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j.j.
j.j.
WA
86 posts
WA, 86 posts
19 Jun 2012 8:43pm
I'm convinced about 4 batten sails working for me. I have the 2012 swats and absolutely love them. I'm 70kg and used them for the whole WA season and am now using them in Tenerife. The sails have a great wind range, you can set them with good bottom end power, but also with a bit more downhaul/outhaul they handle really well overpowered - I find them very stable. I bought them last year partly because I wanted a light compact and maneuverable sail, but also because of the price!

I use 3.7 to 5.2. I really have given these sails extensive testing in very different conditions. Here in Tenerife the wind is quite gusty and we have to sail overpowered a lot of the time - conditions you would not think ideal for a 4 batten sail, but the swat handles it really well, and with the softer feel of the sail it feels really comfortable and easy to control.

My sails are effectively going into their second season and have seen a lot of use over the WA summer and the last 2 months in Tenerife, however it seems Severne didn't compromise with the construction, they are still strong and have not let me down! I am really hoping they continue in the range for 2013



martR
martR
42 posts
42 posts
20 Jun 2012 5:20am
He Justin, how are you doing mate?
Ik am planning to come to Tenerife again soon.
Congretz with your promotion dude.
About the severne's, i always sailed S1's and has this year (0'12) for the first time bought a Swat 3.7 2012 and loves it , i still sails S1's (0'12) in the bigger sizes tho. I use the Swat in the netherlands in strong onshore winds and it remains super stable. I think it is an easier sail in the high winds then the 5 batten 2012 S1 because it has much less lift and it feels a little softer. It is still very very light and very strong on the same time. And i must add that i sail it with a 340/15 mast and still the profile doesn't move around or gets backhanded.
No, i can understand it completly why the 0'13 S1's are going to be 4 batten sails.
Grtz, Martin
northy1
northy1
500 posts
500 posts
3 Jul 2012 10:37pm
2013 up on the Severne website!

Be keen to hear from any first hand eyeball, and use (on the S1 and Blade esp)
Ben Severne
Ben Severne
WA
194 posts
WA, 194 posts
4 Jul 2012 7:52pm
northy1 said...

2013 up on the Severne website!

Be keen to hear from any first hand eyeball, and use (on the S1 and Blade esp)



I've tried them. Not bad.
northy1
northy1
500 posts
500 posts
4 Jul 2012 7:59pm
haha - how did you find them..better than the competition?!!

But on a serious note - should the selection of the 4 batten S1 have any bearing on sailor weight? Is the top end as high as a 5 batten?

Also - other than a slight change in weight and some materail tweaks on the Blade, is there any changes in how the new Blade will feel & react compared to 2012 / 2011?

Cheers Ben - looking fwd to your response - i fancy a change from Icons


Scotty Mac
Scotty Mac
SA
2060 posts
SA, 2060 posts
4 Jul 2012 10:32pm
5.9 Freek looks like a great freestyle/wave sail.
Carantoc
Carantoc
WA
7269 posts
WA, 7269 posts
4 Jul 2012 9:22pm
Ben Severne said...

northy1 said...

2013 up on the Severne website!

Be keen to hear from any first hand eyeball, and use (on the S1 and Blade esp)



I've tried them. Not bad.


I seem to recall that in 2010 that 'Severne Sails are Good'



Now in 2013 'Severne Sails are not bad'
Reflex Films
Reflex Films
WA
1460 posts
WA, 1460 posts
4 Jul 2012 10:29pm
check out the spiderfibre strip technology - under factory load torture tests these have tripled the strength from the mast across through the clew from something like 200 to over 600 kgs !

While moving swing weight towards the mast ( usually the centre of any rotation)

its a massive boost to what was already a super strong sail - which is also one of the lightest on the market - now thats real technological progress.

Keep an eye out for every one else copying this material use for next year - by which time i am sure Ben will have come up with something else clever.

(next time you are near some scales -go weigh some of your North gear - mast, sail and boom - then check out the weight specs on the Severne website - i think you'll be surprised)



P.C_simpson
P.C_simpson
WA
1492 posts
WA, 1492 posts
5 Jul 2012 12:33am
Reflex Films said...



(next time you are near some scales -go weigh some of your North gear - mast, sail and boom - then check out the weight specs on the Severne website - i think you'll be surprised)






Good marketing tool, makes you want to buy them every year. It would be scary to weigh my gear from 5 years ago...
Reflex Films
Reflex Films
WA
1460 posts
WA, 1460 posts
5 Jul 2012 9:38am
Hey Jase,

I reckon this Spiderfibre tweak could put a real dent in wave sail repair volume ...
actionjackson
actionjackson
NSW
29 posts
NSW, 29 posts
7 Jul 2012 9:48pm
Have things changed much in the 2013 Swats?
R1DER
R1DER
WA
1474 posts
WA, 1474 posts
25 Jul 2012 1:52pm
Just picked up some 2013 blades today
4.7 and 5.3

DunkO
DunkO
NSW
1150 posts
NSW, 1150 posts
25 Jul 2012 4:18pm
yep great looking sail bags.

give us look at the contents of them.
northy1
northy1
500 posts
500 posts
25 Jul 2012 6:18pm
Hey R1der - some pics of the sails rigged up would be nice and any comments from using them even better!!!

R1DER
R1DER
WA
1474 posts
WA, 1474 posts
25 Jul 2012 7:53pm
DunkO said...

yep great looking sail bags.

give us look at the contents of them.


Ha not yet !

I haven't covered my naked self in baby oil and rolled around on them yet!
R1DER
R1DER
WA
1474 posts
WA, 1474 posts
25 Jul 2012 8:01pm
northy1 said...

Hey R1der - some pics of the sails rigged up would be nice and any comments from using them even better!!!




I'm time poor at the moment, with work, wife and child. But I will try and post some pics.
As for using them I think this has been Perth's worst winter in my 30 years of sailing but as soon as Huey F4RTS I'm out there!
WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
WA
3183 posts
WA, 3183 posts
26 Jul 2012 10:50pm
R1DER said...

Just picked up some 2013 blades today
4.7 and 5.3





Great, looks like I'll be supping for the next 3 months on total glass.

Thanks


TheZu
TheZu
VIC
186 posts
VIC, 186 posts
27 Jul 2012 5:31pm
A few quick shots of the new Blade and S1






Long Reef
Long Reef
SA
583 posts
SA, 583 posts
27 Jul 2012 5:04pm
Got a call today from my local shop that they may be able to get their hands on some S1's for me early!!!
Thanks to Ben and Matt for taking the time out to come over to Sydney to show off the their new gear. Their support for the the sport at a grassroots level was part of the reason why I decided to update for 2013. Plus the new 4 battern S1's look wicked! Just got to learn to bottom turn properly now - no more gear excuses
cheers
Tim
actionjackson
actionjackson
NSW
29 posts
NSW, 29 posts
27 Jul 2012 9:28pm
Hey Tim, why did you go for the S1's over the Blades or Swats? Murray
NSWWA
NSWWA
NSW
324 posts
NSW, 324 posts
28 Jul 2012 6:16pm
S1's are a bit lighter and stable owing to the higher technical nature of the materials. My old SWATs are quite 'grunty' and sometimes I would feel like I was being pulled over the front in gusty winds we get on the east coast. I also wanted a 5.3 and 5.0 spread and SWATs were only 5.2 and 4.7. There is a clear window as o need to see what the wave is doing - i dont yet have a zen 'feel' for the wave yet! I've got an older 4.7 S1 and wanted consistency in my quiver. But the SWATs I've heard that they are the preference of many WA guys and offer a great price!!!
Ultimately it was Sam at WindSurfnSnow (Sydney) who knows my riding style - light weight top to bottom 'old school' with delusions of greatness and convinced me to get something that suits me - the newer S1's will fit the purpose, light for an o/s trip and look damn nice. Ben Serverne gave me some tips last year too about rigging when he did his shop tour last year.
Hope that helps .... I should have them in a week!!
CJW
CJW
NSW
1731 posts
CJW CJW
NSW, 1731 posts
28 Jul 2012 6:52pm
My quick summary on swat/S1, currently own '11, '12 SWATs and '12 S1.

'11 SWATS - good starting point but when they get near their upper wind range they get a bit wild, quite a 'forward pull', draft moves around a fair bit. Light and super cheap though.

'12 SWATs - massive improvement, way way more stable in the upper wind ranges and still the same grunty bottom end, still epic cheap

'12 S1 - Full baller spec, super light, super stable, look pimp. Not as grunty as the SWATs I don't reckon but they make up for it in stability and feel I reckon, priced as you'd expect for their premium sail but still way more competitive than a lot of other brands. Not as much as difference to the SWATs as pre '12 though.

Personally I've got some '13 S1's on order to replace my 5.2 and 4.7 '11 SWATs and i'll be keeping the '12 4.2 SWAT and '12 5.9 S1 as they are still sweet as. can't wait for them to arrive

Note: have never sailed a blade, so can't compare, marketed as a bit more grunty, bit heavier, bit tougher?
Long Reef
Long Reef
SA
583 posts
SA, 583 posts
28 Jul 2012 11:00pm
Apologies for posting under NSW WA. I forgot I was logged in as I made a posting about the upcoming season with my president cap on. My post above was my opinion what does not represent the opinion of the club.
Cheers
Tim
Wood Duck
Wood Duck
157 posts
157 posts
29 Jul 2012 7:27am
If you look back through the years you will find your spider technology is at least 10 years old.

Reflex Films said...

check out the spiderfibre strip technology - under factory load torture tests these have tripled the strength from the mast across through the clew from something like 200 to over 600 kgs !

While moving swing weight towards the mast ( usually the centre of any rotation)

its a massive boost to what was already a super strong sail - which is also one of the lightest on the market - now thats real technological progress.

Keep an eye out for every one else copying this material use for next year - by which time i am sure Ben will have come up with something else clever.

(next time you are near some scales -go weigh some of your North gear - mast, sail and boom - then check out the weight specs on the Severne website - i think you'll be surprised)






Reflex Films
Reflex Films
WA
1460 posts
WA, 1460 posts
29 Jul 2012 11:36am
That depends on materials used, how they are used, where they are used ,whats taken away and whats put back in , the total net effect on balance and handling and overall weight and whether it has historically made a difference (or not)
dan berry
dan berry
WA
2562 posts
WA, 2562 posts
29 Jul 2012 3:24pm
Is the spider stuff the striPs radiating from the clew?
Reflex Films
Reflex Films
WA
1460 posts
WA, 1460 posts
29 Jul 2012 5:30pm
thats it
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23651 posts
WA, 23651 posts
29 Jul 2012 6:09pm
dan berry said...

Is the spider stuff the striPs radiating from the clew?


Yeah - like a Severne Radiator
Ben Severne
Ben Severne
WA
194 posts
WA, 194 posts
29 Jul 2012 6:33pm
dan berry said...

Is the spider stuff the striPs radiating from the clew?


The SpiderFibre is the stuff UNDER the strips radiating from the clew. It's a fibreglass material that has really good strength to weight properties, so I've been using a lot of it in these sails - the obvious radials, but also perimeter and luff edge.

dan berry
dan berry
WA
2562 posts
WA, 2562 posts
29 Jul 2012 7:54pm
So what does it do? Arrest a tear ( minimize amount of panels ripped) or add stability? The radial bits I mean.
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