Or, the answer is within

And this video gives some further indications from Francisco Goya from 2019.

Gday Mark, like Kato said what suits one sailor might not another. I can tell you what works for me, I'm an average sailor who normally sail at Dutchies open water, race gear Manta and KAR sails. Volume is the first item for me, up to 20knts on a 98l Manta 6.3race pull around 30-32 knots speed wise open ocean, board double concave length 240 fin it right and you don't feel the chop, rails are tucked so gybing is a dream with this board. Above 20 to 25 onto the 88l Manta same sail, difference for me is the 98 has too much volume on the tail end makes for a very flighty ride. At 25knts can keep same board 88l but down to 5.5KAR, the real messy chop/swell down to 74l Manta dream to sail 5mm concave to v width 54 dream gibing board. Progressively the 98 is 61 wide, 88 is 59 wide makes a huge difference in chop and lower tail volume.
Also had the rocket no slouch either had this at 41knts flat water, very tame board compared to mantas which have a crisp feel when sailing.
normally sail upwind from dutchies and downwind doing NM runs. Maybe have a look at these boards and see what improvements can be made.
As a side, sailed the drops 8'10 for a while, this board took me by surprise, the best gybing board I have sailed, I believe it's all to do with the length and rocker but I'm no expert.

Hi, Mark and KA43.
Bitter, aren"t we?
I suppose only YOUR opinions matter, and anyone with different views is stupid or uneducated.
Grammar and details is most important, while ideas and opinions are not to be tolerated.
Do we even know exactly what board Mark is using as a base/constant?
Do we know his skill level?

LeeD said..
Richard G.
That shape is what his company is selling to you.

Obviously but I think the comments make sense. Do you take issue and if so specifically why ?

Ok, maybe I'm not being fair.
Example, but with Goya.
He came by a few years ago, maybe '17, with a ONE and a Proton in his car.
He didn't go out in 16-23 mph conditions, choosing instead to look for better conditions for his boards. Ended up back at Berkeley saying his normal travel slalom board was being repaired, it being 2 years old and travelled all over the world that he visited.
Obviously, he preferred his older board over the new P 105 sized board. On that trip, he brought a 5.3 and a slalom 6.6. Yes, he looked at his P in the rigging area over and over after rigging the bigger sail.
Wind was steady.
Was my rest day, so watched for the whole afternoon.

Good story LeeD not sure of relevance.

RichardG said..
I think this video from Robby shows his current thinking on Slalom Freeride design.

At 1.21 " a gybing machine ". Have you ever seen a video of Robby coming out of a gybe so slowly? And I thought it was me just getting old. It's those new wide boards! They just don't gybe like the old ones.

Sorry if you think I'm bitter or have upset you Lee but in every board recommendation thread or tech thread you recommend what you have or mention irrelevant stuff and people call u on it
What Robbie uses is not relevant to this question.
I'll remind you what it was:

I want to modify a very fast slalom design to make it a little more user friendly. I know how to do that.
But all other things being equal, what one or two things make the best contribution to ease of use ** without slowing it down too much.

** ease of use being ability to gybe well and handling chop as the most common measures.

Thanks to the very knowledgeable crew here who have given me some really good info.

As to the Goya thing I'm not sure what you're suggesting. It would be common for a board designer to look for a very specific set of conditions to test a board in, and to go back and ride older models along with new proto's. If he's riding a 2017 board it doesn't mean new stuff sucks. Could be a 17 proto he just modified, who knows.

Oh yeah and - no arguments from me about narrower being better much of the time

LeeD said..
Wow Mark, you are purely literal like an engineer, mathematician, or phycisist-chemist.
Shades of gray don't exist in your world.
Sorry.

think he just has his bulls**t filter on.

LeeD said..
Oftentimes, there is no simple short answer to a question.
Like, how do we jibe better?

With all due respect
How far off topic can you go? FFS...
Im sure there is a fairly narrow set of design parameters that make a board fast n easy riding. Vids showing boards being ridden in the 90s only shows experts ripping it up. Doesnt actually show anything but general planshape of board. Not the finer details the OP is requesting.
Your "those were the days" posts arent really relevant here on this thread.

Get it?
There is more than one way to skin a cat!
He doesn't give sufficient information so ANY answer is just as applicable as mine.

Actions not words. Mark has my MB59 design and is free to glean whatever he wishes from it if it helps him.

Looks sweet to me, for what that's worth

^^ So where are YOUR drawings to back the design you speak of?