Long board single fins and were to start..

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MickPC
MickPC
8266 posts
8266 posts
21 Nov 2016 11:31am
Yeah I was thinking that board wouldn't go so well at Mindarie, I remember not making a lot on a heavily rockered 90's shortboard. Especially that reef/sand peak at the North end before the groyne wall....if your gonna surf it in waves with a bit of shape & size, 2 + 1 is the go for sure. That board would probably be fun at Moses in summer.
Simondo
Simondo
VIC
8025 posts
VIC, 8025 posts
21 Nov 2016 7:30pm
More fin = more fun!

The old rule = 1 inch per foot of board... Zero harm in 1"1/8 if you carry "muscle" weight! ;)

Likewise, long waves, point break, definitively carry more fun!

Rocker also has a say though... My 9'0 fun gun feels very different at 10" Single, v's 9ish plus side bites...

Even Glassing weight comes into play... 2 or 3 surfs, you will know what feels right!
jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
21 Nov 2016 8:56pm
Simondo said..
More fin = more fun!

The old rule = 1 inch per foot of board... Zero harm in 1"1/8 if you carry "muscle" weight! ;)

Likewise, long waves, point break, definitively carry more fun!

Rocker also has a say though... My 9'0 fun gun feels very different at 10" Single, v's 9ish plus side bites...

Even Glassing weight comes into play... 2 or 3 surfs, you will know what feels right!


Im not sure on rocker. Left that to Ross..

Am i also right in thinking the middle fin box has different settings. IE forward and back

OMG what is the story, forward makes it trim straight and toward the rear helps it turn

Maybe i should have gone for glassed in fins
MickPC
MickPC
8266 posts
8266 posts
21 Nov 2016 9:35pm
jbshack said..

Simondo said..
More fin = more fun!

The old rule = 1 inch per foot of board... Zero harm in 1"1/8 if you carry "muscle" weight! ;)

Likewise, long waves, point break, definitively carry more fun!

Rocker also has a say though... My 9'0 fun gun feels very different at 10" Single, v's 9ish plus side bites...

Even Glassing weight comes into play... 2 or 3 surfs, you will know what feels right!



Im not sure on rocker. Left that to Ross..

Am i also right in thinking the middle fin box has different settings. IE forward and back

OMG what is the story, forward makes it trim straight and toward the rear helps it turn

Maybe i should have gone for glassed in fins


nah opposite mate centre fin forward will make the board turn better. Just go about 2 inches back from forward imo

I generally agree with Simondo more fin is better than less although too much fin can be a problem in certain situations imo like releasing off the top & trimming in small waves. But that topics another can of worms...& opinions I guess...like he said you will know what feels right
thedrip
thedrip
WA
2355 posts
WA, 2355 posts
22 Nov 2016 7:38am
Two inches from the back of the box is a good starting point. If it feels slow, move it back. I find that's more of a problem than not loose enough.

Having said that, I moved my Lazer Zaps fin around heaps back in the day depending on the waves.

Forward is more of a pivot turn I find too. Back is more rail based.
Simondo
Simondo
VIC
8025 posts
VIC, 8025 posts
22 Nov 2016 11:07am
Yes, definitely less fin for smaller waves and tighter turns...

SP
SP
10982 posts
SP SP
10982 posts
22 Nov 2016 8:27am
Drip said...
Forward is more of a pivot turn I find too. Back is more rail based.

I reckon the opposite is true. That's why logs have the fins right at the back so they pivot.

To me...

Too far forward and you lose drive and it wont turn cause there is no speed...
too far back and you get a lot of drive and it is harder to turn. Somewhere in the middle is the best compromise.

Short wide based fins back in the box for sharper more pivoty turns and long raked fins up in the box for more drawn out carving turns.

In the end it will come down to personal preference. And you probably will end up with a few combo or fin setups you like and suit different days.

Eg, on my LB i have 4 or 5 different fin setups depending on the waves. Weak summer dribblers don't need the same fin setup as a groundswelll at a point break.
jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
22 Nov 2016 8:18pm
Thanks guys, i am really keen to get this board and start trying different options, i think I'm getting the idea, now just to surf


jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
20 Feb 2017 12:24pm
So i thought its been a while since i posted this and i surfed my new board a bit now so should say what i think...

OMG i love i to death. The extra length makes for much easier paddling and makes catching waves a lot easier..What i wanted.

Ive managed to run in rocks and torn out fins, snapped a bit down the nose and had that repaired, but id say its my number one go to board these days. Its turns super nice and if you get your back foot right it goes through the top and turns vertical very easy. Surprisingly good on late steep drops (All be them smaller waves) not what i expected, and runs down the line very nice as you'd want.

I surf it mostly with two small side bites and a 8" FCS fin that i can slide back and forth when playing around, but i find it well back is best for turns.. I did surf it once as a quad but that was the day i hit the bottom and i just haven't gone back that way again yet, mostly been too happy with the current set up.

It feels great under foot, and cruising up forward is fun, but i find i really need to fin further forward to maintain the speed when just standing still. (Waves haven't been that powerful to be fair).

All in all I'm mostly surprised at its manoeuvrability, i also think its making me surf better, (not so lazy) as you do have to drive the turn a but more (well at least set it up better) and for that I'm finding my progression out of turns and into other moves has improved big time.

All in all very happy camper..
Macaha
Macaha
QLD
21982 posts
QLD, 21982 posts
20 Feb 2017 2:35pm
Baby steps mate,your next step 901
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