Select to expand quoteI been running set of HA1040, 55 fuselage and the HA220 stab for half a year and finally got it dailed. Dan of KiteAddiction (Myaree, Perth) passed me a MA1000 + MA850 for couple of days to play with and here is my take of the MA1000 first ..
MA1000 vs HA1040
.. with my Hover 60L
I still ride like a windsurfer hhh
.. MA1000 boost amazing jumps
... found the MA1000 provided more lift and ran it 10mm further back than my HA1040. Top end I suspect is a little off the HA. Pump to flight somehow maybe a little bit more effort than the HA. Turns on a dime on a patch of swell .. boost jumps like a jack rabbit on speed, it projects vertically almost if pushed hard. What I liked best was its tractor like toe-side upwind over all kinds of swell, chops and even small breaking waves, never got thrown off - I suspect is due to less twist/moment from the much shorter wing span. Glide off a swell is fine, a little slower than the HA1040 but its easy to pump the foil back up when losing height on a glide. Its a super fun wing to play around on small waves as it carves super tight and loose.
So, that is just my opinion and can't wait to test the MA850 when the next 20knt+ session comes along over here. Cheers.
@windyaction (instagram)
Great review .. Thanks.
Do you know what sizes the Naish MA (mid aspect) foils are coming in?
Love this shot.. 
Select to expand quoteDavidJohn said..
Great review .. Thanks.
Do you know what sizes the Naish MA (mid aspect) foils are coming in?
Love this shot..
Thanks. I have my hands on the MA1000 and MA850 (hope to test soon), there is also a MA1200 from what I have seen on the foilingmagazine review. 
.. I think this concept is great multirole weapons for a progressing winger who likes playing in small swells except for someone seeking max glide or pump (which should go higher AR HA wing). Only my opinion 
Select to expand quotehilly said..
Is that a Naish HA wing???
Hi Hilly .. yes LouD said it .. this one is the MA1000, as compared vs my own HA1040 ..
.. the MA is also thicker and found it providing more lift but less glide than the HA .. are still riding Armstrong mate?
Select to expand quoteLouD said..
With the 1040 and 220 stab on the 55, do you shim the stab?
I am still riding with a 1 degree tail shim (-ve? i.e. for more lift) for the HA1040 + 220, as initially I was having some problems bumping up to smaller wind chops for a glide but now I can do without the shim but kept it as it gets me up and going with less takeoff 'runway' and essential when stuck between some reefs or sandbars hhh .. did not find much difference to top end with the shim. Hope info helps.
Select to expand quoteGrantmac said..
Reminds me of the Starboard MA stuff as well with the squared tips etc.
are those windsurf freestyle fins? I had some weird stubby ones back in those days
Select to expand quotestanley71 said..are still riding Armstrong mate?
GoFoil now
Select to expand quoteDavidJohn said..
Great review .. Thanks.
Do you know what sizes the Naish MA (mid aspect) foils are coming in?
Love this shot..
They have 850,1000, 1200 and 1600 www.goldcoastkitesurfing.com.au/product/naish-foils-s26-jet-ma-front-wings/
I thought they were going to be a great foil I just changed from Naish to Armstrong back in January which I am not disappointed about, however just could wait for the new MA foils.
Select to expand quotestanley71 said..Grantmac said..
Reminds me of the Starboard MA stuff as well with the squared tips etc.
are those windsurf freestyle fins? I had some weird stubby ones back in those days
Their E and X type medium aspect foils.
Select to expand quotehilly said..stanley71 said..are still riding Armstrong mate?
GoFoil now
you been talking to Richard Jamo? 
Select to expand quoteGrantmac said..stanley71 said..Grantmac said..
Reminds me of the Starboard MA stuff as well with the squared tips etc.
are those windsurf freestyle fins? I had some weird stubby ones back in those days
Their E and X type medium aspect foils.
main difference I think is the MA are flat as. These are shots of the MA850 (as I returned the 1000)
.. still waiting for 18+knts and some swells
Select to expand quotehilly said..
Is that a Naish HA wing???
Just checked specs AR=4.4, so a proper Medium Aspect?
I did try the MA850 today, 15-20knts 4m wing on the river, got up ok as I was using the long fuselage. Glide much less than the HA on small wind bumps .. will post up a proper write-up when I get the MA850 into some swells, hopefully this weekend
HA1040 vs MA850
I am waiting for the North MA wings to be released. I think a MA profile is probably the future for most of us
Select to expand quotenimo1972 said..
I am waiting for the North MA wings to be released. I think a MA profile is probably the future for most of us
the Naish MA are 4.0 AR but I think what really makes them behave a bit different is the shape, just somehow very playful in small swells and easy to plough upwind over white water etc. I still yet to test the smaller MA850 due to lack of proper wind + swell conditions but next week could make that happen
The MA's are the perfect mid-road between the Std JET and the JET HA's.
As you would expect with a lower aspect foil, the glide is not quite on par with the like HA, but where they excel is in their control and ability to keep working even with 1/2 breeched. You can turn these babies harder than anything I have seen, the are super punchy and ready to pop up at a moments notice.
A controlled top end speed allows you to ride closer to the wave/energy source, and engage more with actual swell and wave for real wave riding not mild "S" turns out on the flat.
Pump is better than you'd think for a MA, but of coarse not on par with the HA's. This said at my 90+kg I can double and triple dip the 1200MA, and more with the 1600MA. I haven't used the 2000MA a lot yet as the swells have been pretty powerful. I did a D-Winger on it and was very surprised by how well it coped with Downwinding.
All the MA's can ride incredibly slow when needed without stalling. They also re-laminate very fast after jumps, sometimes resulting in a no board touch down on large jumps when you fluke a clean landing.
The best way to describe the MA is to say it is like putting on the traction control and lift assist on the HA. Great for freestyle, jumping, actually wave riding / surfing, prone foiling, Kiting on the 850 is crazy fun. The 2000MA is grunty and it is pretty cool getting that much area under 95cm of span allowing you to ride shorter masts and still turn hard.
The 850, 1000, 1200 and 2000MA are all AR4.4 whist the 1600MA is AR4.1.
Here's Naish's blurb,
"
The all-new MA Foil design marries the proven DNA of the successful Naish HA series with a medium aspect ratio ('MA') planform. The reduced span results in faster, more responsive turning while the global geometry delivers the perfect balance of early takeoff, roll stability, and pitch control at speed. The truncated wingtip concept provides the maximum possible glide for the reduced span, making manoeuvres effortless while significantly reducing drag for higher top speeds - the bluntness of the tip is also an important safety feature. The result is a foil that is both easy to ride and yet offers top performance for riders pushing the limits with jumping and manoeuvres.
"
Available now in all sizes at your local Naish Dealer in S26 configuration and the S26 C35 and C100 masts or in the S27 configuration with the new Mast and Fuselage connection with masts in Alloy, C35 and C100.
All MA wings are fully interchangeable with all Naish systems.
Get out there and give them a try, they'll definitely blow your mind at doing what they do!
Ride safe,
JB
This was my first time on the new MA foil and I was amazed at the ease that it came up on foil.. For a foil almost half the size that I normally use (2140) I felt totally at home without any of the pitchy/twitchy feelings that I get with the same size HA foils.. Love the safety aspect of these MA's.
ok, I finally got to test the MA850 in some proper swell (because it's really a wave riding foil right?). Conditions : 18-25kts cross-shore, swell 2.5m/17s side on reef (Lancelin South Passage). Very fun and playful in small swells, bombing down along a head-high wave is rock steady and a tad slower than my usual HA1040. Jumps easily (I took put my rear straps as was tweaking my rear foot positioning for pump/glide). Lift for pump take off is similar to the HA1040 but had to point slightly bit down-wind, stall speed is really low .. I could pull off really slowish tight jibes. Just a few shots of the MA850 in action. Tks. Stanley
I have 3 sec clip of quick jibe with the MA850 but no idea how to attach it here.
Sorry for the dumb question, but is the MA foil easier or harder to tack & gybe than a HA?
MA turns better but doesn't glide as far.. But can it also go slower without stalling?
Select to expand quoteMHSA said..
Sorry for the dumb question, but is the MA foil easier or harder to tack & gybe than a HA?
MA turns better but doesn't glide as far.. But can it also go slower without stalling?
If I compare the MA1000 to the HA1040, I feel the MA1000 can jibe tighter and slower. More lift but loses out on glide and top end. Sorry - never learnt to tack as jibing on a wingboard is so tight hhh. I would say the MA1000 is easier to use than the HA1040, very much so in swells. I uploaded a short MA850 (sorry dun have one for the MA1000) jibe clip ..
Now you've got me thinking..what if I cut down my 2140HA or 1800HA which I don't use much anymore? Hmmmm...
Select to expand quoteShlogger said..
Now you've got me thinking..what if I cut down my 2140HA or 1800HA which I don't use much anymore? Hmmmm...
Think it will definitely loosen up and super easy in the surf but you will loose a lot of lift, so the 2140 > 1800 / 1400 depends on how maniac a butcher you are
Select to expand quotestanley71 said..Shlogger said..
Now you've got me thinking..what if I cut down my 2140HA or 1800HA which I don't use much anymore? Hmmmm...
Think it will definitely loosen up and super easy in the surf but you will loose a lot of lift, so the 2140 > 1800 / 1400 depends on how maniac a butcher you are
I've cut the stabs down but maybe I'll just pick the 1000MA up instead. ;). You can take it off, but you can put it back on.
Select to expand quoteShlogger said..stanley71 said..Shlogger said..
Now you've got me thinking..what if I cut down my 2140HA or 1800HA which I don't use much anymore? Hmmmm...
Think it will definitely loosen up and super easy in the surf but you will loose a lot of lift, so the 2140 > 1800 / 1400 depends on how maniac a butcher you are
I've cut the stabs down but maybe I'll just pick the 1000MA up instead. ;). You can take it off, but you can put it back on.
Agree! .. and chopping a HA probably will not get the result you desire as the MA has a much thicker foil vs the HA and chord is also almost constant for much the width of the foil.
Select to expand quotestanley71 said..Shlogger said..stanley71 said..Shlogger said..
Now you've got me thinking..what if I cut down my 2140HA or 1800HA which I don't use much anymore? Hmmmm...[/
Think it will definitely loosen up and super easy in the surf but you will loose a lot of lift, so the 2140 > 1800 / 1400 depends on how maniac a butcher you are
I've cut the stabs down but maybe I'll just pick the 1000MA up instead. ;). You can take it off, but you can put it back on.
Agree! .. and chopping a HA probably will not get the result you desire as the MA has a much thicker foil vs the HA and chord is also almost constant for much the width of the foil.
That was foremost in my head when I was sizing the 1800 up for a chop. In the photos it does appear to have a thicker higher lift foil section. I know they bring a hacksaw to the beach when they do testing.
" I know they bring a hacksaw to the beach when they do testing."
How do you know that?
Select to expand quoteDavidJohn said..
" I know they bring a hacksaw to the beach when they do testing."
How do you know that?
Friends..
P.S. Hacksaw, 40 & 80 grit battery operated sander, couple sheets of wet sand various grits. Let's R&D. ;)
