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Macroscien
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12 Jul 2011 8:34pm
If evolution is true, doesn't mean that stops right now, and we are not the monkey anymore.
The true intelligent creature will be born sooner of later.

I hope that Humanus Superius will treat us homo-sapiens well.
We could be very useful -do funny tricks in the circus, cut the grass, we will be easy to breed as pets , not very demanding in food,
Every kid could keep a pair of homosapiences in the jar next to gold fish or hamster.
I hope that we do not taste very well ...



Year 2200. Sunday advertisement.

Christmas Special !!! (since Humanus Superius doesn't belive in God, neither in Evolution but do believe in Santa Claus )



Buy one homospecies today and receive free cage and pack of pet food !! 5 credits only.


saltiest1
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12 Jul 2011 8:40pm
uuggghhh!!!! way too many words in this thread.


why dont we settle on a bit of both. i find it hard to believe that the big bang, and an infinate number of chance happenings resulted in a massive number of mutations and mixes of elements making people and everything else including the exact postition of earth and the gasses and so on etc........

there i said it. time for pictures of boobs please doggie (.)(.)
FormulaNova
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12 Jul 2011 7:00pm
Mobydisc said...

Anyone watched Idiocracy?




Watched it? I bought it as I think it was not stocked by any video shop I could find.

Sadly, its probably true as more 'uneducated' people go forth and multiply lots and lots of 'educated' people save their money and have minimal children.

Lucky for me that I don't think education has that much to do with intelligence, and who cares if the future population are dumb anyway?


DUDE
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12 Jul 2011 9:24pm



Throughout history, breasts have inspired, confounded and entertained. But how much do we really know about the development of these majestic, fleshy orbs? What follows is a helpful timeline highlighting great moments in the glorious history of boobs.

The development of human breasts is necessitated by evolution. Evolution clearly knows what it's doing.
1.6 million B.C.


30 BC
Hot Egyptian ruler Cleopatra is bitten in the boob by an asp. Long line forms to suck out the venom.
Intoxicated, vision-impaired pirates inadvertently discover nipple piercing.
1680


1776
This year marks the first recorded use of the term "booby hatch" for an insane asylum. What this has to do with boobs we have no idea, but we do not discriminate when it comes to boobs.
The first Mardi Gras parade takes place in New Orleans, consisting of one float, some cheap beads, and innumerable bare bosoms.
1839


1885
The Statue of Liberty arrives in New York Harbor possessing the largest boobs seen in America up to that point.
The T-shirt finds widespread acceptance. Oddly, wet T-shirt contests don't catch on until the latter part of the century.
1917


1922
The Maidenform company is founded, starting the convention of naming cup sizes A through D. The practice of "bra stuffing" quickly renders this measurement system meaningless.
The Grand Tetons are named by French trappers. Grand Tetons means "big boobs." It's the last time in history the French showed good judgment.
1929


1937
The Hindenburg bursts into flames and crashes. Historians note that, in retrospect, the Hindenburg looked a lot like a giant, floating boob.
Duct tape is created to keep moisture out of military ammunition cases during World War II. In time, it is used to create the illusion of more cleavage, mostly by beauty pageant contestants.
1941


1943
Howard Hughes designs cantilevered bra for Jane Russell to wear in "The Outlaw." Giant boobs have been involved in making movies ever since.
Dolly Parton is born in Locust Ridge, Tennessee. Big boob jokes go mainstream.
1946


1953
The first issue of "Playboy" hits newsstands, offering the world a wide variety of boobs. That is, if you consider "big" and "airbrushed" the same thing as "a wide variety."
The first breast augmentation surgery is performed. Deemed to be first undeniable proof there is a God.
1962


1963
Bra burning becomes a symbol of the women's liberation movement. Unleashed hooters somehow make the women's liberation movement less annoying.
Farrah Fawcett-Majors poses for a poster in her swimsuit, inspiring bad hairstyles, anorexia and palm callouses around the globe.
1976


1977
"Three's Company" debuts. Suzanne Somers' nipples become first celebrity body parts in history to demand their own publicist.
Phoebe Cates removes her bathing suit top in "Fast Times at Ridgemont High." The price of Kleenex stock surges.
1982


1983
The Hooters restaurant chain is launched, making lecherous ogling a "family-friendly" activity.
Madonna dons a conical bra for her "Blond Ambition" tour, accomplishing the impossible. She manages to make boobs boring.
1990


1992
Pamela Anderson debuts on "Baywatch." Boobs reach an unprecedented level of popularity.
The Wonderbra takes the fashion world by storm. Women's rights activists present passionate arguments asserting the bra encourages men to objectify women. Men are so distracted, all they hear is "blah, blah, blah."
1994


1995
"Seinfeld" episode airs featuring the "Bro," a bra for men. Inexplicably, John Madden, Pavarotti and Marlon Brando are unavailable for comment.
The video game "Tomb Raider" debuts, featuring top-heavy adventurer Lara Croft. Gives a whole new meaning to the term "handling one's joystick."
1996


1997
In the popular "Austin Powers" movie, Fembots use breasts as weapons. In actuality, women have been doing this since 1.6 million BC
A Florida man sues a strip club claiming exotic dancer Tawny Peaks' 60-inch HHH bosom caused him to suffer whiplash. Defense lawyers are paid with a large stack of one dollar bills reeking of cheap perfume.
1998


1999
Pamela Anderson has her 36DD breast implants removed, returning her to a 36C. The male population of the planet collectively utters, "Whuh?"
A Brazilian woman is shot during a confrontation between police and drug dealers and is saved by her silicone breast implants. Implants are no longer just visually appealing, but are also a "personal safety measure."
2003


2003
With his delusional antics, the Iraqi Information Minister puts Lady Liberty to shame and becomes the biggest boob anyone's ever seen.
Janet Jackson suffers a "wardrobe malfunction" at Super Bowl XXXVIII. America has yet to fully recover from the "fallout."

2004


Have We Forgotten an Important Moment in Boob History? Let Us Know!

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GreenPat
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12 Jul 2011 9:31pm
^^^ I think we've made the right choice in not killing off this thread, so far.

Still, some borderline material...
busterwa
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12 Jul 2011 7:49pm
Hey macro i met this chick of the internet (last year internet **** site) once and i went over there (before i had the misses) and she wanted to drip hot wax on my bollocks and stab me in the sack with hypodermic needles. True story them pictures make me cringe in the fetal position.
Macroscien
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12 Jul 2011 9:52pm
Regarding boobs and evolution.
What the ugly future for us mens !!

It is clear that:

Dogs has 6 boobs at least ( sorry I didn't count) and similar amount of offspring at time.
Humans still have two boobs, but enforced family model prefer 1 descendant.

Does it means that futuristic evolved women come with only 1 boob ??

What the ugly future !! That is worst nightmare much worst that global warming or nuclear annihilation You will be grateful for our PM to has all it all right, forget this stupid tax and everything ....




doggie
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12 Jul 2011 7:57pm
GreenPat said...

GalahOnTheBay said...

^^^^ Never mind the pubs, imagine the crowds at your local kite spots!


I was talking about my local kite spot. I never mentioned pubs. You, sir, might just be a dipsomaniac.


I spy sum admin lurvin
busterwa
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12 Jul 2011 7:59pm
people with blue green eyes white complexion from the icecaps.
people who are black and have hazel eyes originated from climate center of equator?
there is no disputing evolution.

-You can tell alot by looking at appearance.
ok no black dudes come from iceland..
no white people come from jamaica etc.
people with blue eyes white complexion come from cold climates.
black people with hazel eyes come from warmer climates.
do a personal survey.

Im sure god created white people with blue eyes to be out in 40 ' sun all day there is no difference in race colour just evolution.
Elroy Jetson
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12 Jul 2011 8:03pm
A minority of my religious friends persistently argue over the 'evils' of science.
They believe all science is bad. So by comparison this makes their beliefs good.

I came to the conclusion that it wasn't the fault of Science. They will always find something to be against. This is because it is much easier for someone to project and blame one's own bad feelings and emotions on another group of people rather than confront their own failings.

This is why people are united during times of war when fighting a common enemy.
doggie
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12 Jul 2011 8:13pm
(.).) .................
busterwa
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12 Jul 2011 8:14pm
Hello greenpat ;-) post aint gona last 10 min......
White or black we are all equal .... i think the common enemy now is the Muslim society This evolutionary thesis was proved long ago.
There religion is not willing for acceptance. this whole black and white evolutionary evolution argument is irrelevant.
were in there 21st century now. This should be excepted. its a shame specific religions such as Muslim let people down.
the fight of evolution was fought many years ago barns its old. The biggest problem facing evolution now is MUSLIM & terrorism

Anyways try telling your try theory of evolution to a Muslim barnz.
Macroscien
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12 Jul 2011 10:26pm
busterwa said...

Hello greenpat ;-) post aint gona last 10 min......
White or black we are all equal .... i think the common enemy now is the Muslim society This evolutionary thesis was proved long ago.
There religion is not willing for acceptance. this whole black and white evolutionary evolution argument is irrelevant.
were in there 21st century now. This should be excepted. its a shame specific religions such as Muslim let people down.
the fight of evolution was fought many years ago barns its old. The biggest problem facing evolution now is MUSLIM & terrorism


Just by interest, no offence. Very important question. How many tits has dolphin?
If only one that mean is higher on evolutional ledder then we are.

I guess Muslims are beyond any competition since theirs women don't have any at all.


Mobydisc
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12 Jul 2011 10:33pm
its impossible for mammals to have odd numbers of teets. They are all symmetrical.

Not all Muslim women dress in tents. Its only those from backwards communities where the head men have been look at camels' and donkey's arses for the last 2000 years that force their women to dress like freak shows.

barn
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12 Jul 2011 8:38pm
Macroscien said...


Humans still have two boobs, but enforced family model prefer 1 descendant.

Does it means that futuristic evolved women come with only 1 boob ??




How common is if to have more than one breast feeding child at a time? wouldn't worry about it.

we also have two kidneys, we only need one, symmetry..

Boobs are an interesting evolutionary human quirk, no other mammals develop boobs before pregnancy. It's the equivalent of teh peacocks tail, or the hump on a camel, its shows status and proof of fitness.. You can imagine a male Homo looking for a big woman who could keep the little tacker well fed.

It's sexual selection, big part of evolution.. Mad props evolution..

Humans are also the only mammals where childbirth is life threatening, unintelligent design.. Big hips make for a safer delivery.. So an early male would also look for the hourglass figure.

Anyway, a big question is why males can't deliver milk, wouldn't a child with two breast feeding parents have an advantage? maybe MAD has the answer..

busterwa
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12 Jul 2011 8:40pm
As i Christan don't believe in Adam and Eve and the bible i believe in evolution. Im willing to except my views and state that the bible created a set of values and beliefs that were meant to lived buy to create reflect upon a higher meaningful life to reflect upon in times of trauma and misfortune.
This is a religious debate.
Your evolution debacle has amear stated the obvious.We dont require any more proof. This proof is conclusive
What do you hope to achieve posting this? Most people are more than aware of evolution.
SomeOtherGuy
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12 Jul 2011 10:45pm
If there was ever any evidence for chemtrails, this thread would have to be it. What have you people been sniffing???
DUDE
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12 Jul 2011 11:14pm
Macroscien said...

Regarding boobs and evolution.










Macroscien
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12 Jul 2011 11:20pm
DUDE said...

Macroscien said...

Regarding boobs and evolution.









well done , Dude
You can envisage future evolutionary improvements to only half of the mankind?
What about another half?
Forget about tits.....let me think .. if quantity could substitute quality ( size?)

Yeeh, I am almost sure as progressive society will equip evolutionary male in two of those... to double the fun... pretty much nature just seems to stopped half way since half of required supporting machinery is already in place .[}:)]



saltiest1
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13 Jul 2011 12:27am
ive seen too many of these evolution debates and they all have 1 thing incommon. no definate answer at the end.
Elroy Jetson
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12 Jul 2011 10:56pm
The religious anti-evolution talk is puzzling.

I would have though nuclear physics would be much more offensive.

Bits of the universe that god created long ago can simply disappear and get converted into energy. E=mc2.

Macroscien
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13 Jul 2011 1:09am
How long it took existing Homo Sapiens to colonize whole planet and overlie (suppress) all other creatures? Few thousands years or million years ? That is all ? In that short period of time?
Lets for a moment imagine that by the freak of nature (evolutionary freak or our own human ingenuity freak
-doesn't really matter -
both creationists and evolutionist are satisfied) new creature is born that is twice as smart as we are
( say YOU are, left ME alone here )
How long it takes for this new Super-humanoid to suppress and overtake our 20 billion population ?
With IQ 250 to start with....
I guees 200 years , max.
So lets take next 90 years to appear one , plus next 200 and we don't have to worry about anything on this planet anymore.

The Earth is in good (new) hands now

How many hands ?_ I don't even try to guess - but I found myself that at least four will be handy





pierrec45
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13 Jul 2011 3:06am
busterwa said...

Hey macro i met this chick of the internet (last year internet **** site) once and i went over there (before i had the misses) and she wanted to drip hot wax on my bollocks and stab me in the sack with hypodermic needles. True story them pictures make me cringe in the fetal position.

Bit too close to the bone, huh ?
So, enjoyed it ?
Trant
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13 Jul 2011 9:45am
Macroscien said...
How long it takes for this new Super-humanoid to suppress and overtake our 20 billion population ?


Tyson had a very funny answer to this



Summary :
We share 98+% of our DNA with chimps, yet we laugh at the accomplishment of chimps. (Isn't that monkey funny!)
If the difference between us and chimps is all good, then we're 1% better than chimps yet look at how we treat chimps.
Now if an Alien is 1% better than us, do you think they'll treat us any different than we treat chimps? i.e. a source of amusement?
barn
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13 Jul 2011 8:33am
Macroscien said...
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Lets for a moment imagine that by the freak of nature (evolutionary freak or our own human ingenuity freak

How long it takes for this new Super-humanoid to suppress and overtake our 20 billion population ?



An evolutionary freak is usually greatly deformed. The greater the random mutation, the greater the chance it is a bad mutation.. So at no point will a Chimp or frog will give birth to a more intelligent new super species that will overtake us.. All natural offspring look pretty much identical to their parents.
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13 Jul 2011 10:35am




barn
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13 Jul 2011 9:19am
^^I'm always amazed by that bottom graph. Agriculture, industrial revolution, and the development of vaccines and antibiotics cause that spike,( not mutants).. No population spikes around the year zero, tells us that nothing new was learnt..
theDoctor
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13 Jul 2011 11:21am
Ados said...

Bullocks. if your 'god' was so great and loving, why would he let little children and babies suffer. what lessons do they learn when starving in some ****ty refugee camp in Africa? if there is a god, he has failed miserably.



god doesn't do that man does, man is failing miserably.

the only true evolution is spiritual consciousness

a religious man could never understand because he is a slave to his doctrine

a scientific man could never understand because it requires an element of faith

how do I know this....?

in the mid 90's in lombok while I was eating mushrooms a horse told me

and we all know horses can't lie
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13 Jul 2011 9:23am

Today's entry on the Least Popular Greatest Discovery in Human History is, a demonstration of the fact of evolution in controlled laboratory conditions. This is a royal flush..

The cornerstone of good science is being able to test your theory over and over again. In repeatable, controlled, conditions and achieve results that match your theory.

The following can't do justice to the greatness of this experiment. And rather than write in my own words, it's copied from wiki, change of tactic..

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment

The Experiment. The E. coli long-term evolution experiment is an ongoing study in experimental evolution led by Richard Lenski that has been tracking genetic changes in 12 initially nearly identical populations of asexual Escherichia coli bacteria since 24 February 1988.[1] The populations reached the milestone of 50,000 generations in February 2010.

Since the experiment's inception, Lenski and his colleagues have reported a wide array of genetic changes; some evolutionary adaptations have occurred in all 12 populations, while others have only appeared in one or a few populations. One particularly striking adaption was the evolution of a strain of E. coli that was able to grow on citric acid in the growth media.


For comparison 50,000 generations in humans takes us back about a million years. Not much, but plenty of time for evolutionary change.

Basically, the E.coli were put into 12 separate beakers full of food source, glucose, and other food sources that E.coli cannot eat. If you put Bacteria in a beaker with food the population growth is exponential, until all the food runs out. At the end of every day, a drop of the surviving bacteria, are put into a new flask with exactly the same conditions.. This is done with 12 separate, initially identical strains.. Perfect environments for evolution..

In these conditions, evolutionary theory predicts that any bacteria that is better adapted to utilize a fluctuating food source, bonanza, starvation, bonanza, starvation, will out compete its fellows. And thus be the only ones transported into the next beaker..



Results. In the early years of the experiment, there were several common evolutionary developments shared by the populations. The mean fitness of each population, as measured against the ancestor strain, increased-rapidly at first, but leveling off after close to 20,000 generations (at which point they grew about 70% faster than the ancestor strain). All populations evolved larger cell volumes and lower maximum population densities, and all became specialized for living on glucose


But then, in 2008, this **** just got real..


In 2008, Lenski and his collaborators reported on a particularly important adaptation that occurred in one of the twelve populations: the bacteria evolved the ability to utilize citrate as a source of energy. Wild type E. coli cannot transport citrate across the cell membrane to the cell interior (where it could be incorporated into the citric acid cycle) when oxygen is present. The consequent lack of growth on citrate under oxic conditions is considered a defining characteristic of the species that has been a valuable means of differentiating E. coli from pathogenic Salmonella. Around generation 33,127, the experimenters noticed a dramatically expanded population-size in one of the samples; they found that there were clones in this population that could grow on the citrate included in the growth medium to permit iron acquisition. Examination of samples of the population frozen at earlier time points led to the discovery that a citrate-using variant had evolved in the population at some point between generations 31,000 and 31,500. They used a number of genetic markers unique to this population to exclude the possibility that the citrate-using E. coli were contaminants. They also found that the ability to use citrate could spontaneously re-evolve in populations of genetically pure clones isolated from earlier time points in the population's history. Such re-evolution of citrate utilization was never observed in clones isolated from before generation 20,000. Even in those clones that were able to re-evolve citrate utilization, the function showed a rate of occurrence on the order of once per trillion cells. The authors interpret these results as indicating that the evolution of citrate utilization in this one population depended on an earlier, perhaps non-adaptive "potentiating" mutation that had the effect of increasing the rate of mutation to citrate utilization to an accessible level


You can see the cloudy culture in the middle, it's cloudy because of the Bacteria ar having a citrate orgy..


Game, set, match, just one of the 12 strains developed the ability to eat citrate, all on it's own.. It's like us being able to digest tree bark...
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13 Jul 2011 9:25am
(.).).) boobs.....
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