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Wellington Point - fines for rigging on the grass

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Created by AUS691 > 9 months ago, 25 Jan 2009
AUS691
QLD, 123 posts
27 Jan 2009 1:50PM
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mkseven said...

Thanks Simon. As Vando said sailboards could be confused with kites so just have to set the council officers straight.


Actually, in a positive from this encounter, she knew our gear was for sailboarding/windsurfing, we didn't have to explain that (saved some time I'm sure). She was very nice, no problem at all with her, she was just following specific instructions (kites _and_ windsurfers).

Speculating, I'm guessing someone in the office got a little excited/confused and sent the order down the chain without fully understanding the differences and/or the complaint/s was/were a bit general e.g. "one of those windsurfer kite things...", which is a public education issue for us - no doubt more large-ish events in front of the general public will help somewhat.

Plus, I'm getting a new mast extension for my birthday - the week's looking up!!

H

windykid
QLD, 368 posts
27 Jan 2009 8:03PM
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should we warn the kiters

Richiefish
QLD, 5612 posts
27 Jan 2009 8:17PM
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thanks Simon

greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
27 Jan 2009 11:01PM
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the funny thing about wello is that in the late seventies and early eighties when i used to sail there, the beach was massive and would stretch out level from the large expanse of grass in front of the car park for 100+metres.

the catamaran club would meet every sunday and have 40 or more hobies and the same number of us windsurfers would also rig on the beach and the place was packed with families.

the council has a lot to answer for in terms of preserving "the reserve"

one council fine collectors wage could pump a lot of sand and replace a lot of grass and turn the foreshore back to multisport user and family friendly.

rant over.

vando
QLD, 3418 posts
27 Jan 2009 11:23PM
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greenleader said...

the funny thing about wello is that in the late seventies and early eighties when i used to sail there, the beach was massive and would stretch out level from the large expanse of grass in front of the car park for 100+metres.

the catamaran club would meet every sunday and have 40 or more hobies and the same number of us windsurfers would also rig on the beach and the place was packed with families.

the council has a lot to answer for in terms of preserving "the reserve"

one council fine collectors wage could pump a lot of sand and replace a lot of grass and turn the foreshore back to multisport user and family friendly.

rant over.


Does anyone have any photos of back then would be interesting to compare.

greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
27 Jan 2009 11:58PM
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vando, which box of 50 in the back closet do you want me to start my search?

WARNING! archive photos of wello windsurfers in the early eighties had them wearing boardies over their wetsuits!!!!!!!!!!

there may be serious repercussions in the space time equilibrium!

vando
QLD, 3418 posts
28 Jan 2009 9:38AM
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greenleader said...

vando, which box of 50 in the back closet do you want me to start my search?

WARNING! archive photos of wello windsurfers in the early eighties had them wearing boardies over their wetsuits!!!!!!!!!!

there may be serious repercussions in the space time equilibrium!




come on greeny I know you want to look back at yourself in those bright coloured boardies

Upthere
QLD, 348 posts
28 Jan 2009 10:05AM
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i reckon it would be sick to see what it was once like. My parents still rave about the good old days at wello when it was windsurfing central for brisbane.

NotWal
QLD, 7433 posts
28 Jan 2009 2:45PM
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greenleader said...

the funny thing about wello is that in the late seventies and early eighties when i used to sail there, the beach was massive and would stretch out level from the large expanse of grass in front of the car park for 100+metres.

the catamaran club would meet every sunday and have 40 or more hobies and the same number of us windsurfers would also rig on the beach and the place was packed with families.

the council has a lot to answer for in terms of preserving "the reserve"

one council fine collectors wage could pump a lot of sand and replace a lot of grass and turn the foreshore back to multisport user and family friendly.

rant over.


I've heard there was a lot of sand around Wello/Lota in the old days. I heard it was the Port of Brisbane development in the 80's that changed everything. Dunno if that's true though.

If you were going to pump sand, where would you pump it from?

aus301
QLD, 2039 posts
28 Jan 2009 2:53PM
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NotWal said...
If you were going to pump sand, where would you pump it from?


The beach at Kirra, more than enough down there

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
28 Jan 2009 4:06PM
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aus301 said...

NotWal said...
If you were going to pump sand, where would you pump it from?


The beach at Kirra, more than enough down there



Not a bad idea. I think the beach at Honolulu was imported form another island.

AUS691
QLD, 123 posts
28 Jan 2009 3:36PM
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And to close off my part in this: just spoke with the council officer I spoke to on Sunday, and it's no fine, and us windsurfers are a-OK on the grass @ Wello (reconfirming Simon's discussion yesterday).

Nice. What gear should I buy with my $375

Hamish

Gestalt
QLD, 14710 posts
28 Jan 2009 3:58PM
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AUS691 said...

And to close off my part in this: just spoke with the council officer I spoke to on Sunday, and it's no fine, and us windsurfers are a-OK on the grass @ Wello (reconfirming Simon's discussion yesterday).

Nice. What gear should I buy with my $375

Hamish


KA have some nice kit....

Haircut
QLD, 6491 posts
28 Jan 2009 7:08PM
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i bet you can't resist buying some of that new jason pryde gear can't bee seen dead on a goldcoast beach without some

jc13
QLD, 80 posts
28 Jan 2009 7:50PM
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greenleader said...

the funny thing about wello is that in the late seventies and early eighties when i used to sail there, the beach was massive and would stretch out level from the large expanse of grass in front of the car park for 100+metres.

the catamaran club would meet every sunday and have 40 or more hobies and the same number of us windsurfers would also rig on the beach and the place was packed with families.

the council has a lot to answer for in terms of preserving "the reserve"

one council fine collectors wage could pump a lot of sand and replace a lot of grass and turn the foreshore back to multisport user and family friendly.

rant over.

I was a member of the WPSS during the 80s up until we were evicted and my dad was the president at one time or another through th 70s. They once held a national hobie titles in 77 with 100 hobie 14s and 60 hobie 16s, all rigged on the wetsren side of the reserve. It was still **** at low tide as back then they didnt have beach rollers so you had to get 4 guys to carry the boats 20-30 meters through the mud to de rig.

I will see if i can dig up any old photos should have something.

nathand
QLD, 211 posts
28 Jan 2009 8:53PM
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gday boys, dont fire up i am a kiter the local bloke in the silver landrover, just looking over that local law 15 book, couldnt find anything even closesly related to kiting there

(1) Whilst in a park or reserve a person must not:
(a) Litter, dump, throw away or otherwise distribute any waste material,
paper, fruit skin, bottle, tin or rubbish of any kind, except into a
receptacle provided by Council for that purpose; or
(b) Deposit or dump any vegetation, garden clippings, tree prunings,
building materials, fill or spoil; or
(c) Deposit, store or abandon any goods or vehicles; or
(d) Beach, repair, paint or otherwise maintain a boat or any motor vehicle
except in an areas specifically set aside for that purpose; or
(e) Discharge a firearm or other weapon; or
(f) Throw a stone, projectile or other missile; or
(g) Behave in a riotous, disorderly, indecent, offensive, threatening or
insulting manner; or
(h) Engage in any activity which would be likely to injure or endanger the
person; or
(i) Engage in any activity which would be likely to injure, endanger,
obstruct, inconvenience or annoy any other person in a park or
reserve; or
(j) Otherwise do any act which injures, pollutes fouls, litters or defaces the
park or reserve of any facility within the park or reserve; or
(k) Carry out an activity prohibited in a local law policy.

Maximum penalty – 50 penalty units.

just trying to shed some light on the situation, becuase theunderlined parts are the only i can see and in my opinion that could cover anything from kiting to people throwing a tennis ball, bit of descrimination between the two sports, dotn you agree?

and yeah i see what your all saying about the odd kiter, but 99% of the time its a travelling bloke or bird that hasnt talked to any locals about finding out about conditions or rules
cheers.

aus301
QLD, 2039 posts
28 Jan 2009 9:09PM
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I think you will find it is covered under (k) in that list, it is likely that there is a separate policy to cover it. Basically point (k) gives them the ability to create a policy and have it passed through council without having to amend the law.

In saying all that though, I couldn't find anything in the policies they have on the site that related to kites or kite surfing.

nathand
QLD, 211 posts
28 Jan 2009 9:23PM
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yeh thats what i was thinking i couldnt find it either, might have a yarn to the bloke when i see him tomrow, not that he would care that much for 14 an hour

greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
28 Jan 2009 9:59PM
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jc13 said...

They once held a national hobie titles in 77 with 100 hobie 14s and 60 hobie 16s, all rigged on the wetsren side of the reserve. It was still **** at low tide as back then they didnt have beach rollers so you had to get 4 guys to carry the boats 20-30 meters through the mud to de rig.


jc, no doubt i would have known you guys and yep the muddy flats at low tide were and still are........well, muddy flats! however the rigging area and beach was a little more generous back in those days. try to sit 160 hobies there today on the beach at high tide hey!

swaziau
QLD, 13 posts
28 Jan 2009 10:06PM
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maybe they should BAN umbrellas on beaches, they fly like spears in the wind

Gestalt
QLD, 14710 posts
28 Jan 2009 11:40PM
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swaziau said...

maybe they should BAN umbrellas on beaches, they fly like spears in the wind


yeah but they don't have kiters attached to them.

windykid
QLD, 368 posts
2 Feb 2009 9:04AM
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Gestalt said...

swaziau said...

maybe they should BAN umbrellas on beaches, they fly like spears in the wind


yeah but they don't have kiters attached to them.


that could be arranged [}:)]

Philnott
NSW, 122 posts
2 Feb 2009 1:23PM
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The thought of a fine for rigging up on grass must have had someone in a "Hurry"
I you left your nice new harness in the shower at Wello, I have it!!!
PS. Next they will be banning cars because someone got runover!!!!



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