Forward loop

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Sputnik11
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27 Nov 2013 10:26pm
This is my goal for the summer. This video looks pretty good in terms of breaking it down into chunks and avoiding getting smashed up.

Anyone who does loop, what do you think? Is this good advice, or is there an instructional I should follow?


mathew
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27 Nov 2013 9:52pm
This is *the* instructional video... the rest aren't even in the same ballpark.
Haircut
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27 Nov 2013 11:38pm
yep, remko is-da-man!

what ever happened to remko and all those promising up'n'comers from that era?
jfunk
jfunk
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28 Nov 2013 6:40am
Brilliant, so simple
seanhogan
seanhogan
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28 Nov 2013 7:16am
top stuff, makes you feel like having a go at it... until I sh.. myself and abandon the idea
Zed
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28 Nov 2013 8:07am
very good. Sort of how I learned - doing flat water forwards, much easier psychologically than doing one off a wave.
bowsa
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28 Nov 2013 11:42am
my best advice would be don't go into learning forwards thinking you have to hit it with max speed. you need power in the sail, but try to approach a ramp slowly it will help with getting the rotation sorted
evlPanda
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28 Nov 2013 2:24pm
The thing that's tripping me up is the board. How does one bring the board around too?
He makes it looks so easy in the above video at about 15 seconds in. One hand.
I can't do that.
bowsa
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28 Nov 2013 2:24pm
tuck your ankles right up to your arse
windaddict
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28 Nov 2013 3:59pm
evlPanda said..

The thing that's tripping me up is the board. How does one bring the board around too?
He makes it looks so easy in the above video at about 15 seconds in. One hand.
I can't do that.


If you don't get the fin out of the water you will fly out of the straps, in the first 3 steps it is really important that you lean right back and stay back, while'st throwing the rig to windward. This action will cause the board to fly out of the water and go sideways around and your feet will remain in the straps.
da vecta
da vecta
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29 Nov 2013 12:47pm
bowsa said..

tuck your ankles right up to your arse


Panda would be familiar enough with that


...from Snowboarding jumps I mean.
evlPanda
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29 Nov 2013 6:11pm
^ Oh this guy. THIS GUY!



Anyway; up my arse. GOT IT!
da vecta
da vecta
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29 Nov 2013 10:16pm
He he
Yuppy
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30 Nov 2013 12:20am
Hey Sputnik.

I might join you.

I tried to learn a couple years ago by initiating the loop by leaving the foot straps and kind of catapulting on purpose. Didn't get far
KAOS69
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30 Nov 2013 9:20am
Haircut said..

yep, remko is-da-man!

what ever happened to remko and all those promising up'n'comers from that era?


they moved to w.a and took up kiting LOL ok i still have alot of sailing gear and get out most days but dont tell my kiting mates i go both ways
FlickySpinny
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1 Dec 2013 12:06am
Zed said..

very good. Sort of how I learned - doing flat water forwards, much easier psychologically than doing one off a wave.


Same here. Got really hacked off trying to find the right ramp so decided flat was the way forward. Once I'd made that move it took 20 mins to land one.
Zubby
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2 Dec 2013 11:02am
This is another good one which may help.

windaddict
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2 Dec 2013 12:57pm
Here is another one, but I tend to agree that 4 steps by Remko, and the one above, Sam Ross, are the best two.




FreeraceQLD
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2 Dec 2013 10:02am
You may want to consult with Leo Sharp from Qld, he was throwing these around at will yesterday at the Freerace Queensland event yesterday at Lake Cootharaba on the Sunshine Coast, made them look so easy!


Sputnik11
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3 Dec 2013 12:16am
great videos windaddict and zubby - cheers
HTW101
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3 Dec 2013 2:40am
A great video.
I would even add a step before step 1. Standing in knee deep water with the sail upright and the mast base in the sand. The boom is positioned very high to make up for the missing mast foot. They you go trough the motion of step one but without the board under your feet. This gives you an idea of the sensation on the motion in a safe environment and you don't have to worry about dinging the board.
The idea is to rotate around so that you end up on your back, under the sail and facing as much in the forwards position as you can. From there you can move on to step 1 from this video.
My 2 cents :)
evlPanda
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3 Dec 2013 10:48am
FlickySpinny said..

Zed said..

very good. Sort of how I learned - doing flat water forwards, much easier psychologically than doing one off a wave.


Same here. Got really hacked off trying to find the right ramp so decided flat was the way forward. Once I'd made that move it took 20 mins to land one.



And a lot of people say that after you've landed a few they seem easier than gybes.

I think the missing piece for me is leaning back somewhat and bringing my feet up, to get the board rotating too. Perhaps I've spent too much time practicing just rotating the sail. I can actually go all the way around with just the sail... er, not quite the same.

If I land a few I'm getting a tattoo.
AJEaster
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3 Dec 2013 12:39pm
evlPanda said..

If I land a few I'm getting a tattoo.



make it something meaningful and deep and prove you are an IN-DUH-VIDUAL.....perhaps the Japanese symbol for "loop" on your shoulder blade or the small of your back? [



OK, I am fired up to get on this band wagon, I have been sailing long enough to have been doing this 10 years ago - now is the time - thanks for the hints and tips all. I am now publicly on register as saying I will be going round by the end of summer - GULP
Zed
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3 Dec 2013 10:53am
evlPanda said..

FlickySpinny said..

Zed said..

very good. Sort of how I learned - doing flat water forwards, much easier psychologically than doing one off a wave.


Same here. Got really hacked off trying to find the right ramp so decided flat was the way forward. Once I'd made that move it took 20 mins to land one.



And a lot of people say that after you've landed a few they seem easier than gybes.

I think the missing piece for me is leaning back somewhat and bringing my feet up, to get the board rotating too. Perhaps I've spent too much time practicing just rotating the sail. I can actually go all the way around with just the sail... er, not quite the same.

If I land a few I'm getting a tattoo.



Psychologically it's hard, but technically it's pretty easy, easier than a gybe - all I really do is setup for the jump, slide my hand down the boom & pull and that's it! If you're struggling, try breaking the move down, it's a bit hard to describe, but I started by going into a gybe then sort of doing a chop hop and rather than landing just falling backwards pulling the rig on top of me so I landed in the water, kinda like what he does in the video. So in the end because you've started to bear off in the gybe it ends up like a half rotation and you go from there. You do a little bit of a rotation and realise it's not so bad.
Sputnik11
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3 Dec 2013 8:24pm
OK - how many are going to commit to a loop this summer? I am gunno get it done.
AUS2001
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3 Dec 2013 11:46pm
Today was the day! I managed to pull off my first forward loops! So happy!




Haircut
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3 Dec 2013 11:47pm
u got it ! it's all gravy from there on + chicks
flanagaj
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WA
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4 Dec 2013 12:58am
Sputnik11 said..
OK - how many are going to commit to a loop this summer? I am gunno get it done.



Me, but I first have to go and have the fear gland removed from my brain that makes me eyeball the crash site when I attempt a loop
Kazza
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4 Dec 2013 10:04am
AUS2001 said..

Today was the day! I managed to pull off my first forward loops! So happy!






Looks the same as doing jump turns snow skiing, keeping the front of the ski's on the snow and the backs up and flicking around. Trouble is you have a rig to contend with windsurfing.
windaddict
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4 Dec 2013 10:05am
One more from Jem Hall, this is another really good one (similar concept to Remko's 4 steps).

.be
Zed
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4 Dec 2013 10:11am
flanagaj said..

Sputnik11 said..
OK - how many are going to commit to a loop this summer? I am gunno get it done.



Me, but I first have to go and have the fear gland removed from my brain that makes me eyeball the crash site when I attempt a loop


Turn your head towards your back hand & look at the clew as you jump.
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