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hilly
hilly
WA
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20 Feb 2011 8:41pm
Very selective editing with just the choke hold shown for 99%.

Would have liked to see more of this bit looked pretty even both sides having a go. Always two sides to a story not sure Burleigh is the place to expect Aloha


MIKO
MIKO
QLD
408 posts
QLD, 408 posts
20 Feb 2011 11:30pm
hilly said...

Very selective editing with just the choke hold shown for 99%.

Choke hold/submit , Man rape in his world.
send him back to what ever rock he crawled from under.
Tux
Tux
VIC
3829 posts
Tux Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
21 Feb 2011 9:15am
Be interesting to see what happens to an aussie if he beat the **** out a hawaiian in hawaii....my guess is they would either

A. end up in hospital or
B. End up in hospital

Most of the Qld points have just as many overcrowding issues as the spots in Hawaii and just a short a window of good days, why does it seem to be acceptable for them to beat the **** out of us when we step mout of line over there but if we give one of there groms a mouthful overe here get the ****s on...double standard....Sunnys a ****wit!!
JonWest
JonWest
QLD
105 posts
QLD, 105 posts
21 Feb 2011 8:52am
AA said...

Sunny needs to spend more time on his standup board






Good to see commercial assassination is alive and well
Fred Rubble
Fred Rubble
WA
96 posts
WA, 96 posts
21 Feb 2011 9:55am
Doggie wasn't involved was he
All jokes aside i think if most people's family was getting a beat down or involved in a fight most people would run over 100m to protect and stick up for them.
The only difference in this case is that Sunny is the 2000 world champ
He is a very passionate competitor in and out of the water
You think he's going to stand by and watch his son get beat up
Maybe he did go a bit too far but he's always had violence issues
Also if you notice the way the Burleigh kid is holding his fists its obvious he has been trained to fight. Sunny probably noticed this as well
As for the nosy camera man. I think he is trying to steal my Stupidstupid name
divaldo
divaldo
SA
2879 posts
SA, 2879 posts
21 Feb 2011 1:04pm
Adelaide is Heaps Good!
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
NSW, 1525 posts
21 Feb 2011 3:00pm
Stupidstupid said...

Doggie wasn't involved was he
All jokes aside i think if most people's family was getting a beat down or involved in a fight most people would run over 100m to protect and stick up for them.
The only difference in this case is that Sunny is the 2000 world champ
He is a very passionate competitor in and out of the water
You think he's going to stand by and watch his son get beat up
Maybe he did go a bit too far but he's always had violence issues
Also if you notice the way the Burleigh kid is holding his fists its obvious he has been trained to fight. Sunny probably noticed this as well
As for the nosy camera man. I think he is trying to steal my Stupidstupid name


My understanding was that the fella' who got beaten was a young (early 20s) Burleigh local and that he and Sunny's kid had words in the water the usual hassling that goes on there-and the words were taken offence to and that Sunny stepped in after Flores stepped in to defend Sunny's son.

What Sunny did to the kid was waaaay over the top of what is a reasonable rational reaction-if anyone here did that and there was that type of video evidence there'd be a GBH or attempted murder charge quick smart-imagine if Sunny was a footballer or golfer or tennis player and this happened and was captured on film like this!

And Flores-what a fool-number 7 in the world-competing in the comp and he does this in front of hundreds-with cameras there!?

Wonder what Quiky thinks being associated with a sportsman like that? Again, imagine if it was another sport? Tiger just sowed some wild oats and was dropped like a maggoty turd.
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
21 Feb 2011 2:41pm
Stupidstupid said...

Doggie wasn't involved was he



Hmmmm - funny you say that cos doggie is actually on the Goldy
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
21 Feb 2011 2:42pm
AA said...

Sunny needs to spend more time on his standup board






Would you have been so quick to post this pic if he was posing beside a PSH ?
Birchy
Birchy
NSW
56 posts
NSW, 56 posts
21 Feb 2011 9:26pm
What were Suplove thinking signing Sunny Garcia up in the first place given his history of violence and Suplove's Zen lifestyle position? "Suplove. It's about being connected. It's about respecting and taking care of each other, the environment and ourselves."

At least Suplove now have the opportunity to lead by example and publicly terminate their business relationship. Who they gonna send round to collect the boards from Sunny's place though?

I'm a fan of Suplove but won't be buying the Sunny Garcia board if it comes out: www.hugedomains.com/domain_profile.cfm?d=supbusiness&e=com

hilly
hilly
WA
8120 posts
WA, 8120 posts
22 Feb 2011 10:37pm
Sorry PC boys but if a 20 something was having a go at my 16 yr old son I would step in as Sunny did

TV edited it media hype blew it up.

Dazza65
Dazza65
QLD
389 posts
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23 Feb 2011 11:00am
hilly said...

Sorry PC boys but if a 20 something was having a go at my 16 yr old son I would step in as Sunny did

TV edited it media hype blew it up.




MMMM

Look my son is in a fight...what do I do?

A.
Drag my son away and break the fight up, basically defuse the situation

B.
Run in and pound the guy my son's fighting into submission and then assault an innocent person on the beach because they filmed my brain snap.

Sunny had this choice but chose violence as a solution and look at the result, and it could have been so much worse. I am sure in hindsight Sunny regrets his choice.
Imagine if every sporting father chose the same solution as Sunny, you would have dad's running onto the footy field to knuckle someone who dare fight with their son. You cant pick up a local paper without reading about some young persons life being tragically effected from actions of aggression. As they say 'One Punch can Kill'.
I am definitely not PC, I just abhor violence
pmorgan1974
pmorgan1974
NSW
1080 posts
NSW, 1080 posts
23 Feb 2011 12:06pm
hilly said...

Sorry PC boys but if a 20 something was having a go at my 16 yr old son I would step in as Sunny did

TV edited it media hype blew it up.



Sorry mate, I can relate to the anger that he would have felt when that guy had a go at his son. But a grown man laying into a 20 year old is not cool, unless you felt your kids life was in danger. Smarter ways to deal with the situation.
Zimbo Reagan
Zimbo Reagan
WA
469 posts
WA, 469 posts
23 Feb 2011 9:12am
Dazza65 said...
A.
Drag my son away and break the fight up, basically defuse the situation

B.
Run in and pound the guy my son's fighting into submission and then assault an innocent person on the beach because they filmed my brain snap.



Sitting at my desk calmly sipping my coffee I would chose A, but in the heat of the moment and with adrenalin pumping and my young son being punched would most likley be B, IMO natural human reaction. (although no one would be filming me )
SUP8383
SUP8383
NSW
90 posts
NSW, 90 posts
23 Feb 2011 12:26pm
The guy was probably being an aggressive "local" F*wit and finally someone has hit back. I am with hilly on this one, if it was my son = same reaction.
pmorgan1974
pmorgan1974
NSW
1080 posts
NSW, 1080 posts
23 Feb 2011 12:37pm
SUP8383 said...

The guy was probably being an aggressive "local" F*wit and finally someone has hit back. I am with hilly on this one, if it was my son = same reaction.


from Flores's account the local was being a tool and I would tend to take his word for it, and probably deserved it.

Sunny should have just one of Will Farrell's classic's on the nob "I would like to climb over your anger wall, because i am sure the view of the other side would be glorious"
Legion
Legion
WA
2222 posts
WA, 2222 posts
23 Feb 2011 11:47am
hilly said...

Sorry PC boys but if a 20 something was having a go at my 16 yr old son I would step in as Sunny did

TV edited it media hype blew it up.



Did you see this? Looks like the son is in no danger and not even involved when Sunny steps in.

http://surfinglife.com.au/news/asl-news/5939-7000-fightin-words

teatrea
teatrea
QLD
4177 posts
QLD, 4177 posts
23 Feb 2011 3:04pm
All you guys who think what Garcia did was reasonable in that situation need to a long hard look in the mirror.I wonder how many of you have been involved in acts of violence , my guess not many.Its usually the pseudo tough guys that like to talk up this kind off stuff.
aus301
aus301
QLD
2039 posts
QLD, 2039 posts
23 Feb 2011 3:33pm
teatrea said...

All you guys who think what Garcia did was reasonable in that situation need to a long hard look in the mirror.I wonder how many of you have been involved in acts of violence , my guess not many.Its usually the pseudo tough guys that like to talk up this kind off stuff.


Completely agree.
SUP8383
SUP8383
NSW
90 posts
NSW, 90 posts
23 Feb 2011 4:33pm
easy tea tree, I am sure that no-one on this forum condones any type of violence - me included. People need to lighten up a little and not take what is written literally in every instance. The fact is that no-one here has the full story - Garcia may have been justified to get pissed off and defend his son however his actions were excessive.
teatrea
teatrea
QLD
4177 posts
QLD, 4177 posts
23 Feb 2011 3:56pm
SUP8383 said...

easy tea tree, I am sure that no-one on this forum condones any type of violence - me included. People need to lighten up a little and not take what is written literally in every instance. The fact is that no-one here has the full story - Garcia may have been justified to get pissed off and defend his son however his actions were excessive.


I dont take things very seriousley , usuallyI wonder if their would be any support for Sunny if he wasnt Sunny?Two sides to every storey , as every one knows.You can only call it as you see it mate.I might me be wrong totally , the dude could be the nicest guy ever and just had a brain explosion , and the other dude might have threatend his sons life.Thats the funny thing about opinions every ones got one.And i stand by mine
SUP8383
SUP8383
NSW
90 posts
NSW, 90 posts
23 Feb 2011 5:35pm
I am going to start using it as a verb. For example: Someone cut me off driving the other day - I felt like getting out of the car and Sunny Garcia-ing him.
teatrea
teatrea
QLD
4177 posts
QLD, 4177 posts
23 Feb 2011 4:42pm
SUP8383 said...

I am going to start using it as a verb. For example: Someone cut me off driving the other day - I felt like getting out of the car and Sunny Garcia-ing him.


Lol
Minkee
Minkee
QLD
225 posts
QLD, 225 posts
23 Feb 2011 5:05pm
Statement from Flores:

“Hey, for now, all I can say is that everything that has been said on the news and all the stories people hear are told in a different way which makes it look very bad. I just stood up for 16 year-old Stone Garcia while a local surfer was getting aggressive with him. Next thing everybody knows, he got aggressive with me, I defended myself and we went at each other fighting face to face all the way to the beach. Somebody told Stone's dad, Sunny Garcia, that his son was in trouble so he ran down. Any parent would of done the same thing if their son were in trouble.

Anyway, the ASP decided to take me out of the event because a new rule says that no violence should be tolerated in a professional event. I agree with that rule 100% but it wasn't the case for me, I just defended myself while I was training in the contest area before my heat. People have to understand that family and friends are everything for me and I will never walk away from it (especially when it's a under 18 boy ). I hate violence and I never get into any troubles like that. I love Australia and I have most of my best friends here. All the Burleigh boys have always been so nice to me so I won't let this story change that. I'm so sad this story happened but I don't regret anything. These things happen in life unfortunately and I will never let anyone walk thru me.” – Jeremy Flores

I cant disagree with Flores and would hope my mates react the same way in a similar situation. As for Sunny, it looks a bit OTT but how do you know how you would react if it was your blood involved?
Flounder
Flounder
QLD
137 posts
QLD, 137 posts
23 Feb 2011 5:22pm
Doesn't matter how tough you think you are, there's always someone out there tougher. Sunny himself was on the receiving end of a big butt whooping during a road rage incident in California a few years ago. I'm sure Burleigh Boy didn't expect to have to take on someone like Sunny when he started on a 16 year old. Amazing how 90% of people can go through their whole lives without being involved in any incident like this but the other knucklehead 10% just seem to attract trouble wherever they go.
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