Beaglebuddy said...DAM71 said...Beaglebuddy said...DAM71 said...Beaglebuddy said...
If chiro works that's great, my point is that people who go to the Dr. and expect them to cure their pain, whatever it may be are usually disappointed, you have to figure it out for yourself and that includes asking others for their opinions and what has worked for them.
Beaglebuddy, you are a fool.
Firstly there are many types of health practitioner apart from a general practitioner. Secondly, where are your numbers to prove your above point that, "people are usually disappointed by the their doctors"? What pain are you referring to, that these people want cured? Muscular or maybe intractable pain associated with bone cancer. and finally where should people gain the information to self diagnose? Google perhaps?
Mate, if you don't have anything useful to say might i suggest you say nothing.
First don't call me a fool, name calling is immature and against the rules of the forum. I have plenty of useful opinions for the forum, what have you added with this attack?
Personally I don't know of one person who was cured of back or neck pain by a medical doctor. I have heard peripherally of people who have had back pain cured by surgery but no one I know personally. I know of several people who have had back surgery that has not really helped.
I suffered from lower back pain for years, several doctors wanted to cut on me but eventually the pain went away on it's own.
The side effects from surgery such as scar tissue and adhesions often outweigh any possible benefit from the surgery itself.
When you have a pain in your back, neck, shoulder, knee etc.. you must first consult the internet and find out every possible cause and diagnosis before going to a medical Dr., you will then be educated on the subject and can ask the right questions during the 10 minutes you get with the Dr.
The Dr. has no miracle cure, he can offer pills or surgery, he will gladly cut on you if you let him so he can gain experience.
The real cure is knowledge, it's like giving all your money to a financial adviser and hoping he knows which way the markets will turn, he doesn't know, only guessing.
The Dr. is deluded with people in pain all day long and doesn't have the time to delve into the idiosyncrasies of your particular issues, just like everything else in life, that's down to you if you want it done right.
You provide advice without qualification and make claims that you
cannot support.
How many people do you know that have failed to resolve their back pain? And how many of those had the same complaint and had the same treatment had a complete success? And exactly what was their injury? What is your criteria for a successful outcome? Where are your numbers coming from, you did say your experience was limited. Are you describing 2 of your friends?
And just to highlight some of the gems of advice that your have provided.
I quote "People with sore body parts seldom get relief from doctors."
"The side effects from surgery such as scar tissue and adhesions often outweigh any possible benefit from the surgery itself."
"When you have a pain in your back, neck, shoulder, knee etc.. you must first consult the internet and find out every possible cause and diagnosis before going to a medical Dr."So I will again state that your advice was given unwisely or imprudently, thus making it foolish. Hence my implication that you are a fool.
Now let me qualify myself. I am a physiotherapist and Exercise physiologist with 15 years of clinical experience. I treat on average 80 people per week, and approximately 60% of those have a lower back injury, and we are able to settle more than 95% of these within 4 weeks of conservative treatment. Pain relief medication plays a role, as do investigations such as X-ray, CT and MRI if required. I won't bore you with how i and my staff specifically treat, because in my 20 years experience, people such as yourself, already believe they have the answer.
I have also had and anterior lumbar interbody fusion to correct a foraminal stenosis. Oh you can google that. And for the record this procedure has a 98% success rate in resolving radicular pain.
Might I offer some unsolicited advice (albeit a little foolish), maybe all the hours you seem to spend researching on the computer is the reason you have a sore back?
But I know that my advice will mean nothing to you, so just ignore it, like I hope many ignore the rubbish advice you gave regarding health professionals and how one should go about seeking professional help.
"How many people do you know that have failed to resolve their back pain?" Pretty much everyone I know and come across every day of my life, statistics show at least 80% of the population have unresolved back pain that comes and goes.
'Pain relief medication plays a role"
Not even a medical doctor and you can prescribe medicine? what a racket, so this is where all the people hooked on Oxycontin get their fixes.
"we are able to settle more than 95% of these within 4 weeks"
Statistics show 90% of back pains resolve themselves within 2 months without treatment, how do you help people besides pushing pills and ordering up a bunch of expensive tests the State pays for? Do you have a financial interest in the local MRI clinic? Do you include people pill shopping in your cure rate?
'Now let me qualify myself. I am a physiotherapist and Exercise physiologist with 15 years of clinical experience. I treat on average 80 people per week"
Not even a medical Dr. but you have the attitude of one.
"I have also had and anterior lumbar interbody fusion to correct a foraminal stenosis." We are all so impressed with your big words, let me bow before the physiotherapist, (physical therapist)
So basically you run a pain clinic where some of the people are truly in need but a significant portion of your "patients" are actually addicts out doctor shopping for their opiate fix. Well we all have to make a living somehow.
I don't need to go in detail about all the people killed, maimed and disabled every year that trusted doctors to be in their best interest, unnecessary surgery, surgical mistakes, side effects of surgery, infections picked up in the hospital, medication errors, negative effects of drugs, overdoses, drug interactions, on and on.