it was integral in the healthy kids i have today. i ain't rich....i just made a choice.

as if early parenthood isn't hard enough without this moral quandary??!!

badinfluence said...

keep researching dazza....................it is actually possible to obtain single antigen vaccinations, however very expensive.

as i said before, the link to autism has been debunked....but, yes, high levels of mercury and other nasties...albumins, etc. are another issue altogether.

you are always okay to tweak the system a little as i did. be a 'conscientious objector' until you feel you're ready to jab.

and of course,,,,in a perfect world, both parents wouldn't be slaves to the wage and have to return work early and have their poor little mites in care from 6 weeks of age and be exposed to so many other kids and so many nasties...but once again,,,it ain't a perfect world....and i was lucky to be able to hang at home with mine. I still maintain it was integral in the healthy kids i have today. i ain't rich....i just made a choice.

as if early parenthood isn't hard enough without this moral quandary??!!

far out if everyone was so worried about how much it costs to have kids and to protect them, well dont have them. tweak the system fark thats just another word for scam spend more time making money than tweaking for your ways

'tweaking the system' was referring to the immunisation schedule and not the family tax benefit.............

and just stating a fact that individual vaccs are out there, albeit cost more.

patsken said...

Take whatever you want out of that but maybe the scare of mercury in the immunisation is not a big problem.

Why
1. Are pregnant mums told to steer clear of deep sea fish as they carry high levels of mercury.

2. The US health dept thought it best to ban vaccines that contained mercury. I read the research and whilst not conclusive they decided to err on the side of caution and ban them as there was some correlation there.

barn said...

whippingboy said...

I'm old enough to know people who had Polio.

Seen any kids with Polio lately ??

Exactly, all the diseases are gone so we don't need to immunize anymore!

For the better health of the forum, can you start putting a smiley icon. 'We' know you are being sarcastic, but I suspect others may think you are serious

On the other hand, if you really loved the planet you would argue that life is all important and that a virus has a right to life too

Measles has made a come back here in Auckland cos of negligent hippies like you fly surfer!

Also immunise your kid against flying foils, I have heard that disease has been bought over by Euros......... from Europe


hahahahahahahhahahhaahahh

Julie Gerberding....Former director of U.S CDC [centre for disease control] is now president of Merck's vaccine division.

Smell a rat?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Gerberding

For Big Pharma companies,vaccines are a billion dollar industry.

Doctors i bet receive bonuses to vaccinate us, making them sales reps for big pharma.

My wife is a scientist and she has a strong opinion against some of the vaccines because of their side effects.
Each person reacts differently to it, what is good for one kid can be a disaster for another. With a few of these vaccines we risk causing more harm than good.

There are obviously many benefits for immunising our kids – and us - but we over immunising and it's near impossible for the general public to know what's worth it or not.

I will be facing the same question in a couple of months and that could be a heated debate between our GP and my wife.

petermac33 said...

For Big Pharma companies,vaccines are a billion dollar industry.

Doctors i bet receive bonuses to vaccinate us, making them sales reps for big pharma.

You should back off the drugs.

So this is the state of play:

Those in favour of FULL immunisations, believe and trust the advice provided by the government institutions.

Those in favour of LIMITED immunisations, believe their child shouldn't be unnecessarily immunised against diseases that are rare, non fatal.

Those against immunisations, believe the big pharmaceutical companies have lobbied the government to provide impartial advice, the vaccines contain harmful preservatives to prolong shelf life and the vaccine maybe more dangerous than the disease.

Solutions:
1.- Make vaccines not for profit. So in effect socialise the manufacture and distribution.
2.- Remove the preservatives. Why can't people get fresh vaccines, like fresh milk?

Those who argue, well you eat mercury seafood... yes, but the body has mechanisms to deal with heavy metals when passed through the human gastrointestinal tract, including storing them in adipose tissue.

When injected directly in to the bloodstream these heavy metals can directly affect the nervous system causing tremors, autism (medical profession won't conduct study on this), erythema, encephalitis, encephalopathy... and may also be the tipping point from asymptomatic to symptomatic heavy metal poisoning.

When your child is very young these vaccines can be very harmful... sure most will handle it with only flu like symptoms and a rash, but would you want to be the minority who have longer term problems?

I believe it should be up to the parents to decide what they want to do, and no discrimination for their choice.
Give them partial advice and clearly define the side effects, efficacy and explain the disease.

One of the things that REALLY farking pisses me off about Australia apart from the ATO is the way medicines are dispatched...

1.- Go to a stupid Dr. who can't speak English or pay $180 to get a prescription
2.- Go to an over priced BS pharmacy who hands you and BLANK farking box with some kind of medicine.
3.- Pray you got given the right thing... it's easier now with Wikipedia.

In other countries, you go to a pharmacy where the pharmacist knows everything he/she sells REALLY well. He asks you why you need it and if you know the side effects and the purpose.
The medicine has a BIG piece of paper/booklet explaining EVERYTHING (contraindications, side effects, interactions, etc) about the drug.

doggie said...

petermac33 said...

For Big Pharma companies,vaccines are a billion dollar industry.

Doctors i bet receive bonuses to vaccinate us, making them sales reps for big pharma.

You should back off the drugs.

For Big Pharma companies, petermac33's drug habits are a billion dollar industry.

FlySurfer said...

1.- Go to a stupid Dr. who can't speak English or pay $180 to get a prescription
2.- Go to an over priced BS pharmacy who hands you and BLANK farking box with some kind of medicine.
3.- Pray you got given the right thing... it's easier now with Wikipedia.

1. YOU chose the doctor. And then you complain about him/her? Has it ever occurred to you to look for another doctor? We've been going to the same doctor for decades now. She's excellent. I would (and have) trusted her with my life.

2. You should stop going to backyard vet pharmacies! Every pharmacy I've been to gives me what I'm after in a regular box, with all the labels and together with the big leaflet that lists all the possible side effects and contra-indications. Usually the pharmacist will also ask if I've taken that kind of medication before and if not then they'll run me through the main shizz and what to look out for.

Anyone developed a Jab for bad back?

poor relative said...

Toots said...

Anyone developed a Jab for bad back?

I developed a cure for sore arms once but lost it on the number 12 bus

ive got a left jab for whinging little #@ckers.