Fark, @ 2 months your little one needs to have the following immunisations or no family tax credit:
Diphtheria
Tetanus
Pertussis
Polio
Hib
Hepatitis B
Pneumococcal

@ 4 months
Diphtheria
Tetanus
Pertussis
Polio
Hib
Hepatitis B
Pneumococcal

Source: http://immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/publishing.nsf/Content/faq-related-payments#immunised

I really wouldn't want to give my baby anything until he/she was ~2 years old and then ONLY for diseases that were prevalent in society.

This thread will end in tears..

An emotive issue this one.

So you only want to imunise against prevelant diseases.. so how did those disaeses cease being prevelant (answer - thru immunisation).

So which comes 1st the immunity or immunisation?

Tricky issue and it is not nice for any parent to see a little one jabbed a dozen or so times with (to the lay person) gawd knows what.

My 2c is it's probably the lesser of two evils to go for the jabs.

getfunky said...

FormulaNova said...

There already are! A lot of them won't even immunize their kids ;-)

You do realise that your lack of immunization is potentially creating an epidemic for others don't you?

Mrs Funky is a paediatric nurse and gets very steamed up at the attitude of know-it-all hippies who give their kids zero immunisation.

At the end of the day it is a personal decision but i think the wider issue of 'one in - all in" for max benefit to society is lost.

Damn hippies

I'm old enough to know people who had Polio.

Seen any kids with Polio lately ??

whippingboy said...

I'm old enough to know people who had Polio.

Seen any kids with Polio lately ??

Yeah, that's a good point. I saw a doco on this recently, and it seemed so random that entire communities were afflicted.

Certainly a good argument for maintaining immunizations.

getfunky said...

This thread will end in tears..

Yep, 70%+ chance!

I've been immunized against plenty of diseases, and had top-ups over the years. The only sicknesses I've had are colds & flu, 1 bout of crook-gut, and a couple of killer hang overs. I think I turned out "OK", but the jury might still be out!

We decided to immunize our boy. He's been totally fine, he's really healthy, and he's pretty much only had 1 "cold" for his entire 2 years & 6 months. His health has been excellent, and he's missed out on all of those nasty nasty kids diseases. His vocabulary skills are nothing short of exemplary for his age. (In Seabreeze Forum Terms, does this mean he ended up with Autism from the immunizations, thus making him very intelligent?! - yeah yeah, a few of you read too deeply into things, and love DOOM & GLOOM! ).

let the kids eat bugs,play in the dirt,do really disgusting thing and keep away from all this anti bacterial this and that. plus give them some jabs and teach them to swim

Easy - forego the family tax credit and do whatever you please.

Mackerel said...

chrispychru said...

let the kids eat bugs,play in the dirt,do really disgusting thing and keep away from all this anti bacterial this and that. plus give them some jabs and teach them to swim

That's the most sensible health advice going. It's what my parents did and I'm bloody fine.

Same for me, my neighbours, when we were kids grew up in a very sterile home and were sick alot of the time and they also had bad asthma.

^^ Classic Flysurfer lol..


The thing about immunisation is it only really works if everyone is immunized, as soon as you let a few infected hosts amongst a healthy population it's only a matter of time before the disease in question evolves resistance to the immunized population.

We have only been immunizing humans for a short period, in that time we have almost eliminated many diseases. If we let our guard down then these diseases will all come back. They will evolve, just like the Flu does every year.

Really, people who do not immunize their children are not just putting their own kids at risk, but the whole bloody population. LOL.

Life finds a way.

Legion said...

petermac33 said...

http://idigmygarden.com/forums/showthread.php?s=22b9cdb374bf2239ea75bb0e138311fd&t=7656

The worst part is, even if you decide not to get your kids immunised, the gubernment spreads the immunisation drugs via the chemtrails. We're not safe anywhere any more. Wear a facemask, please! For your own safety.

You forgot the tin foil hat, its ok Peter buys in bulk

FlySurfer said...

getfunky said...

This thread will end in tears..

An emotive issue this one.

So you only want to imunise against prevelant diseases.. so how did those disaeses cease being prevelant (answer - thru immunisation).

So which comes 1st the immunity or immunisation?

Tricky issue and it is not nice for any parent to see a little one jabbed a dozen or so times with (to the lay person) gawd knows what.

My 2c is it's probably the lesser of two evils to go for the jabs.

Last year I got immunized and ONLY cos they said I wouldn't be allowed back in, just 1 and I felt farked for 2 weeks... I don't even think I've ever recovered.

I wouldn't put my 2 month old through ALL of those.

Polio, WTF! Who has ever got polio in the past 50 years??? Did anyone ever get it in Australia?

And my parents were hippies and didn't immunize me against anything... when I broke my front teeth I got a Tetanus jab in the ass ... insult to injury.

Doc... we need your insight.

Did anyone ever get Polio in Australia ???

The answer is a definite YES !! I personally know two people - both born in the late 1940's to early 1950's.

They both are well but have had lifelong issues which I wouldn't like to see my healthy kids get 'cos of some ill-informed forum "knowledge" that gets put out to make the people who choose not to immunize feel better about their ideals (and put others at risk).

gibberjoe said...


A lot of the so callled jabs are multi so maybe 1 jab covers 4 problems that may or may not turn up until later in life when it is not a good time to imunise... What happens to your kid when they jiggy jig with some non imunised other friend who could be positive to a problem that there is no need to be contagious of BECAUSE of imunization when we were young [}:)]

The least of the Jigger Jiggee problems will be lead poisoning if he is anywhere near my daughters before the age of ......26!!!!!

FlySurfer said...
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Polio, WTF! Who has ever got polio in the past 50 years??? Did anyone ever get it in Australia?

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The reason people don't get polio is because we are all vaccinated against it.

Did you think it disappeared by magic?

Vaccination reduces the viral load in the community so there is less of it to go round, and we all have immunity from the vaccination. It's simple, less virus and a less hospitable environment for it.

If people stop getting vaccinated then the diseases will come back.

This is the most insane issue ever. There are people dying in Africa because they can't afford vaccination (aside from clean water, hygeine and nutrition).

We get it as a matter of course, and we are healthier than any generation of humans in history, and people want to stop it because they're afraid of needles.

BTW Australian legend, Sister Kenny ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Kenny ) developed a treatment for polio, which was a scourge in the early part of the 20th century. Kids used to get put into wheelchairs, or iron lungs, and left to rot for the rest of their lives. She worked out simple physiotherapy exercises that got them moving again. Hollywood made a movie about her.

Just had to drive that home' err

Emotive issue for sure. My wife had a mates wife say to her she would have blood on her hands if she did not immunise our child which wasnt even born at the time!
Before the recent birth of my first child my wife and I did a ton of research into immunisation. Main reason being is that my wife was working for a charity that supports families with disabled children. The number of cases where the parents claimed their child was perfectly fine until their immunization jab concerned us so we decided to look at the pros and cons of immunisation. We started by looking into the recommended doses and what chemicals were present in the doses plus the potential side effects and the combination of shots. What we found is that there were large camps on both sides for and against and both with compelling cases. What was a concern is that Australia is way behind the US and NZ in its immunisation program. Australia does not offer single dose vaccines and still allows vaccines that contain mercury which are banned in the US. It's these vaccines and combo shots which jabbed into a newborn still developing it's immune system worried us. We looked into trying to obtain single dose vaccines and even importing them but had no luck at all. My wife and I are still in a quandary as to what to do. Delaying the immunisation seems to be one option or not immunising at all another.......
I am not against immunisation just the program forced upon us by our Govt.