They Just Keep F...ing up Botany Bay

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AUS4
AUS4
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27 Jul 2008 1:46pm
Soon the hole bay will be 50cm deep.


http://www.sydneyports.com.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/4860/PBE_Overview_June_2008.pdf
swoosh
swoosh
QLD
1929 posts
QLD, 1929 posts
27 Jul 2008 2:35pm
The guys who are proposing it seem really confused.

First they want to have "enclosed fish cleaning facilities which prevent birds from being attracted to the area, and important feature because of the proximity to the airport"

but they are also building a "specially designed bird watching platform" obviously for all the birds they plan on not attracting.

And then, they say that the saltmarsh habitat will be expanded, "these areas will provide additional bird habitat and attract migratory birds"

Confusing eh.

seano
seano
NSW
150 posts
NSW, 150 posts
27 Jul 2008 3:39pm
there's another major flaw in the plan, the forgot a grass rigging area
AUS4
AUS4
NSW
1296 posts
NSW, 1296 posts
27 Jul 2008 6:10pm
Forget the rigging area Sean...... there is little water to sail on.
latedropeddy
latedropeddy
VIC
417 posts
VIC, 417 posts
27 Jul 2008 6:29pm
wow - the competition is on between melbourne, sydney and brisbane for cargo trade.

Dredges were hard at work today in the channel in the bay... it was good to see the penguins still around.

one statement that annoyed me was "As the city of
Sydney continues to grow and more products are
manufactured offshore, the need for containers
traded through the port also grows."

why not get behind our own manufacturers in oz?
timford
timford
NSW
510 posts
NSW, 510 posts
27 Jul 2008 6:53pm
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Jman
Jman
VIC
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27 Jul 2008 7:34pm
latedropeddy said...

why not get behind our own manufacturers in oz?


Those were the days
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
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27 Jul 2008 8:18pm
I have only driven past there so I am no expert and if I make erroneous comments, I apologise in advance. My main point is that at this present time the foreshore area along the northern side of Botany Bay seems pretty dodgy. There are truck trailers parked all over the place. Its a very busy road with lots of trucks.

There doesn't seem much in the way of facilities or amenities there, the strip of land between road and water is sandy and scrubby with no apparent open areas.

As the population of NSW increases then there will be increased demand on infrastructure like ports, roads and railways. Its good that they are planning for growth. Otherwise we will end up paying more for everything and the place will end up like Pakistan, where everything is 50 years old and breaking down.

There isn't really anywhere else they can put a container port in NSW.





Wood Duck
Wood Duck
157 posts
157 posts
27 Jul 2008 8:06pm
Mobydisc said...
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There isn't really anywhere else they can put a container port in NSW.








Dont you think they could build it on land that is already there instead of filling in the bay? There is plenty of vacant land across the road.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
27 Jul 2008 10:22pm
I am not really that familiar with the area but I think there is a cemetary close by on a hill and there are some factories and big sheds there. I don't think there is much vacant land there but perhaps if land around the port could be used by the port, its not a bad idea to suggest them to use the land.

Why not ask the authority to look into this?

To really stop this from happening someone needs to do some diving around there and discover a snail or some crustation that only lives there and will be wiped out if they fill in the area.



seano
seano
NSW
150 posts
NSW, 150 posts
27 Jul 2008 11:10pm
the new walking track will give the kiteboarders easier access to their friends in the bush
Wood Duck
Wood Duck
157 posts
157 posts
27 Jul 2008 11:29pm
yeh, there is a colony of rare Meekats in the bushes......Chris T is quiet friendly with them.
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
28 Jul 2008 7:46am
They've f*cked up BB in the 80's and before with the airport extension that screwed up the place. I've seen over the years Sanderingham (Dolls Pt) beach disappear and made to reappear, and the St. George RC erode to the end. Ramsgate also receded.

I doubt there is global thinking in all this. For sure a new entity of the kind will require more dredging, and change the currents, sedimentation and beaches.
laff77
laff77
NSW
273 posts
NSW, 273 posts
28 Jul 2008 11:36am
When disucussions were going on about construction of the third terminal both the existing operators suggested that thier terminals be expanded instead of having to build this new facility.

This proposal was knocked back on the basis that Sydney needs to have three operators for more competion....

Expanding the two existing terminals would not have lead to this much construction.
timford
timford
NSW
510 posts
NSW, 510 posts
29 Jul 2008 10:23pm
I have not seen this one before.

Rigging below the low water mark, I hope that someone can stretch the construction down the beach a little and build us a water based rigging area.
stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
3571 posts
WA, 3571 posts
29 Jul 2008 9:54pm
I don't know what's more ridiculous... the sign or the fact that the manger is called Blackadder.

Bureaucratic lunacy
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
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30 Jul 2008 12:28am
50cm deep, sounds like a freestylers dream
ka43
ka43
NSW
3101 posts
NSW, 3101 posts
30 Jul 2008 9:10am
Dont worry, that peanut (Blackadder) used to be the manager at Warringah council and they got sacked.
Just goes to show, once a bureacrat........
laff77
laff77
NSW
273 posts
NSW, 273 posts
30 Jul 2008 9:15am
Is that at Kyeemagh? If so how long has it been up for?
Crash Landing
Crash Landing
NSW
1173 posts
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30 Jul 2008 9:29am
Just change his name to SlackBladder on the sign..
DavMen
DavMen
NSW
1510 posts
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30 Jul 2008 9:29am
laff77 said...

Is that at Kyeemagh? If so how long has it been up for?


That looks like its in a side street that runs off the main beach parade down near the south ramp, Henson or Shellwod street.
If the sign is offical (not bogus) means the locals probably getting upset. Still can rig etc. on the main grassed area, just not this side street.
Actually I've had a loacal ask me to move my car because it was parked infront of his house (not driveway) - I laughed - he was serious.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
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30 Jul 2008 9:38am
DavMen said...

Actually I've had a loacal ask me to move my car because it was parked infront of his house (not driveway) - I laughed - he was serious.



What happened after that?
sick_em_rex
sick_em_rex
NSW
1601 posts
NSW, 1601 posts
30 Jul 2008 10:24am
I've actually knocked on someones door once to ask them if I could park in their driveway if I gave them $20.00. They weren't home and shortly after that I got a spot on the road anyway. The parking in summer down there is ridiculous.
DavMen
DavMen
NSW
1510 posts
NSW, 1510 posts
30 Jul 2008 11:01am
Mobydisc said...

DavMen said...

Actually I've had a loacal ask me to move my car because it was parked infront of his house (not driveway) - I laughed - he was serious.



What happened after that?



Nothing I just walked away, rigged my gear and went sailing.
I'm to old to be bothered.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
30 Jul 2008 11:15am
Yes the traffic down there is ridiculous during summer. I went down there a couple of times last summer. Beautiful sunny day with a nice breeze. However every man and his dog decided the same thing. The traffic on the water and off it was a sight to behold. Power boats, jet skis, windsurfers, kiters, swimmers, fishers. Wow!

Bankstown by the Bay.

I'll stick to the bathwater and pelican itch.




DavMen
DavMen
NSW
1510 posts
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30 Jul 2008 11:35am
Mobydisc said...


I'll stick to the bathwater and pelican itch.


Besides these inconveniences, in Sydney, Kyeemagh with a NE seabreeze is hard to beat!
ka43
ka43
NSW
3101 posts
NSW, 3101 posts
30 Jul 2008 11:44am
Very true, although for us northsiders we have to leave early just to get a park and then swelter until the wind kicks in. But Daves right, pretty clean water, long runs and consistent wind. Ful sik!!!!!!!!
timford
timford
NSW
510 posts
NSW, 510 posts
30 Jul 2008 12:29pm
DavMen said...

laff77 said...

Is that at Kyeemagh? If so how long has it been up for?


That looks like its in a side street that runs off the main beach parade down near the south ramp, Henson or Shellwod street.
If the sign is offical (not bogus) means the locals probably getting upset. Still can rig etc. on the main grassed area, just not this side street.
Actually I've had a loacal ask me to move my car because it was parked infront of his house (not driveway) - I laughed - he was serious.


Henson St, this old cat was giving me the 'look' thats when I noticed I was right under the sign. Awell "TFBR". "200m from the sign" thats just plain stupid.
Summer parking can be a bother for sure.
DavMen
DavMen
NSW
1510 posts
NSW, 1510 posts
30 Jul 2008 12:39pm
timford said...
"200m from the sign"


Yeah pretty dumb - the whole street is probably ony 75m long.
Gonewindsurfing247
Gonewindsurfing247
WA
966 posts
WA, 966 posts
30 Jul 2008 10:45am
Unbelievable, what next? I feel for you guys, I use to love sailing BB.
Ellobuddha
Ellobuddha
NSW
625 posts
NSW, 625 posts
30 Jul 2008 1:04pm
Now I remember why i left Sydney............................
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