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Because there are groups who are trying to professionalise Outrage, link legitimate concerns with a targeted minority, keep repeating their attempts to gaslight until people accept it as a legitimate alternative.
oooooh sounds scary
Here's a question for you.
Do you think the National Socialist Network should be allowed to form a political party?
This is directly related to the topic at hand.
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Dementia Don worries me ....
I just do not get the negative mindset. Why worry about stuff you can't change. Just go for a surf, fish, foil, wind whatever or mtb/motorbike ride, post a couple of things on Seabreeze.com,au. Life is short enjoy it
Ah yes until he crashes markets and my super does not earn what it should. Got to buy toys to ride 
Or he and his mates start WW3?
Select to expand quoteD3 said..cammd said..D3 said..
Because there are groups who are trying to professionalise Outrage, link legitimate concerns with a targeted minority, keep repeating their attempts to gaslight until people accept it as a legitimate alternative.
oooooh sounds scary
Here's a question for you.
Do you think the National Socialist Network should be allowed to form a political party?
This is directly related to the topic at hand.
I would like to say no because I dont like nazi's, would like to say no to communists too because I dont like commies either. Would be kind of nice to get rid of the greens now we are on the subject but it wouldn't be democracy would it, so unfortunatley in order to remain free we have to put up with ideas we dont like.
Select to expand quotecammd said..D3 said..cammd said..D3 said..
Because there are groups who are trying to professionalise Outrage, link legitimate concerns with a targeted minority, keep repeating their attempts to gaslight until people accept it as a legitimate alternative.
oooooh sounds scary
Here's a question for you.
Do you think the National Socialist Network should be allowed to form a political party?
This is directly related to the topic at hand.
I would like to say no because I dont like nazi's, would like to say no to communists too because I dont like commies either. Would be kind of nice to get rid of the greens now we are on the subject but it wouldn't be democracy would it, so unfortunatley in order to remain free we have to put up with ideas we dont like.
If you're equating Greens with Nazis based on you not liking them?
I think we have found the problem
Select to expand quoteD3 said..cammd said..D3 said..cammd said..D3 said..
Because there are groups who are trying to professionalise Outrage, link legitimate concerns with a targeted minority, keep repeating their attempts to gaslight until people accept it as a legitimate alternative.
oooooh sounds scary
Here's a question for you.
Do you think the National Socialist Network should be allowed to form a political party?
This is directly related to the topic at hand.
I would like to say no because I dont like nazi's, would like to say no to communists too because I dont like commies either. Would be kind of nice to get rid of the greens now we are on the subject but it wouldn't be democracy would it, so unfortunatley in order to remain free we have to put up with ideas we dont like.
If you're equating Greens with Nazis based on you not liking them?
I think we have found the problem
Hmm, I dont think I did, however that said they probably have some common ground when it comes the existance of Israel. I brought the greens into to the discussion to demostrate just not liking different or even offensive ideas is no justification for banning them. Its a very basic democratic principal, I would think you know that, your just trying to paint me into something I'm not.
If I am incorrect it is a very anti democratic position you seem to support.
Select to expand quotecammd said..D3 said..cammd said..D3 said..cammd said..D3 said..
Because there are groups who are trying to professionalise Outrage, link legitimate concerns with a targeted minority, keep repeating their attempts to gaslight until people accept it as a legitimate alternative.
oooooh sounds scary
Here's a question for you.
Do you think the National Socialist Network should be allowed to form a political party?
This is directly related to the topic at hand.
I would like to say no because I dont like nazi's, would like to say no to communists too because I dont like commies either. Would be kind of nice to get rid of the greens now we are on the subject but it wouldn't be democracy would it, so unfortunatley in order to remain free we have to put up with ideas we dont like.
If you're equating Greens with Nazis based on you not liking them?
I think we have found the problem
Hmm, I dont think I did but in saying that they probably have some common ground when it comes the existance of Israel. I brought the greens into to the discussion to demostrate just not liking different or even offensive ideas is no justification for banning them. Its a very basic democratic principal, I would think you know that, your just trying to paint me into something I'm not.
Its a very anti democratic position you seem to support.
I didn't suggest we should ban Ideas or parties just because we don't like them
I'd be interested to know why you say you don't like the NSN?
I'm not suggesting you're a supporter, but wondering if you could give a couple of reasons why they asr distasteful to you?
Select to expand quoteD3 said..cammd said..D3 said..cammd said..D3 said..cammd said..D3 said..
Because there are groups who are trying to professionalise Outrage, link legitimate concerns with a targeted minority, keep repeating their attempts to gaslight until people accept it as a legitimate alternative.
oooooh sounds scary
Here's a question for you.
Do you think the National Socialist Network should be allowed to form a political party?
This is directly related to the topic at hand.
I would like to say no because I dont like nazi's, would like to say no to communists too because I dont like commies either. Would be kind of nice to get rid of the greens now we are on the subject but it wouldn't be democracy would it, so unfortunatley in order to remain free we have to put up with ideas we dont like.
If you're equating Greens with Nazis based on you not liking them?
I think we have found the problem
Hmm, I dont think I did but in saying that they probably have some common ground when it comes the existance of Israel. I brought the greens into to the discussion to demostrate just not liking different or even offensive ideas is no justification for banning them. Its a very basic democratic principal, I would think you know that, your just trying to paint me into something I'm not.
Its a very anti democratic position you seem to support.
I didn't suggest we should ban Ideas or parties just because we don't like them
I'd be interested to know why you say you don't like the NSN?
I'm not suggesting you're a supporter, but wondering if you could give a couple of reasons why they asr distasteful to you?
I assume they are Neo Nazi scum, that's enough for me to look no further.
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I didn't suggest we should ban Ideas or parties just because we don't like them
No you didn't did you, you didn't say we shouldn't either. Actually you havent really stated anything, your avoiding revealing your position on your own question in favour of trying to slur me.
Because my position is irrelevant to what yours is.
I'm trying hard not to assume too much and make strawman arguments, rather make an informed assessment.
And I try to avoid slurs, if you feel the language I am using is derogatory towards you feel free to let me know.
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The answer to the question posed by hilly is.
We voted for it.
Highlighted by my new favourite moment in Australian Politics!
Senator Thorpe raising a point of order:
"I just got called a Bitch, by the Racist"
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I bet GPHAE dont list one terrorist organisation as a hate group do they. Maybe I am wrong and you can point me to the list
Meanwhile
Christians villagers in Nigeria have been getting slaughted by the village, entire villages of men women children and The Global Project against Hate and Extremism doesn't mention it, not a word. Instead it lists the Australian Christian Lobby as a hate group.
Why would that be hilly. Why would the GLOBAL Project against Hate and extremism look past tens of thousands of innocent people being slaughted and instead focus on a Australian political lobby group. Never thought to wonder about stuff like that I guess.
Propaganda for the stupid is a understatement.
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Because my position is irrelevant to what yours is.
I think this wins the prize for the most limp dick response on this forum for 2026. I did think myscreename had that honor with his "Karen" sook to the mods but you have managed to go one better.
State your position if you believe in it. I can only assume your ashamed to say what you really think or you know it will get torn apart by primary school logic. The rest of what you have has to say is just trolling, not worth responding to.
Select to expand quotecammd said..Propaganda for the stupid is a understatement.
Pretty sure the Nigeria violence, which is tragic, does not fit into what they are about. globalextremism.org/about-us/ and yes they are addressing propoganda from the right which is for the stupid.
Launched in 2020, the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism (GPAHE) was founded by Heidi Beirich and Wendy Via to fill a critical gap in countering the transnational spread of far-right extremism and hate, particularly U.S.-based activity that is exported to other countries and across borders. These networks have grown increasingly coordinated, well-funded, and politically influential across borders.
Heidi and Wendy are both veterans of the Southern Poverty Law Center, one of the most prestigious civil rights organizations in the U.S., where they worked for nearly two decades on the pressing civil and human rights issues of our time, specifically the white supremacy-based hate and extremism that affects people's and communities' daily lives and infiltrates our public systems, undermining marginalized communties and our democracy.
GPAHE tackles the issues of spreading far-right extremism, political violence, and growing authoritarianism by working to reduce the terrorization of marginalized communities and our society, and by tackling systemic problems rooted in hate in our governments and societies.
I'm thinking Albo has two more terms in him.
Coalition are lost in the wilderness and One Nation have always been an irrelevant novelty.
We need to get used to Cammd's whining and complaining about the centre-left for at least a decade.
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Here's a question for you.
Do you think the National Socialist Network should be allowed to form a political party?
This is directly related to the topic at hand.
Maybe there should be a system where we vet the formation of political parties ?
There could be some sort of office, comprised of people who review the political leaning of individuals and groups and determine if they should be allowed to form an organised group.
We could call it the Office of Politics. Or maybe the Bureau of Political-ology. Or just 'Politburo' for short.
The Politburo could provide D3 with some sort of comfort that people's opinions that are are wrong are not are permitted in society.
Although I am a bit confused. Are we required to hate all forms socialism or just national socialism ? Maybe D3's Politburo could have field officers who go out and about to educate the people on the right form of socialism ?
Select to expand quotehilly said..cammd said..Propaganda for the stupid is a understatement.
Pretty sure the Nigeria violence, which is tragic, does not fit into what they are about. globalextremism.org/about-us/ and yes they are addressing propoganda from the right which is for the stupid.
Launched in 2020, the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism (GPAHE) was founded by Heidi Beirich and Wendy Via to fill a critical gap in countering the transnational spread of far-right extremism and hate, particularly U.S.-based activity that is exported to other countries and across borders. These networks have grown increasingly coordinated, well-funded, and politically influential across borders.
Heidi and Wendy are both veterans of the Southern Poverty Law Center, one of the most prestigious civil rights organizations in the U.S., where they worked for nearly two decades on the pressing civil and human rights issues of our time, specifically the white supremacy-based hate and extremism that affects people's and communities' daily lives and infiltrates our public systems, undermining marginalized communties and our democracy.
GPAHE tackles the issues of spreading far-right extremism, political violence, and growing authoritarianism by working to reduce the terrorization of marginalized communities and our society, and by tackling systemic problems rooted in hate in our governments and societies.
Ok I understand, its not all hate and extremism they oppose, pardon my misunderstanding of the term GLOBAL, they are fine with people being erradicated based on religion if its the wrong religion, which I guess explains why they listed ACL as a hate group being christian an all. And you quoted them.
hilly are you for real.
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I'm thinking Albo has two more terms in him.
Coalition are lost in the wilderness and One Nation have always been an irrelevant novelty.
We need to get used to Cammd's whining and complaining about the centre-left for at least a decade.
You could always call management if your feeling apprehensive.
Select to expand quotecammd said..hilly said..cammd said..Propaganda for the stupid is a understatement.
Pretty sure the Nigeria violence, which is tragic, does not fit into what they are about. globalextremism.org/about-us/ and yes they are addressing propoganda from the right which is for the stupid.
Launched in 2020, the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism (GPAHE) was founded by Heidi Beirich and Wendy Via to fill a critical gap in countering the transnational spread of far-right extremism and hate, particularly U.S.-based activity that is exported to other countries and across borders. These networks have grown increasingly coordinated, well-funded, and politically influential across borders.
Heidi and Wendy are both veterans of the Southern Poverty Law Center, one of the most prestigious civil rights organizations in the U.S., where they worked for nearly two decades on the pressing civil and human rights issues of our time, specifically the white supremacy-based hate and extremism that affects people's and communities' daily lives and infiltrates our public systems, undermining marginalized communties and our democracy.
GPAHE tackles the issues of spreading far-right extremism, political violence, and growing authoritarianism by working to reduce the terrorization of marginalized communities and our society, and by tackling systemic problems rooted in hate in our governments and societies.
Ok I understand, its not all hate and extremism they oppose, pardon my misunderstanding of the term GLOBAL, they are fine with people being erradicated based on religion if its the wrong religion, which I guess explains why they listed ACL as a hate group being christian an all. And you quoted them.
hilly are you for real.
Are you blind
particularly U.S.-based activity that is exported to other countries and across borders
Islamic groups killing Christians probably not in their charter is the point I am making.
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We could call it the Office of Politics. Or maybe the Bureau of Political-ology. Or just 'Politburo' for short.
The Politburo could provide D3 with some sort of comfort that people's opinions that are are wrong are not are permitted in society.
Although I am a bit confused. Are we required to hate all forms socialism or just national socialism ? Maybe D3's Politburo could have field officers who go out and about to educate the people on the right form of socialism ?
See Cammd, this is why I try not to make assumptions and create a strawman of someone else's position.
See what Carantoc has done here? By creating a ridiculous scenario and presenting it as if it is my position, he is able to then make it seem like my position is easily dismissed and defeated based on this ridiculousness. Despite the fact that it has nothing to do with me, and is purely a figment of his imagination.
Select to expand quotecammd said.. I assume they are Neo Nazi scum, that's enough for me to look no further.
See that wasn't hard.
And I know you have previously stated that Australia and Australians need to make sure we don't give up on the values and beliefs that previous generations have fought for. (words to similar effect, that thread got deleted)
So, to me it would seem that we can both agree that Neo-Nazis to have a voice and platform in Australia would not be a good thing?
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See what Carantoc has done here?
Its called 'satire' D3.
Here's a link to explain.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire
The state of political satire in a given society reflects the tolerance or intolerance that characterizes it,[19] and the state of civil liberties and human rights. Under totalitarian regimes any criticism of a political system, and especially satire, is suppressed.
Here's a question for you.
Do you think the Carantoc should be allowed to form Seabreeze.com.au satire?
This is directly related to the topic at hand.
Oh, it was satire?
Maybe if you wrote it well enough that people could identify as such (as per your link)?
I see you've managed to also imply that you somehow think I'm against satire and in against people being able to criticise others, especially those in power?
Otherwise, I'm sure if you were genuine in your desire to educate me as to the definition of satire, you might have used a quote more akin to the following?
Satire is a genre of the visual, literary, and performing arts, usually in the form of fiction and less frequently non-fiction, in which vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, often with the intent of exposing or shaming the perceived flaws of individuals, corporations, government, or society itself into improvement.
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Here's a question for you.
Do you think the Carantoc should be allowed to form Seabreeze.com.au satire?
This is directly related to the topic at hand.
If you do, I really hope you do a better job?
I don't expect Betoota or Onion quality, but you've gotta up your game if you want to be seen as a genuine purveyor of Satire rather than petty snark.
Sorry D3, sorry.
I'll endeavor to persevere on my journey to self-improvement.
We all get lost along the way, like that one time I thought I could use interacting with Pete Mac as a learning experience....
How did we get here?.....
I think religion ( ie. belief in different imaginary friends and that mine is better than yours ) can take 90% of the blame.
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How did we get here?.....
I think religion ( ie. belief in different imaginary friends and that mine is better than yours ) can take 90% of the blame.
have to ask, have you always been this conservative.?
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How did we get here?.....
I think religion ( ie. belief in different imaginary friends and that mine is better than yours ) can take 90% of the blame.
have to ask, have you always been this conservative.?
I didn't know that this was considered conservative. But I can't see the point of religion. From my observations over the years, nothing good has come from it.
It gives a means to control people and something for people to believe in. But at the end of the day, are people who are religious any better than those who aren't and will it save them from being washed away in a flood, caught in a bushfire or being hit by a missile or meteorite?
