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Created by WindRider > 9 months ago, 9 Nov 2010
echunda
VIC, 765 posts
17 Nov 2010 2:23PM
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flipper4444 said...

The laws are not out yet they will be here soon after the local elections.. the real truth: PARK VIC DONT WANT ANY ONE WINDSURFING AT ALL THEY ARE TRYING TO BAN THE SPORT OUT RIGHT this is just another way for them to try and work out a way to ban windsurfing with thease stupid laws..


I don't think PV want to ban widsurfing. If you read the FAQ brochure they go more against "noisy jet ski's".

Because we weren't represented at the consultation stage, we didn't get considered.

There's no conspiracies here, we F***ed up, plain and simple.

Gorgo
VIC, 5114 posts
17 Nov 2010 2:24PM
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flipper4444 said...

The laws are not out yet they will be here soon after the local elections.. the real truth: PARK VIC DONT WANT ANY ONE WINDSURFING AT ALL THEY ARE TRYING TO BAN THE SPORT OUT RIGHT this is just another way for them to try and work out a way to ban windsurfing with thease stupid laws..


Why do you think windsurfing should be banned? What is wrong with windsurfing that anybody would want to ban it? The only people talking about bans and restrictions are some of you. Why are you clowns so hysterical about nothing?

The new laws change nothing. You never could do more than 5 knots within 200m of the shore. 200m is no real imposition. The breakwaters at Sandringham and St Kilda are more than 400m from the beach.

K Dog
VIC, 1847 posts
17 Nov 2010 2:32PM
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flipper4444 said...

The laws are not out yet they will be here soon after the local elections.. the real truth: PARK VIC DONT WANT ANY ONE WINDSURFING AT ALL THEY ARE TRYING TO BAN THE SPORT OUT RIGHT this is just another way for them to try and work out a way to ban windsurfing with thease stupid laws..


I think the main reason is that they don't think many people windsurf anymore as per their FAQ:

Removing 'No Sailboard, 'Sailboards Only', 'No PWC or Sailboards' and 'PWC Only'; zones to reflect changing water activities and avoid duplication with other zone types; and

Keywording is reflect changing water activities.......

Are there any exceptions to the new zones?
The only exception to the above zones is a 'Kite Board Operating Area' at St Kilda. This has been introduced to create a safe area for kite-boarders. Kite-boarding has become an increasing popular water-sport, necessitating the creation of a designated area. Commercial Port Zones and restricted zones still apply for commercial shipping and Port Security and remain unchanged.


What criteria was used to establish priorities
The zones were prioritised according to level of usage and potential for accidents.


Again - its about risk management with these zones and laws.

Source: http://www.parkweb.vic.gov.au/resources/mresources/boat_zones/Boating_Zone_FAQs.pdf

They don't have beef with us - just don't think there is enough of us to be concerned about....

flipper4444
VIC, 1214 posts
17 Nov 2010 3:47PM
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Gorgo said...

flipper4444 said...

The laws are not out yet they will be here soon after the local elections.. the real truth: PARK VIC DONT WANT ANY ONE WINDSURFING AT ALL THEY ARE TRYING TO BAN THE SPORT OUT RIGHT this is just another way for them to try and work out a way to ban windsurfing with thease stupid laws..


Why do you think windsurfing should be banned? What is wrong with windsurfing that anybody would want to ban it? The only people talking about bans and restrictions are some of you. Why are you clowns so hysterical about nothing?

The new laws change nothing. You never could do more than 5 knots within 200m of the shore. 200m is no real imposition. The breakwaters at Sandringham and St Kilda are more than 400m from the beach.


I dont think it should be banned, but i have seen how hard PARK VIC came down on mountain bike riding and i know it might happen with us windsurfers too at the city beaches.. if PARK VIC had there way they would love to ban kiting, windsurfing, mountain bike riding out right. I dont ride mtbs any more, cause this is one of the reasons, they stufft all the trails..

Rox
VIC, 104 posts
17 Nov 2010 4:46PM
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This photo was taken just north of Point Ormond TODAY!!

PV were out testing their new law enforcement weapon against windsurfers!!





The dude windsurfing within 200m of the beach (top right) is about to get terminated!!

Get a grip guys. Too much talk...not enough wind!!

ginger pom
VIC, 1746 posts
17 Nov 2010 8:30PM
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flipper4444 said...

Gorgo said...

flipper4444 said...

The laws are not out yet they will be here soon after the local elections.. the real truth: PARK VIC DONT WANT ANY ONE WINDSURFING AT ALL THEY ARE TRYING TO BAN THE SPORT OUT RIGHT this is just another way for them to try and work out a way to ban windsurfing with thease stupid laws..


Why do you think windsurfing should be banned? What is wrong with windsurfing that anybody would want to ban it? The only people talking about bans and restrictions are some of you. Why are you clowns so hysterical about nothing?

The new laws change nothing. You never could do more than 5 knots within 200m of the shore. 200m is no real imposition. The breakwaters at Sandringham and St Kilda are more than 400m from the beach.


I dont think it should be banned, but i have seen how hard PARK VIC came down on mountain bike riding and i know it might happen with us windsurfers too at the city beaches.. if PARK VIC had there way they would love to ban kiting, windsurfing, mountain bike riding out right. I dont ride mtbs any more, cause this in one of the reasons, they stufft all the trails..



calm down

No one wants to ban anything. Nothing will change.

Everyone needs to carry on respecting swimmers and not being cocks

Rox
VIC, 104 posts
17 Nov 2010 9:54PM
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there once was a man from melbun'
who wanted to go windsurfun'
said he to PV as he planed out to sea
at least you wont catch me kitesurfun'

the man then gybed
it was then that he eyed
the cold front approachun'

he watched PV run!!
to the shelters they clung
as the storm blew with agresshun'

for when strong winds are cookun'
no way they'll be bookun'
the windsurfun' man from melbun'


WindRider
QLD, 838 posts
18 Nov 2010 8:51AM
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I wanted to clarify that we are not sitting on our hands on this one... One thing we can draw from all of this is that we all essentially want the same thing; that is, the ability to enjoy our awesome sport without too many restrictions... It's great that we are all so passionate about windsurfing and what is happening with regards to PV. I attended the 'Your Bay Your Say' last night and the main focus was about foreshore activities and upgrades. It also included discussions about the new boating zones and WV was there to represent the Victorian windsurfing community. (See another post for more detail.)

With regards to recent feedback we received from PV, we sent a response to PV yesterday morning (17/11/10). The response included clarification areas we can safely and legally sail, as well as reiteration for the regulations to consider our beginner windsurfers progressing to the short board side of sailing. It also included statements about how the sport of windsurfing is growing, and that on some of the beaches outlined to PV in our last meeting (i.e. Rye in Winter), that windsurfers can out number kite boards 50 to 1! . We have also requested clarification on a number of items. Including the kite board zone, as there is conflicting information on the PV website and within their communications.

We have asked for another meeting to continue our discussions and intend to pass on any comments, ideas and opinions that have been generated via this post.

It's still not over and I don't see any fat ladies ready to start singing!

If you are WV member and I would like to see a copy of the response PV? Please email president@wv.org.au

ozbiker56
VIC, 59 posts
18 Nov 2010 10:33AM
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Windrider, I just wanted to say thanks for the efforts with PV that you and others in WV are putting in to help keep our sport viable. I'm sure I speak on behalf of all other windsurfers.

Gorgo
VIC, 5114 posts
18 Nov 2010 12:15PM
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K Dog said...
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They don't have beef with us - just don't think there is enough of us to be concerned about....


To be completely honest, Marine Safety and the Police don't really think about windsurfing or kitesurfing much at all. We are seriously not on their radar. As long as we don't bring ourselves to their attention too much they will continue to not care.

The way we bring ourselves to their attention, in order, is: a) provide corpses for them to fish out of the water, b) hurt other people, c) make a nuisance for long enough and loud enough that they can't ignore us.

The review of marine safety regulations does two things: 1) a general update and simplifcation, and 2) the biggie, provides for uniform alcohol and anti-hoon laws for boating.

Under the new laws pissed people get busted. In the past you could be booked if you were pissed and driving, but not booked if you were anchored in the middle of the bay and everyone was pissed.

Under the new laws the water police can confiscate your boat if you are hooning.

Footnote on corpses: Water police really, really hate fishing dead people out of the water. The only thing they hate more than that is fishing dead people with no life jackets on. They quite like rescuing people, especially if the rescuee is well equipped and has their **** together.

WindRider
QLD, 838 posts
19 Nov 2010 7:48AM
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I windsurfed at Bon Beach last night and a Parks Victoria bouy from maybe Rickets Point came floating into the no boating zone. This thing was hugh and had a solar powered beacon light on top, which was not working. I would hate to had sailed in to this in the dark with a boat as it would have rippd a great big hole in the boat.



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