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Sailhack
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17 Jul 2010 10:23am
Regardless of deliberate, or not...there should & hopefully will be life (death) sentences for those at the top of the decision-making chain! If you get in a car & drive carelessly & kill an innocent person, you get jail time. This has killed 11 workers, not to mention millions of living creatures, birds, fish, and devastated a whole country's economy & health & basically negatively affected our global ecosystem.

Bugger the money, although they need to cough up to balance out money it's cost the locals - but make them pay with their lives![}:)]

And...hopefully now they've halted the leak, they permanently fix it!
theDoctor
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17 Jul 2010 10:49am


listen to the Cliff High interview on www.rense.com

the 'leak' is not capped, not plugged or even contained.

watched dwtv news last night at friends house where BP spin story was actually saying the well is now contained but they expect more leaks and that people should actually view more leaks as a good thing because it shows that they are progressing with the containment process... (wtf?)

the best part was when he went on to say that the people of the gulf hate BP at the moment but really need to come to grips with the fact that they need BP in the gulf more than they need clean beaches and their fishing industry...

TAKE THE TIME TO LISTEN TO THE CLIFF HIGH INTERVIEW ON www.rense.com










nebbian
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17 Jul 2010 4:28pm
I find it interesting that the big 'A Whale' drove around the gulf for ages, and picked up just a teensy tiny little bit of oil... far less than was expected.

I guess that sort of system is difficult to design at the best of times, let alone retrofit to a cargo ship.
petermac33
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17 Jul 2010 4:36pm
if they did not disperse the oil using a poison, then i'm sure the 'A Whale' could have collected much of the oil.

but then this does not fit in with the agenda of poisoning the Gulf area as excuse for evacuating the Gulf area. [martial law]
theDoctor
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17 Jul 2010 7:18pm


exactly how do you evacuate 40-50 million people...?

(answer is, you don't)

listen to the Cliff High interview
petermac33
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17 Jul 2010 5:30pm
fema camps possibly,

self evacuation leading to gun Confiscation,

what is your take on possible agenda?

will listen to Cliff High interview tonight.
mattyjee
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18 Jul 2010 8:00am
ffs whats with all the consiparacy theories still...

I cant wait until all this has passed and you all have to say you were wrong.
theDoctor
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18 Jul 2010 9:36pm
mattyjee said...

ffs whats with all the consiparacy theories still...

I cant wait until all this has passed and you all have to say you were wrong.


i so hope you're right.

hope for the best, prepare for the worst

but the oil gushing is only half the problem, the other gasses associated are what insider reports are beginning to deem to be the biggest threat.

benzene levels recorded at 3000 parts per billion

hydrogen sulfide levels at 3500 parts per billion

Lindsay Williams interview on oil catastrophe

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_L_Williams_070110.mp3
lightwood
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22 Jul 2010 11:51am
Anyone know what picture they photoshoped?
longwinded
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23 Jul 2010 2:21am
theDoctor said...


bought a newspaper to kill some time, noticed not one story or update on the goings on in the gulf...

guess that must mean everything is hunky dory and the problem is fixed...?

this disaster should never be off the front page



And this explains why your chemtrails thread is at page 13 and this thread is floundering at page 4. Perhaps we need some more (.)(.) to stimulate discussion, as pictures of lubricated pelicans just doesn't seem to be cutting it.
japie
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23 Jul 2010 9:52am
longwinded said...

theDoctor said...


bought a newspaper to kill some time, noticed not one story or update on the goings on in the gulf...

guess that must mean everything is hunky dory and the problem is fixed...?

this disaster should never be off the front page



And this explains why your chemtrails thread is at page 13 and this thread is floundering at page 4. Perhaps we need some more (.)(.) to stimulate discussion, as pictures of lubricated pelicans just doesn't seem to be cutting it.



Have you not noticed the complete lack of news on newsworthy items when commercial interests are involved?

All the popular press belongs to a club, a pretty small one at that. It is sheep fodder and the majority are sheep, act like sheep and live like sheep.
petermac33
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23 Jul 2010 9:10am
"If you write outside the reigning paradigm you will not get published, you will have to do it yourself. That requires a large degree of effort and dedication. You will also have to brace yourself for derision and ridicule. People will attempt to 'teach' you what you yourself are qualified to teach their teachers."

Neville T. Jones, PhD

mattyjee
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23 Jul 2010 1:57pm
^^^

Or alternatively, nothing will happen.

Boy you get excited easily. Stop being so paranoid that everyone is out to get you and go enjoy some sun and surf.
theDoctor
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23 Jul 2010 4:23pm
^^ moron.



AquaPlow
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23 Jul 2010 4:35pm
Bring this topic back in a year - I believe to most it will be -- oh yeah I remember that...

I predict the visual impact this time in 8-9 months will be gone.
I also predict the bulk of the simpler marine life will be back to pre-disaster levels within 2 or less years..
The major unknown here is the long term impact of the dispersant and what sort of half life it has in the higher order marine food chain (is it DDT like?).

The area has had long (very long) term background level of nature's oil leaks. The food chain includes microbes which have evolved to eat oil. The water temperatures are fairly high by ocean standards and fairly energetic (small choppy waves) so the breakdown will occur faster.

I heard the Chin(a?)ese are currently dealing with a marine oil leak from a ruptured pipe using the biological approach - likely smarter.

Do you remember those surreal picures after the Iraq army withdrawal from Kuwait ('91) - dozens of oil fields blown and burning alot into the gulf. From memory 18 months on the sea born pollution was gone.

I also predict the human food chain feeding on the clean-up in the US will extend its tenure for at least 20 billion USD's worth regardless if the costs end up being less.

They (US citizen)find it hard to kick most big business in the US particularly after the bastardisation of the s(t)ock exchange by Wall St leaving so many people as financial road kill...so BP is a duck shoot - cathartic too - BP have a massive cash flow and have had for decades so $20 billion in eschrew(SPELLING?) is relatively small change - but big in terms of short term liquid assets - 18 months from now a set-back but not much more.

Human nature being what it is - business as usual is already back up and running for ocean drilling and exploration - the cost of this type of industry are massive, the capital expenditure and infra-structure around oil exploration and production expecially at this scale is beyond stopping.
By way of comparison this area (Gulf of Mexico) was major before the North sea oil fields started in the mid-late seventies, and it is still massive as the North Sea oil fields wind down and get de-commissioned as the reservoirs are depleted.

Anyway - go microbes.... (and the relief wells!!).

(Some of the statements above on penalties to those responsible (!!!) are like tomorrow's fish and chip wrappers - Compare this to say the Union Carbide (American Company (with - at the time - lip service safety standards over-seas)) factory explosion in Bohpal in India and the human cost and tragedy associated (and still on-going some 30 years (??) later) - it all revolves around money and compensation - this is current but like the impact of hurricanes will rapidly fade).

ginger pom
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24 Jul 2010 12:16am
petermac33 said...

"If you write outside the reigning paradigm you will not get published, you will have to do it yourself. That requires a large degree of effort and dedication. You will also have to brace yourself for derision and ridicule. People will attempt to 'teach' you what you yourself are qualified to teach their teachers."

Neville T. Jones, PhD




"Being outside the reigning paradigm may get you ridiculed.

Ridicule will be worse if you are unable to defend your views with anything other than youtube clips and craziness.

More importantly being outside the reigning paradigm is not a sufficient condition to be either interesting or truthful. ****ting in your shoes rather than the toilet is outside of the reigning paradigm for toilet behaviour. It is not innovative though."

Ginger Pom


PeterWac33
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24 Jul 2010 8:10am
Has anyone considered that the oil is not actually coming from the oil rig but is instead a leak from an underworld civilisation of the NWO? Or one of their submarines?
petermac33
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24 Jul 2010 8:39am
if you think this NWO is not real, google Gordon Brown calling for a NWO,he has said it so many times even the sheep must understand.



PeterWac33
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24 Jul 2010 8:41am
You don't understand. They're are loads of NWOs

You only know about one of them. In fact there's a whole order of new world orders - an ONWO. The ONWO is four layers deep and that's before you start looking at the OONWOs...

You only refer to the bottom of the structure. You ignorant sheep
ginger pom
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24 Jul 2010 10:46am
PeterWac33 said...

You don't understand. They're are loads of NWOs

You only know about one of them. In fact there's a whole order of new world orders - an ONWO. The ONWO is four layers deep and that's before you start looking at the OONWOs...

You only refer to the bottom of the structure. You ignorant sheep


Shouldn't the whole order of new world orders be a WONWO and the super structure that you refer to be a WOWONWO?



petermac33
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24 Jul 2010 8:59am
if this is the level of discussion gp then i think you got me.

It is more difficult to demolish a preconceived opinion than an atom. - Albert Einstein
maxm
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24 Jul 2010 11:39am
petermac33 said...

if this is the level of discussion gp then i think you got me.

It is more difficult to demolish a preconceived opinion than an atom. - Albert Einstein



I think you quoted something pertinent there Peter. It's proving extremely difficult to rid you of your preconceived notions. You hear Gordon Brown mention "new world order" and you immediately leap to the conclusion that he's talking about your preconceived notion of New World Order. He wasn't. Go read his speeches in full and try to follow what he is actually talking about. Not what you think he is talking about but what he is really talking about. Clear your mind of preconceptions.

Another quote for your collection:

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"
-Carl Sagan

So far I have seen you deliver lots of extraordinary claims but not a scrap of extraordinary evidence. Not even some really good ordinary evidence.
petermac33
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24 Jul 2010 10:38am
i have come to a point where i'm ready to surrender.

surrender to david icke forum or henry makow where the folks don't have their
eyes wide shut,i just can't explain it.

something perhaps to do with 'psychology of fear',it can't possibly have to do with intelligence, as the evidence is in your face overwhelming.

see ya
ginger pom
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24 Jul 2010 1:00pm
petermac33 said...

i have come to a point where i'm ready to surrender.

surrender to david icke forum or henry makow where the folks don't have their
eyes wide shut,i just can't explain it.

something perhaps to do with 'psychology of fear',it can't possibly have to do with intelligence, as the evidence is in your face overwhelming.

see ya


some people are overwhelmed more easily that others. My whelm is most definitely not overed at the moment...
PeterWac33
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24 Jul 2010 11:02am
The new world order has been working on your whelm. The fifth level of the WONWO met last week to increase de-whelmification...
poor relative
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24 Jul 2010 11:15am
petermac33 said...

i have come to a point where i'm ready to surrender.

surrender to david icke forum or henry makow where the folks don't have their
eyes wide shut,i just can't explain it.

something perhaps to do with 'psychology of fear',it can't possibly have to do with intelligence, as the evidence is in your face overwhelming.




As that chick once said to you petermac - you really need to get laid.

mattyjee
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6 Aug 2010 7:41am
BP says Macondo static kill cementing completed

Houston (Platts)--5Aug2010/505 pm EDT/2105 GMT

BP has completed the cementing phase of the static kill operation to
close its blown-out Macondo well in the Gulf of Mexico, said Thursday.

So the world didn't end.

Petermac- you were wrong
the doctor - you were wrong.
and others - you too.

Eat your words gentlemen.
lightwood
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6 Aug 2010 9:45am
It's hardly over.
theDoctor
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14 Aug 2010 9:35am


hardly over as barely begun..

anticipated 1.2 billion dead

initially, the immediately affected already effected and soon to be displaced 50 million american citizens will signal an economic collapse ending, more than likely forever, the power of the u.s dollar.

non of this is being reported in mainstream

those that are trying are having accidents or disappearing..



http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/breaking-undersea-tornado-seafloor-bursting-with-anomalies-abrupt-shift-from-white-seepage-to-black-videos

www.businessinsider.com/matthew-simmons-we-now-have-killed-the-gulf-of-mexico-2010-7

noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a633vqiki_Tc

kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2010/7/17_Matt_Simmons.html



www.wlbz2.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=123586&catid=3

blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/08/07/crime-century-bp-government-dont/

worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=940

www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/non-stop-black-seepage-from-spot-near-a-line-in-seafloor-video

www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/10x-time-lapse-of-thick-clouds-seeping-from-seafloor-video

ginger pom
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14 Aug 2010 10:13am
theDoctor said...


initially, the immediately affected already effected and soon to be displaced 50 million american citizens will signal an economic collapse ending, more than likely forever, the power of the u.s dollar.



short the dollar then... put your money where you mouth is

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