The board is 3.23 metres long, the mast 4.35 metres.
The large sail is 5.1 square metres and the smaller one 3.8 square metres.
the board is 240 litres
Windsurfer sailboard & 2 sails excellent condition ebay Item number: 320320561048
Just a thought, I know this one is really really old, but having that many litres and assuming I got it between $100-$200 are the old ones really that much harder to learn on? I have a feeling you guys are going to say just get a new one, but hiring them also costs and this would pay for itself in just a couple of goes? Am I wasting my time even though this one is 240litres?
(I will just put this back on ebay and hope I get $50 back!)
Failing that I'm going to go to the stores and see what I can get by spending a more (hopefully with Pedros help) when I check out the boards when hiring them
ps - I'm pretty certain the other half is getting me a lesson voucher, but just a thought
hmmm fair enough, I'll remember to ask for width dimensions as well from now on. Price will come into it, but I'd still like to check out the bic board. Just waiting to hear back from jman to see if he knows anything about repairs on boards and if he's still able to check the board out with me.
as you guys said - the bic is a good setup, just worried about the repairs done to it
thanks for that suggestion Cambodge (should I call you bodgie?!) Well worth a try.
Wazza, just send me a personal message and we can set up a time on a weekend. Very happy to help get you started. This weekend could be good as it isn't forecast to blow too hard.
I don't think anyone answered your question about Lysterfield Lake. I sailed there a few months ago and it was quite good fun although the wind was pretty erratic. Best in a direct Northerly or Southerly up or down the length of the lake. No lessons there that I know of, at least no hire gear or anything organised. Once you get a stable floaty board it would be a good place close to Rowville to put in some practice time. Fickle winds sharpen the responsiveness but may be a bit testing in your early days. At least the water is fairly flat though which will help.
thanks for that suggestion Cambodge (should I call you bodgie?!) Well worth a try.
Wazza, just send me a personal message and we can set up a time on a weekend. Very happy to help get you started. This weekend could be good as it isn't forecast to blow too hard.
I don't think anyone answered your question about Lysterfield Lake. I sailed there a few months ago and it was quite good fun although the wind was pretty erratic. Best in a direct Northerly or Southerly up or down the length of the lake. No lessons there that I know of, at least no hire gear or anything organised. Once you get a stable floaty board it would be a good place close to Rowville to put in some practice time. Fickle winds sharpen the responsiveness but may be a bit testing in your early days. At least the water is fairly flat though which will help.
thanks pedro - will pm (regarding the lessons) - in the meantime I'm still on the prowl for a decent "current" board.
if the gear fits in a commodore wagon, I'd be more than happy to be designated driver :)
weather sure is weird atm hey?
just been reading up the boardhttp://en.allexperts.com/q/Surfing-Windsurfing-2074/2008/7/shortboard-vs-longboards-1.htm
in particular this section
have set my eyes on a Bic Techno 160, but when I tried it out with an older 5.9 sail which I still have and which used to get me going on my superheavy old Bertha, I got very surprised, because the super-light Bic simply wouldn't budge. It could not go up-wind and it would slowly drift down-wind .
When I spoke to my salesman ( as a prospective buyer) , he said, that, of course, with a 10-12 knts wind I can't move the Bic with only a 5.9, or even a 6.4 , sail, because The Bic is designed to take a minimum 7.0 mt sail ! ( Which I was not planning to buy !)
is that really the case as the bic I've got my eye on has :
The 5.7M sail is a 07 KA sail. the 4.3M sail is a 03 Gaastra wave sail.
I'll be using it mainly at edithvale so I take it a sale upgrade is in order as well then?
ok, just called up someone on the tradingpost -
TIGA SAILBOARD 3.4M, includes Neil Pride sail, 5m mast, all fittings, cost $1900, sell $900 VGC, used one season 95877756 Parkdale
Pasted from <www.tradingpost.com.au/Marine/Sail-Non-Power/Surfboards-Sailboards-Water-Sports/AdNumber=8353643?BackToResult=true>
at its widest it was 80cm,
she couldnt tell how big the sail was or how many litres
roughly with a width of 3.4m and 80cm wide can you guys tell if its a beginner board or not and how many litres it would be?
fair enough, the seller told me that it was bought brand new last year...........I guess they all say that hey
its actually her sons, he was given it as a present last year by his partner. As soon as I asked is he there, she said that he's gone overseas (inland) so he just left it behind and asked her to sell it
thats why it was so hard getting any info about.
the sail was in a bag, and when I asked the model she just said tiga :)
I pretty much gave up, and was hoping someone here would know. Cant really find much on the tigas for some reason
still seems pretty cheap though for a brand new price last year though doesnt it
I did manage to find out that he has windsurfed before so I though intermediate board, but the width confuses me a little
Here's the website for Tiga:
www.tigasport.com/
Tiga are a subsidiary of Bic. I believe the Tiga brand died out in the late 90's but has been brought back from 2005 onwards. Bic is a French company (the same as makes your biro ballpoint pens) which is why it's quite uncommon to see them over here although I think they are pretty popular in Europe, especially the Techno range for learners/early intermediates. I remember in the early-noughties that the UK magazine Boards raved about the Bic Techno for learning (boards.co.uk/).
That Tiga in the Trading Post at over 3.4m long is definitely very old-style.
The Boards website has an excellent section on basic information for newcomers to the sport on what it's all about, the kit, the accessories, how to start and much more...
boards.co.uk/articles/index.asp?article_type=3
Rather than waste your time searching the web for 2nd hand deals I strongly recommend you get a couple of lessons on the shop's learner gear (and take up Pedro's offer) and chat to your friendly neighbourhood windsurfers at the beach and see what gear they are using. You'll then have a much better idea of what you are looking at when buying 2nd hand.
i didnt think ebay/trading post was just going to be so full of old gear (I knew the majority but not all, or people trying to pass off their old gear as current)
I def will take pedro up on the offer, just awkard atm (coming up to Christmas it seems the other half is always going shopping dumping me with the kids!)
so I'm not ignoring everyones advice its just hard to plan in advance. shes just gone shopping (yeah I found at 7:30 this morning and its now 8am) hows that for short notice. I figure as payback I'll checkout the stores this afternoon when she gets back
In the meantime I'll keep looking (I sort of cant stop myself and from what I've learned so far will stop posting so many questions and annoying everyone) - so far I've narrowed it down to 80-100cm wide 150l and must be under 3m in length and be around 10kg in weight
I guess weight and length are the biggest giveaways in age when going just by a description
Dont stop posting questions cos thats how you learn. Most of the people on this forum will help out where they can.
The bic techno is still your best bet from the ones you've mentioned. Perfect for learning. The nose repair would be easy to fix. (as someone else said...they're pretty common and no big deal.
You could see if he'd sell board only, for a bit less. Then chase up the other bits you need 'cos the KA cammed sail that comes with it is not great for a beginner, and a 7m-ish no cam sail would be ideal.
Thanks everyone for your advice so far - I've now got the Bic :)
Jman - thanks a mil for your help today!
Teeing up some lessons to get me started (I dont even know how to put the gear together, so cant wait till i've got a spare weekend, I may even have to make one)
I'm currently scouting for some roof racks :) Now that at least will be HEAPS easier to get. Pedro how often do you go out? I'm still seriously interested in hiring some real beginner boards and some starter tips once I get the board carrying situation sorted out (I'm still willing to be designated driver if you want)
Again - thanks everyone - I'm feeling a little more confident that I'm starting properly instead of buying a 15yo sinker tiga
Hi Wazza,
I usually go out every weekend that there is wind. Unfortunately I am off to Mt Buller this weekend but I could meet up this Friday.
nothing to do with dedication - just plain and simple addiction!!
But you probably won't meet happier addicts than windsurfers.
For a funny discussion on this to which I really related search the windsurfing general forum on "Am I really addicted? No, really?"
Yes, it will keep costing you money but so do many other much less healthy and exhilarating pastimes. But you can stick to second hand gear and keep costs down that way.
I look at the costs like this:
While the initial outlay is expensive say around the $2000 mark, that only equates to around $40 a week for the first year. Some gym fees are more that that!
Then if I outlay $1000 per year after that for getting a new sail or mast etc then thats only about $20 a week.
I think its a bargain especially if you get good second hand gear at a good price![]()
Hey dont get me wrong - I reckon I got off really cheaply!
Its like every new endevour, its going to cost at the start, I was just laughing coz I'm already looking at more gear (and I just took it out of the car, havent even tried putting it together yet)
I want to try inverloch this weekend, but it looks like rain. But its not like they get it right everytime.... so heres hoping
Too much wind? I'm so paranoid atm after everyone saying just how hard it is :)
tried rigging up the sail, so here goes with a couple of questions (Dont worry, I'll be checking out lessons at inverloch - just wanted to try it myself as I couldnt wait)
I tightened the downhaul (gee I hope I'm getting all this right) following a u tube video making sure none of the rope was crossed. Felt pretty tight, but it looks like the mast slightly towards the sail?
Then I put the boom on, not sure how much further the end should be so I just put it at 20cm past the tip of the sail. Tightened that but was afraid I was going to break something. Now heres the real query, the sail on the mast doesnt look like its completely flat, its twisted a bit and I can pop the sail on either side near the mast. Am I suppossed to pull the crap out of the rop on the boom so it pulls the sail tight? It feels tight, but I didnt want to tear the sail or hooks where the rope goes
If you guys reckon its too hard to explain via email, just say so and I'll wait till I get to inverloch and ask while getting my lessons (assuming I can get lessons there/wind isnt too much)
You shouldn't need too much outhaul. Usually only cm's but depending on the wind strength etc. Each sail brand is different however so that's just a rough guide. The sail shouldn't be flat, it should have some shape in it....similar to a aeroplanes wing I guess you could say. Downhauls a bit harder to explain but generally you need quite a bit.... more than you would probably think.
For example, check these outhttp://www.ezzy.com/sails/video_panther.cfm