so if it is to happen on the goldy what kind of timeframe are we looking at? when do conditions come together?

Al McLeod said...

still isn't organised... don't think any state has even put their hand up to run it?

pretty sure it is supposed to be either SA's or QLD's turn but i guess if they don't do it then other states could go for it?

QLD - ?
SA - ?
NSW - had the last one, possibly organised enough to do it again if everything else falls through?
VIC - not organised enough for 2012, possibly could host nationals in 2013...
TAS - don't think there is anyone down there motivated to run an event that big.
WA - heaps of events already and consistent conditions - could pull it off if everyone else can't get their act together?
THE PROBLEM WITH GOLDY IS THE WIND IS **** ITS USUALLY 10KNOTS OFF SHORE FINE IF U LIKE SAILIN BIG GEAR ENJOY I WONT WAIST MY TIME SORRY GUYS LIVED THERE MY WHOLE LIFE THATS WHY THEY CALL IT SURFERS PARIDISE CONSTRUCTION HAS ONLY MADE IT WORSE BUT I HOPE U ALL GET LUCKY
not much time until the titles are typically held - Jan/Feb but I guess they could be pushed back to Spring/Early summer season next year?

Definitely isn't a good thing for the sport if we don't have a 2012 Australian titles... They are always a lot of fun, meeting fellow wavesailors from across the country and hopefully scoring fun conditions.

Al McLeod said...

so if it is to happen on the goldy what kind of timeframe are we looking at? when do conditions come together?

You need to organize time off work al??????

Scotf said...

Hi Mucksy, re the insurance we probably have a few options for you but would have to act quickly. There was a Wavesailing club in qld a few years ago but unfortunately no one got behind the organizer so he closed it down. The clubs only really work if people join them. There may be an opportunity to reinstate it and overcome a lot of the paperwork or we could hook you up with one of the existing clubs if they were keen.

Give me a call if you want to discuss the options further. Details on WQ website

Windsurfingqld.com
Scot Farley (President Windsurfing Queensland)

scott can you private message me your mobile number and i'll give you a call

Donk said...

Spoke to Tobes tonight at the Merimbula Corona Classic prezzo. We are both keen to judge if you want us.

awesome! private message me your mobile number mate

chris

bowsa said...

Al McLeod said...

so if it is to happen on the goldy what kind of timeframe are we looking at? when do conditions come together?

conditions are best jan-april/may although can happen any time of year with lows being generated opff vic/nsw and pushing up a SE front to the goldie. they are most consistent though around feb/march so the aim would be to hold it end feb/start march.

a few people have pointed out that some people won't like the conditions if they're light winds - well thats the risk you take when holding a comp. i generally use a 5.4 for when it's light or a 5.0 when it's on (and i'm 89kg) and it is amazing down the line.

thanks to those who have contacted me regarding helping out. most appreciated. i think the first goal is to get insurance (which im yet to talk to scotf about) and permission from the council, which a few people are currently trying to sort out.

talking with simon (board crazy brisbane) he mentioned the process with the council involves a risk assessment and other paperwork and is a bit of a process - but he could help out as he runs the paperwork for all the racing events in and around brisbane.

thats all for now.

chris

March is the month to aim for, over the year it has generally been the month for swell and wind. You will need to think about an alternate location if the wind happens to NE , Lennox would be best but that involves two councils in different states.

Keep in mind that the GCCC is very different to deal with than the councils in Bris, you will need to talk to the Life guards very early. Generally due to the number of people that use the Alley they will not grant permission to use that for a comp, this can be circumvented if you have a major sponsor on board (think Billabong size). We never needed to do any sort of risk assessment with the Currumbin comps I ran in the past, however that may well have changed in the past few years.

As I said, give me a call and I can take you through what you need to think about for a comp of this type.

Sort of correct, some parts of the Alley are not in the batheing reserve, however if one person were to get washed into laceys they would be in the bathing reserve and subject to the rules of the GC Life guards. Overarching this is that the lifeguards have a level of jurestriction on the gold coast over everything from the border to well beyond the spit. Remember that the life guards have a tower at Currumbin and the fact that it is the life guards that regularly hunt away jet ski riders from the alley (ironically on their jet ski). There is also from time to time a flagged area set up in the estuary and you are not supposed to operate a windsurfer within 60 m of a flagged area.

The jurestriction to protect people vs that to maintain an area is very different.

There are 3 people that have organized wavesailing comps on the gold coast over the past 10 years, and all have had exactly the same experience. I'm not saying it's impossible, with the right people on your side it may be, but the only events that have been sanctioned to use that area in the past either have a very long historical place there, have a very big name sponsor to grease the wheels and increase credibility and/or have the involvement of lifeguards in the sport. Also each of the events have been sanctioned by surfing Australia.

Chris, it would be a very good idea to see if surfing Australia might want to consider being part of the event. Of course this would have to receive the nod from both Aus Windsurfing and WQ, but could help immensely with the running of the event both prior to and during (they have a very professional computerized judging system). At the very least they may be alemto give you further advice on usings the area.

Why are these things such a burecratic nightmare!

I saw mention of Fingal Head as a backup plan if Gold Coast presents too much of a problem?

I haven't personally sailed here.
What is it like?
Are there flagged areas?

Chris, PM me if interested in backup plan for Fingal Head.
Need to get NSW wavesailing involved too??

I know the guy at Tweed Council who issues permits and he told me it shouldn't be a problem for Fingal Head.

He gave me the application form.
Council needs 30 days notice and details of insurance.

Also gave me a contact at maritime to check ok with them too.

Qld Goldy again

How much wind is there likely to be at the Goldy around March?

Gday Chris

Currumbin would be awesome if the weather maps kind and no doubt would go off if we could get a permit. I reckon it should be a mobile event either the Bin or Flaty at Lenox ,then we got it all covered just about ,fingers crossed.Not sure about Fingal .Happy to give you hand if you need some help ,just let me no I live down at Cabarita .
Cheers
Matt

Here is a pic I took today of alley from up high.
Was 3-5foot+15knot SE
Check out the looong rides - wave starts to right of rock and ends behind the kite. Couple of small windsurfers in the photo somewhere..

Any news on what's happening??

At this stage of the year/season, we really need to start talking about the 2012/2013 Nationals.

great... got official notice from work tody saying no leave approved till after april. one day to late.... guess i'll be looking for a new job

it better be as good as the footage!! fingers crossed anyway