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n8wx
n8wx
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
15 Feb 2012 11:38pm
I'm looking at trading in my PSH Extra Wide Ripper 9' 11" (145L) it's a great board and rips on the wave however I feel it's just a bit too tippy for me esp in bumpy conditions to have a good fun session on.

At 105kgs I'd like to get a board that is less performance orientated but still surfs well, allows some cross-stepping and paddles easily in flat water.

Thinking sub 10' with decent volume so far am looking at :

Coreban - Icon 10' (162L)
Coreban - Fusion 9' (148L) Not sure how stable at my weight?
Jimmy Lewis - Hanalei 10' (130L)
Jimmy Lewis - Kwad 9' 7" (150L)
Fanatic - Allwave 9'2" (160L)
Laird/Pearson 10' (129L)

Any advise on the above boards or other recommendations in this category?


Cheers
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
15 Feb 2012 11:26pm
From what you are saying you should be looking at 10ft plus and not sub 10 - especially if you are struggling, on what is a very stable board. Get a demo on a 10.5 starboard widepoint or similar.
FYI - dont get hung up on volume numbers cos they wont give you stability - length and width will though. For example - your pearson laird 10 on the list may have the numbers but my 8.5 starboard pro is probably more stable ???
Nobody can offer you appropriate advice on this - you have to demo and find your own perfect fit IMO.
sameh
sameh
WA
310 posts
WA, 310 posts
15 Feb 2012 10:16pm
if you find the psh tippy, id look at the 9.6 allwave. I ve got the 9.2 and the 9.6 and while i can surf both comfortably, i find myself more often than not on the 9.6.
The 9.6 is super stable, more stable than my mana and my psh 10.2 paddler and great to surf. im 106kg and the 9.6 allwave is the best board ive surfed that works for my size and my intermediate ability. Im sure you could get away with the 9.2 but at 105 kg, the 9.6 will be more stable and more fun.

go and demo them, also the 10.2 cabrinha would be suitable. Looking at the boards youve listed, im concerned that some of those are on the edge of the volume needed to float you let alone be stable. Ive demoed all bar the pearson and hanalei and found them all a lot twitchier than the all wave. once again its horses for courses. There are 105 kg guys that can rip on 7.4 129 litre starboards. Then there are average joes like me that need the extra volume and length. imo the allwaves are the best boards for big guys up to intermediate level at the moment. when i plant my 106 kg on the tail the 9.6 is about as loose as i can handle. its stable enough to walk up and down on and still small enough to slot into sucky beachbreaks. Golden rule, demo these boards bofore you buy and good luck.
adolf
adolf
1862 posts
1862 posts
15 Feb 2012 10:27pm
I love my corbean Fusion. You may be ok with the Fusion, but I'd imagine you would have far more joy with the Icon.

I don't think the Fusion paddles all that well in flat water, I find it yaws quite a bit with the standard three fin set up. But I find it a very fun and sturdy board to take out - very happy with it.

Best way to tell is take a couple of your choices out and compare them.
n8wx
n8wx
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
16 Feb 2012 1:53am
Great guys thanks looking like the Icon or Allwave out of these which are the 2 boards I am able to demo on the weekend...

sameh How did you find the Icon to the Allwave?
n8wx
n8wx
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
16 Feb 2012 2:53am
Cheers, I also have an 11'4 Nalu (gave to a mate but i can still take out) which is a fun board but pretty corky in the surf & the new JM 12'6 so a 10' fun 90% wave board would be my preference and also wouldn't be a big heavy board.

billboard said...

From what you are saying you should be looking at 10ft plus and not sub 10 - especially if you are struggling, on what is a very stable board. Get a demo on a 10.5 starboard widepoint or similar.
FYI - dont get hung up on volume numbers cos they wont give you stability - length and width will though. For example - your pearson laird 10 on the list may have the numbers but my 8.5 starboard pro is probably more stable ???
Nobody can offer you appropriate advice on this - you have to demo and find your own perfect fit IMO.


sameh
sameh
WA
310 posts
WA, 310 posts
16 Feb 2012 12:08am
i tried the icon and found it to be pretty stable, and better to surf than the mana i was surfing at the time. i didnt get one because it was too similar to the mana in terms of length. The allwave is a much newer design and is much, much more stable. for my level of surfing the allwave is plenty good enough. I surf it in up to 25 knot sea breeze conditions and i dont come off. Im sure there are guys who will think the icon surfs better and im sure it does for them. As i said previously the allwave appears to be specifically designed for the larger lad and for guys in the 100kg plus range i reckon its as good a surfing sup as you can currently get.
Towny
Towny
NSW
903 posts
NSW, 903 posts
16 Feb 2012 7:50am
10.4 PSH all rounder
AA
AA
NSW
2167 posts
AA AA
NSW, 2167 posts
16 Feb 2012 10:23am
n8wx, if you are after similar performance feel and more stability, the 10-2 WAA (Wide All-rounder) is a board this is a great 'go-to', any wave, any conditions fun board.


I ride this board a lot. Love it. It also comes in 11'1 x 31"

Similar in length with plenty of stability is the 10'4 WAA x 32 1/4" in the Boardworks PVC construction



There is a bit more info here-
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/PSH-104-XX-Allaround-vs-Naish-Mana-10/

We are hoping to be at the next 'shire' demo DEMO so hopefully you can try them then!
cameron2156
cameron2156
WA
149 posts
WA, 149 posts
16 Feb 2012 7:32am
starboard whopper i'm over 120 can ride in onshore days and it still rips
russh
russh
SA
3027 posts
SA, 3027 posts
16 Feb 2012 2:40pm
Hey n8wx - Get hold of a fusion and have a surf - similar volume but wider tail fuller nose and 11 inches shorter and same volume gives you a corky float.

There great fun allround wave boards and solidly built (I've been ridng mine for 18 months now and its just easy to surf and not hard work as its so corky - as far as flat water goes mine with the standard quad doesnt go in a straight line and you would want to put a bigger centre fin in.

Keep tinkering with a new higher performance board - but for 95% of the waves we surf locally its perfect

I have had some experienced "large" dudes ride it and they have no problems - they do comment on the rounded deck - good luck with your search
GizzieNZ
GizzieNZ
4103 posts
4103 posts
16 Feb 2012 2:16pm
n8wx said...

I'm looking at trading in my PSH Extra Wide Ripper 9' 11" (145L) it's a great board and rips on the wave however I feel it's just a bit too tippy for me esp in bumpy conditions to have a good fun session on.

At 105kgs I'd like to get a board that is less performance orientated but still surfs well, allows some cross-stepping and paddles easily in flat water.

Thinking sub 10' with decent volume so far am looking at :

Coreban - Icon 10' (162L)
Coreban - Fusion 9' (148L) Not sure how stable at my weight?
Jimmy Lewis - Hanalei 10' (130L)
Jimmy Lewis - Kwad 9' 7" (150L)
Fanatic - Allwave 9'2" (160L)
Laird/Pearson 10' (129L)

Any advise on the above boards or other recommendations in this category?


Cheers


Harden up !!! Do more flat water paddling to improve your physical fitness !!
Don't think there is any "magic board"
The one you've got sounds pretty tasty

Southwesterly
Southwesterly
112 posts
112 posts
16 Feb 2012 2:24pm
It's not tasty if it's not fun.
n8wx
n8wx
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
16 Feb 2012 5:31pm
Fair call but I'd rather get a board that's better suited and have fun while improving my physical fitness... Not looking for a "magic board" just 1 that's a more comfortable ride and I get the most out of...

GizzieNZ said...

Harden up !!! Do more flat water paddling to improve your physical fitness !!
Don't think there is any "magic board"
The one you've got sounds pretty tasty




mmhard
mmhard
NSW
72 posts
NSW, 72 posts
16 Feb 2012 6:01pm
Dont forget the 9'5 Starboard Widepoint, stable and surfs well for 32 wide but prob simillar dims to your PSH.
halfcut
halfcut
NSW
33 posts
NSW, 33 posts
16 Feb 2012 6:03pm
AA,
shire demo??
when, with who and wat boards u bringing?
jeff
Zeusman
Zeusman
QLD
1363 posts
QLD, 1363 posts
16 Feb 2012 5:25pm
Agreed 100 percent!!
Southwesterly said...

It's not tasty if it's not fun.



GizzieNZ
GizzieNZ
4103 posts
4103 posts
16 Feb 2012 3:57pm
mmhard said...

Dont forget the 9'5 Starboard Widepoint, stable and surfs well for 32 wide but prob simillar dims to your PSH.
[/quote
That board sounds incredibly boring
Aren't we talking about a sport that involves increasing one's skill levels, increasing one's stamina?
If you want junk food go to McDonalds or Burger King for sure

GizzieNZ
GizzieNZ
4103 posts
4103 posts
16 Feb 2012 4:04pm
But I do see your point of view....the sun is shining/waves breaking....you just want to splash around & have a happy time...nothing wrong with that
warwickl
warwickl
NSW
2360 posts
NSW, 2360 posts
16 Feb 2012 7:19pm
I have had experience with a few of the boards you have nominated however I am 76kg and have been SUPping for almost 12 months.

The Coreban Fusion 9' I found corky making it a bit unstable for me however it performs reasobably in surf - at your weight it may be about right volume wise and not corky but I think narrower than your current board. As someone stated earlier it does yaw a bit.

I now have found that volume is not the critical consideration (also said in an earlier post) I have 9' 1" and 8'7" Jimmy Lewis Kwads. The 9' 1" is abt 130l and the 8' 7" 115l and is ample float for my 76kg. The 8' 7" for me is nearly as stable as the Coreban Fusion as not corky. The 9' 1" Jimmy Lewis is more stable than Fusion and performs far better.

I suggest you demo the 9' 7" Jimmy Lewis Kwad it should give you what you want in stability and performance. The JL Kwads also are straight paddlers and catch waves easily. I am loving my 8' 7" JL Kwad so 9' 7" should suit you. (I am also 65 yrs)

Happy to talk direct to you if you wish to contact me.

n8wx
n8wx
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
16 Feb 2012 8:30pm
GizzieNZ, what u are surfing on?

GizzieNZ said...

mmhard said...

Dont forget the 9'5 Starboard Widepoint, stable and surfs well for 32 wide but prob simillar dims to your PSH.
[/quote
That board sounds incredibly boring
Aren't we talking about a sport that involves increasing one's skill levels, increasing one's stamina?
If you want junk food go to McDonalds or Burger King for sure




WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
WA
3183 posts
WA, 3183 posts
16 Feb 2012 5:53pm
Psh 12 gun..

Ticks a lot of boxes.

dylanh
dylanh
NSW
64 posts
NSW, 64 posts
16 Feb 2012 10:21pm
www.c4waterman.com.au

Subvectors or the 9'8 Raimana

n8wx said...

I'm looking at trading in my PSH Extra Wide Ripper 9' 11" (145L) it's a great board and rips on the wave however I feel it's just a bit too tippy for me esp in bumpy conditions to have a good fun session on.

At 105kgs I'd like to get a board that is less performance orientated but still surfs well, allows some cross-stepping and paddles easily in flat water.

Thinking sub 10' with decent volume so far am looking at :

Coreban - Icon 10' (162L)
Coreban - Fusion 9' (148L) Not sure how stable at my weight?
Jimmy Lewis - Hanalei 10' (130L)
Jimmy Lewis - Kwad 9' 7" (150L)
Fanatic - Allwave 9'2" (160L)
Laird/Pearson 10' (129L)

Any advise on the above boards or other recommendations in this category?


Cheers



surfydad
surfydad
QLD
166 posts
QLD, 166 posts
16 Feb 2012 9:30pm
Go custom. Talk to a shaper about what you exactly want.
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
16 Feb 2012 10:39pm
I,m thinking 11' 6 " x 32 , works for me at 100 ish kgs
n8wx
n8wx
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
17 Feb 2012 12:41am
Thanks for the great comments & suggestions...

I also like these 3 Surftech boards

Gerry Lopez Surf Music 10'
Channel Islands Caddi 10'
Laguna Bay 10'2"

Any feedback on these?
boardbumps
boardbumps
NSW
698 posts
NSW, 698 posts
17 Feb 2012 9:27am
Not Bad, 13 over seas boards and 1 australian board (laguna) all made in Asia.
1 call for an Aussie custom
stoddart
stoddart
NSW
7 posts
NSW, 7 posts
17 Feb 2012 2:31pm
Hey there,
i also am a big fan of Jimmy Lewis boards and they way they ride. the boards ride super smooth in the water which is a big fact'r in stability stakes. the 9'7 Kwad sounds your go but i know the 9'5 Striker is a option as well. you find the tail width and the rocker also comes into play. the 9'5 Striker sits long in the water and way more stable than say the Hanalei and really doesn't feel like big board. in the early days most brands were adding more thickness than what was needed. i know with the latest JL models the thickness has been decreased and this has only improved the performance across the board. hope that's useful
towball
towball
4634 posts
4634 posts
17 Feb 2012 11:54am
He surfs a PSH 9'5 wide ripper & a 10'3? PSH AA we see a bit more of the AA
n8wx said...

GizzieNZ, what u are surfing on?

GizzieNZ said...

mmhard said...

Dont forget the 9'5 Starboard Widepoint, stable and surfs well for 32 wide but prob simillar dims to your PSH.
[/quote
That board sounds incredibly boring
Aren't we talking about a sport that involves increasing one's skill levels, increasing one's stamina?
If you want junk food go to McDonalds or Burger King for sure







adolf
adolf
1862 posts
1862 posts
17 Feb 2012 12:53pm
I had a mate who ordered three boards from an Aussie custom shaper some years ago. After numerous excuses and delays, the shaper couldn't be contacted for a few years.

I don't know how it panned out in the end - I'll have to ask him.

Just saying, if you go custom - make sure the shaper is as good as his word.
mmhard
mmhard
NSW
72 posts
NSW, 72 posts
17 Feb 2012 6:12pm
GizzieNZ said...

mmhard said...

Dont forget the 9'5 Starboard Widepoint, stable and surfs well for 32 wide but prob simillar dims to your PSH.
[/quote
That board sounds incredibly boring
Aren't we talking about a sport that involves increasing one's skill levels, increasing one's stamina?
If you want junk food go to McDonalds or Burger King for sure




? Incredibly boring no, fun board that allows me to surf varying conditions for my size and ability definately.
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