Select to expand quoteDspace said..
A little side humor;
I can always tell the long time windsurfers who've finally learned the basics of wing foiling after a long learning curve. They will ride for some huge distance in one direction, do one long sweeping jibe, switch feet, the ride for a huge distance in the other direction and then repeat. This will go on for at least 45 min without wavering at all from the prescribed program. Gotta luv it
(it's all good if you're having fun!!)
Guilty as charged.
Select to expand quotewarwickl said..
Well way back I windsurfed, then l kite surfed, then kite foiled and now windwing foil reasonably jybing in both directions.
I wonder how I would go windfoiling?
You'd be windfoiling like a rock star no problem. In my experience the windfoil jibe is much harder than a wingfoil jibe, but you'd get it pretty qucikly. I feel kitefoiling is the most challenging of the three, however, this may be because it was the one I started with when I transitioned to foiling.
Look where you're going, not at the wing
Don't switch your feet, start to get comfortable riding switch stance (it feels weird but you will get used to it)
Look where you're going, not at the wing
Make sure you're going fast to keep momentum, I didn't start hitting my jybes until I went to a more nimble foil BSC890 from BSC1060
Finally,
Look where you're going, not at the wing...
Smile, have fun. Remember, if you can windsurf, you can do anything!
DC
Select to expand quoteDcharlton said..
Look where you're going, not at the wing
Don't switch your feet, start to get comfortable riding switch stance (it feels weird but you will get used to it)
Look where you're going, not at the wing
Make sure you're going fast to keep momentum, I didn't start hitting my jybes until I went to a more nimble foil BSC890 from BSC1060
Finally,
Look where you're going, not at the wing...
Smile, have fun. Remember, if you can windsurf, you can do anything!
DC
I rigged a big spring to a wood dowel hanging from a roof rafter to practice switch while standing on a Bosu half ball for dry land twisted switch toe side conditioning, feels like a good way to get use to it toe side. Digging this thread and thank you all for the positive vibes....especially...Dcharlton..." if you can windsurf, you can fo anything".... pumps me up!
I too came from windsurfing. Took me about 2 and a half months before I could gybe my wing with no problems.
The thing I wasn't doing was looking at where I wanted to end up. Once I focused on looking in the other direction I was able to snag a few gybes.
Once you've managed to do 1 or 2 the rest will probably come in only a few sessions.
Good luck Amigo!
Select to expand quoteStewbo said..
I too came from windsurfing. Took me about 2 and a half months before I could gybe my wing with no problems.
The thing I wasn't doing was looking at where I wanted to end up. Once I focused on looking in the other direction I was able to snag a few gybes.
Once you've managed to do 1 or 2 the rest will probably come in only a few sessions.
Good luck Amigo!
I am not looking to where i am going. Good tip. Reminds me of the ahah moment when i finally learned a fast tack on windsurfer...look too the horizon where your headed next.
I see too many beginners only going up wind. The best way to learn the foil is to turn around and go downwind for a long distance and depower the wing as much as possible. This forces one to ride the foil correctly with even weight distribution, a slightly more open stance, and with one's feet closer together. Have fun with S turns, pumping the foil with your feet, and getting your foil close to the surface where the wind swell is. These skills will eventually help you glide through the gybe.
Hi Sailwave.
I'm the same. Windsurfing for 3+decades. Would go into the wing gybe and would to change feet mid gybe (despite telling myself - don't change feet, don't change feet) only to destabilise the whole setup and get ejected mid gybe. Could not get my head around NOT swapping feet mid gybe because that's what I've always done windsurfing.
So I learned how to ride toeside first, then go into the gybe and exist heelside. Learning to ride toeside for me was time consuming (took many sessions), but the best way for me to overcome the mental barrier. To wing gybe, entering toeside and exiting heelside is dead easy.
My tip on learning how to switch feet from heelside to toeside is find flat water. Plenty of wind without being massively overpowered. Use as long a fuse as you can to provide lots of pitch stability. Shuffle your feet close together so they're maybe 10cm apart but balanced over the lift point of the board (still heelside). Quickly move back foot to next to the front foot and then immediately the old front foot to where the back foot was (now toeside). Shuffle your feet gradually apart (still toeside). Then enter the gybe. I found that you can rock your body weight over to the heel side and roll through the gybe with no mental alarms saying "time to switch feet". Exiting heelside feels really smooth and not awkward at all.
Select to expand quoteCliveO said..
Also an old time windsurfer that used to swap my feet half way through my windsurfing gybe.
Couldn't get used to the idea of riding toe side after gybing, so learnt to swap my feet right before gybing, going in both directions.
It was not easy, but now I am realising well worth the effort.
I can, but hate riding toe side, it's uncomfortable and not as efficient in going up wind.
Wow, the windsurfer in me sees this as ideal and I have thought about it on my own....but I have crazy brain to body mechanics blockage to even imagine staying on foil while switching, let alone right before entering a jibe. Hats off to you for mastering that one first!
Select to expand quotemartyj4 said..
Hi Sailwave.
I'm the same. Windsurfing for 3+decades. Would go into the wing gybe and would to change feet mid gybe (despite telling myself - don't change feet, don't change feet) only to destabilise the whole setup and get ejected mid gybe. Could not get my head around NOT swapping feet mid gybe because that's what I've always done windsurfing.
So I learned how to ride toeside first, then go into the gybe and exist heelside. Learning to ride toeside for me was time consuming (took many sessions), but the best way for me to overcome the mental barrier. To wing gybe, entering toeside and exiting heelside is dead easy.
My tip on learning how to switch feet from heelside to toeside is find flat water. Plenty of wind without being massively overpowered. Use as long a fuse as you can to provide lots of pitch stability. Shuffle your feet close together so they're maybe 10cm apart but balanced over the lift point of the board (still heelside). Quickly move back foot to next to the front foot and then immediately the old front foot to where the back foot was (now toeside). Shuffle your feet gradually apart (still toeside). Then enter the gybe. I found that you can rock your body weight over to the heel side and roll through the gybe with no mental alarms saying "time to switch feet". Exiting heelside feels really smooth and not awkward at all.
I am geting the feeling this may be my best chance. The mental blockage is huge, but the actual attempts at exiting jibe toe side / switch have been so futile. I have 40+ years of windsurfing programming to deprogram in wing foiling and a year of attempting to exit the jibe toeside with zero completes is nauseating.
Select to expand quotesailwave said..martyj4 said..
Hi Sailwave.
I'm the same. Windsurfing for 3+decades. Would go into the wing gybe and would to change feet mid gybe (despite telling myself - don't change feet, don't change feet) only to destabilise the whole setup and get ejected mid gybe. Could not get my head around NOT swapping feet mid gybe because that's what I've always done windsurfing.
So I learned how to ride toeside first, then go into the gybe and exist heelside. Learning to ride toeside for me was time consuming (took many sessions), but the best way for me to overcome the mental barrier. To wing gybe, entering toeside and exiting heelside is dead easy.
My tip on learning how to switch feet from heelside to toeside is find flat water. Plenty of wind without being massively overpowered. Use as long a fuse as you can to provide lots of pitch stability. Shuffle your feet close together so they're maybe 10cm apart but balanced over the lift point of the board (still heelside). Quickly move back foot to next to the front foot and then immediately the old front foot to where the back foot was (now toeside). Shuffle your feet gradually apart (still toeside). Then enter the gybe. I found that you can rock your body weight over to the heel side and roll through the gybe with no mental alarms saying "time to switch feet". Exiting heelside feels really smooth and not awkward at all.
I am geting the feeling this may be my best chance. The mental blockage is huge, but the actual attempts at exiting jibe toe side / switch have been so futile. I have 40+ years of windsurfing programming to deprogram in wing foiling and a year of attempting to exit the jibe toeside with zero completes is nauseating.
It will just click one day. I went thru this frustration on my good tack (15 sessions). I thought it would be years before the other tack, because it took over 2 years for me to start planing out of winfsurfing gybes on my bad tack after I had started to do so on my good side... But it was only another 10 sessions. Click and it happens. Then switching feet will be your headache (I still can't do it without a momentary touchdown).
Select to expand quotesailwave said..CliveO said..
Also an old time windsurfer that used to swap my feet half way through my windsurfing gybe.
Couldn't get used to the idea of riding toe side after gybing, so learnt to swap my feet right before gybing, going in both directions.
It was not easy, but now I am realising well worth the effort.
I can, but hate riding toe side, it's uncomfortable and not as efficient in going up wind.
Wow, the windsurfer in me sees this as ideal and I have thought about it on my own....but I have crazy brain to body mechanics blockage to even imagine staying on foil while switching, let alone right before entering a jibe. Hats off to you for mastering that one first!
I've seen quite a few wingers who switch feet before the jibe on one side, but after the jibe on the other side, most or all of the time. Sometimes, that's based on previous experience (freestyle windsurfers who practiced going switch while planing only on one side), but it can also be that it simply feels more natural, and/or works better, this way.
I'd love to try switching first, but I have the same brain to body mechanics blockage you have 
.
Wow I wonder how the OP is doing, some people seem to nail the gybes early, whereas some of us struggle longer, if wind is good a big board makes bump start gybes easy (ie coming down off foil just as you exit the curve), the advice above is excellent, foiling in S curves gets you half way round, what then I find helps me is getting the backhand power back in the wing, and having the mast in a neutral position (so as I loose power the board stays level and I can even do a stall gybe on a very small board) - right now I'm just starting to make about 30 percent of my gybes - most of the time I blame the wind
