poor relative said...
Blah blah blah,... Why should the fact that your born in a particular country in a particular political environment preclude you from health care, education, secure housing employment..........
Simply because the political and religious environment which their ancestors have left them is incapable of providing the same benefits as the environment that our ancestors left us. And yet they cling to it tenaciously and refuse to accept the obvious fact, that it is serving them very poorly and in all likelihood will continue to do so.
Look at the mess England is in because it ignored for a long time this very fact. Immigrant groups are now in sufficient numbers in that country that the original culture of the land is being swamped by the introduced culture of the new inhabitants. And this is the very same culture that gave rise to, and cultivated the system and conditions they fled, supposedly in terror. ???
...and why shouldn't western societies accommodate these populations that we have taken advantage of for so long.
Western societies taking advantage?
Nowhere near the advantage that their own people have taken of them.
There have been billions and billions of dollars ploughed into those countries over the past decades trying to drag them into the 21st century. Most of it is syphoned off by the fat bloated leaches at he top while their own people, of the same blood and religion live in "abject poverty" as you so rightly said, under their very noses. It's criminal.
It is happening right now in a big way in Afghanistan. Fat bloated leaches building small enclaves of mansions from the very money that is sent in to rebuild the country, while their own people live in ruins. IT IS CRIMINAL!
Same in the middle east. All the umpteen billions of oil dollars that have poured into that region over the last 50 years and it has been wasted on palaces and other extravagances while large proportions of their own people live as beggars.
The rest of it is poured into armaments so they can go and beat the crap out of their neighbours, of the same culture and religion as themselves. ???
It makes me angry every time I see documentaries on it.
And then they say it's because they are being mistreated by the west.
And some of us repeat the line. To accept responsibility for the mess they are in is just excusing bad behaviour on their part. Stop doing it!
If their culture and religion was so great, why hasn't it managed a more even distribution of their wealth?
Why doesn't it provide the "health care, education, secure housing employment.........." that you mention?
I do not want to live in a Muslim country. If I did, there are plenty to choose from without converting this country into one.
The people that come here pass through a number of Muslim countries to get here, the last one being Indonesia.
They are safe in Indonesia. They are not escaping torture and terror when they leave Indonesia to come here. At that point they are simply looking for an economic benefit, which obviously exists here.
In my view, they are welcome so long as they leave their political and religious beliefs at the border. It should be a condition of entry.
Illegal immigration has a long long history in Australia just ask the unconscious black fella in your local park how Immigration has helped his community.
Exactly. Excellent example. Look what happened to them simply because they weren't organised enough to have a proper border protection and immigration policy.
Don't we learn anything from that?
I don't have any gripe with any Muslim immigrant personally. I have no doubt most of them are decent law abiding people who I would be happy to associate with.
However, I do have a problem with them collectively on the basis that I strongly believe that when the numbers build up, as they surely will with an open door policy, we will in 50 years or so, be a Muslim country.
Their is ample evidence around to show me that this would NOT be a good thing.
Show me one country with a Muslim/Christian mix that does not have internal cultural conflicts.
Do you really think Australians could handle this any better? I don't think so.
WHO!!!
