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The reason i want that 7 ft board

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Created by laceys lane > 9 months ago, 12 Feb 2015
laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
12 Feb 2015 6:54PM
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last two days around the goldie have been 3 to 4 ft with bigger sets.


not life threatening but with wind and a heavy rip at my local - the alley well paddling a 6 ft board up the point is not fun.


and neither is cooly with the crowd even tho the waves are so good.


I must check up and see if that boards sold so I can order my 7 ft flying fish.

thePup
13831 posts
12 Feb 2015 5:07PM
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7 foot geez where's the rest of it champion

chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
12 Feb 2015 5:13PM
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laceys lane said..
last two days around the goldie have been 3 to 4 ft with bigger sets.


not life threatening but with wind and a heavy rip at my local - the alley well paddling a 6 ft board up the point is not fun.


and neither is cooly with the crowd even tho the waves are so good.


I must check up and see if that boards sold so I can order my 7 ft flying fish.


I have been catching heaps of waves except when I thought I was clever and had a bank in front of maccas to myself....paddled back out after a nice wave,then got caught in a express sweep through to kirra. It was a long walk back

I really do love mine in all conditions its just so much fun.

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
12 Feb 2015 7:29PM
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chrispy said..


laceys lane said..
last two days around the goldie have been 3 to 4 ft with bigger sets.


not life threatening but with wind and a heavy rip at my local - the alley well paddling a 6 ft board up the point is not fun.


and neither is cooly with the crowd even tho the waves are so good.


I must check up and see if that boards sold so I can order my 7 ft flying fish.




I have been catching heaps of waves except when I thought I was clever and had a bank in front of maccas to myself....paddled back out after a nice wave,then got caught in a express sweep through to kirra. It was a long walk back

I really do love mine in all conditions its just so much fun.



yeah, sometimes you just can't beat the sweep. my fav is paddling hard for 5 mins for a 50 m gain, stop and rest for 10 secs- 50 m gone

Cuttlefish
QLD, 1332 posts
12 Feb 2015 8:03PM
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My new 7' AB hasn't even seen the water yet. Too small and lumpy at Noosa for its maiden voyage and the rest of the coast is suffering under this fey ESE-SE'erly airstream.

thedrip
WA, 2355 posts
12 Feb 2015 6:33PM
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7'x20"x3". Single fin, give up on 7' fish. Curren was right. No such thing as a 7' fish is there?

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
12 Feb 2015 8:46PM
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thedrip said..
7'x20"x3". Single fin, give up on 7' fish. Curren was right. No such thing as a 7' fish is there?


sure, this is a fish, but its not some wide swallow tail skeg finned number.

and i seen a 7 ft sized one



smh
NSW, 7269 posts
12 Feb 2015 9:52PM
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They're beautiful looking boards. I've got an old pic of me with a 5'8 MR twinnie . I'll have to dig it out and put it up. Had a few of them . So whats the go with the new ones Lacey do they have 5 plugs ?

thedrip
WA, 2355 posts
12 Feb 2015 6:55PM
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Guess it depends on your definition of a fish. Calling a rose a daffodil doesn't make it a daffodil. I will stick with my thesis - no such thing as a 7' fish.
Fishness for me is defined by performance and design parameters that NO 7' board can fulfill.

SP
10982 posts
12 Feb 2015 7:01PM
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Lacey...
Maybe

markrichardssurfboards.com

But a rounded pin.. I had one 6'8 and I'm not a big guy... it was a keeper but I sold it before I realized

thedrip
WA, 2355 posts
12 Feb 2015 7:15PM
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To be honest I have looked at the 9 footer. Still don't think the big ones are a fish though. ??

One of the small Yallingup hippies would be nice too.


smh
NSW, 7269 posts
12 Feb 2015 10:22PM
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I ended up finding the pic of the old 5'8 MR but it ended up on my avatar now I need to work out how to get the full size ones.

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
12 Feb 2015 10:43PM
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Cuttlefish said..
My new 7' AB hasn't even seen the water yet. Too small and lumpy at Noosa for its maiden voyage and the rest of the coast is suffering under this fey ESE-SE'erly airstream.


My new 6'10 brought in Oct has still not had a run yet. I packed her up tonight though in the big board bag and she is ready for a maiden voyage next week

chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
12 Feb 2015 7:50PM
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To be honest I have looked at the 9 footer. Still don't think the big ones are a fish though. ??

One of the small Yallingup hippies would be nice too.




wow my 7'6 has a wider nose and comes in at 42 litres. funny how volume gets dispersed. I get teased for it being a mini mal....far from it though

thePup
13831 posts
12 Feb 2015 7:51PM
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That Drug Crazed Hippie I mean Bears Hippie looks interesting at 9 foot mate

Cobra
9106 posts
12 Feb 2015 8:42PM
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the reasons you want a 7' board.
Let's see.

Ummm your over 40.
Ummmm you are a fat ****.
Ummm you have nana arms.
Ummm you can't surf a short board .
Ummmm you can't surf a long board.
Ummmm you want to live in limbo.
Ummm you miss the 70's
Ummm you can't afford the rest or the board.
Ummm your a hipster.





thePup
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12 Feb 2015 8:54PM
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Cobra said..
the reasons you want a 7' board.
Let's see.

Ummm your over 40.
Ummmm you are a fat ****.
Ummm you have nana arms.
Ummm you can't surf a short board .
Ummmm you can't surf a long board.
Ummmm you want to live in limbo.
Ummm you miss the 70's
Ummm you can't afford the rest or the board.
Ummm your a hipster.







ummmm better get your nano scarf on coz I reckon lacey is going to fillet you mister cobra

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
13 Feb 2015 8:40AM
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You should of bought that single fin crispy had for sale...

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
13 Feb 2015 7:42AM
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thedrip said..
Guess it depends on your definition of a fish. Calling a rose a daffodil doesn't make it a daffodil. I will stick with my thesis - no such thing as a 7' fish.
Fishness for me is defined by performance and design parameters that NO 7' board can fulfill.


but I think you missed out on what I want the board to do. im not surfing threatening waves.

its a point wave that can be good but also have fat slow sections.


the flying fish rocker from what im feeling on the 6 ft er should be ideal for that type of wave. good speed and still handle sessions.

the board goes extremely well in top to bottom beachies.

the flying fish is mr top 2 selling boards. I reckon there is a reason for that


you go to hi end performance gunny at the alley and your going to suffer.

its actually a very hard place to get the right board for

cheers

Cuttlefish
QLD, 1332 posts
13 Feb 2015 8:01AM
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I find the same thing at my local.
Fat roll-in take off where you need paddle power, early planing and you either have to fade the take off or do a nice deep bottom turn into a carve rather than attempting a vertical turn back up the face for a lip attack that isn't there, resulting in a bogged rail if your riding a typical high performance board without the planing area.
With luck the wall then opens up into a nice workable section that occassionaly barrels before going into a closeout.
So a board like the flying fish is in its element. Over many years I've dialled in my boards and know exactly what works out there but most people dismiss it because they are trying to ride the wrong kinds of boards there in typical surfing for point score style.

On an un-related side note how's this cool explanation of double concaves (which I have on some of my favoured boards):
This comes from a shaper of "normal" boards on a the paipo forum.
There's even mention of longboards in there.

"I agree with both Skiff and s-glider. What I would call "closed-end" concaves provide lift. The lift is supplied by the diversion of moving water from a line parallel to the bottom, to more more downward flow. For this effect to take place, the entire concave must be in the water, as S-glider states. This "lifting" action is best shown by the "spoon-in-the-faucet-flow" demonstration. Turn on a faucet, hold the concave curved side of the spoon into the water flow and observe the spoon being push away from the flow or "lifted".
Conversely, hold the convex side of the spoon into the water flow, and feel the spoon being pulled into the flow. "The typical nose-concave on a nose rider works on this principle, with the lift generated preventing the bottom from sinking too deep and causing drag when the riders weight is on the nose. The bi-lateral concaves in a dual-concave bottom work in a similar fashion as Skiff mentions. These dual concaves are located on each side of the stringer in the rear of the bottom, which is the part of the bottom with most contact with the water during a turn. Lift here (on one side or the other) keeps the bottom from sinking too deep and causing drag when turning.

Concaves have a secondary function which is described by Dick Brewer in "The Surfbook: How design drives performance". Brewer points out how concave bottoms change the shape of the rail, increasing the angle of attack of the rail relative to the wave face, which results in more upward lift captured from the flow of water up the wave face. Brewer adds that V bottoms do just the opposite, releasing more easily from the wave face. When I put V in the tail of my longboards, its because I want the rear third of the board, when weighed, to drift down the face while the front 2/3 of the board is drawn up the face, resulting in a nice, short-radius turn.
The combination of dual concave and V (some call spiral-V) results in a particularly loose performing bottom. The impact of concave on rail performance is mostly seen in single-concave boards. Single-concave boards, without a little V to encourage release, are indeed stiff, but extremely fast. The force of the rider's weight brought to bear on the rail is converted into forward motion as the rail bites into the upward flow of the wave.

But there is a second type of concave which I refer to as an "open" concave, which while closed at one end, is completely open at the other. Like half of a funnel. Bonzer concaves are the best examples of these open concaves. These concaves primarily serve to direct water flow. But, when located close to the rail, they can also serve enhance the rail shape. On the G4, I want these open concaves to (1) act more like afterburners, encouraging water accelerate out the back of the bottom, and (2) to enhance the tail rail, giving it more "bite" into the wave face. Just my $.02..."

Macaha
QLD, 21978 posts
13 Feb 2015 8:05AM
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Scotty I'll save you the read mate,I think they are talking about surfboards.

Cuttlefish
QLD, 1332 posts
13 Feb 2015 8:09AM
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Put the longboard relevant part in Bold to help out.

And a smiley!

wavelength
1195 posts
13 Feb 2015 7:49AM
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A nice 7 or 7'2 Carver would be a 'keeper'.

Cuttlefish
QLD, 1332 posts
13 Feb 2015 12:38PM
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An MR flying fish and a McT carver are like chalk and cheese.

wavelength
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13 Feb 2015 10:55AM
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Cuttlefish said..
An MR flying fish and a McT carver are like chalk and cheese.


Yep.
It's just a board I like that I know would go well in the kind of waves LL is talking about. Love the MR boards too.

MickPC
8266 posts
13 Feb 2015 10:56AM
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I was surfing a 6'11 when I was on the coolie for a week & that sweep was still a bitch

surfbroker
NSW, 1488 posts
13 Feb 2015 2:36PM
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thedrip said..
7'x20"x3". Single fin, give up on 7' fish. Curren was right. No such thing as a 7' fish is there?




I reckon the answer is ..Yes..although it's 6'10"..not quite 7'

Loose as a Goose Quad

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
13 Feb 2015 4:01PM
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www.joshhallsurfboards.com


He's in OZ this year and probably makes the best big fish in the world...

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
13 Feb 2015 5:08PM
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dropped into to see damo.


he's been in japan the lucky so and so.



anyway he's a bit like mac- doesn't know what i've got and what im doing


7ft flying fish ordered . a bit thinner then the stock standard.


funny enough, one of the guys from their shops sunny coast is ordering the same thing for noooooooserrr.



i was going to hold off till cobra could posted a photo of his 7 ft something middie but couldn't be f---ed.



he would just have a hissing fit anyway

SP
10982 posts
13 Feb 2015 4:53PM
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What are the dims on a 7ft flying fish??

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
13 Feb 2015 7:21PM
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SP said..
What are the dims on a 7ft flying fish??


21 3/4 or something x 2 5/8 .


we just decided to make it thinner rather then mess around with the width otherwise it would sort of become pointless.




oh yeah- 7 ft long



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