Starboard Surf Race 12'6

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PTWoody
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29 Apr 2010 3:22pm
Don't know about the Surf Race but I heard a whisper that the "New" in carbon could possibly nudge $4K which is why we may very well never see one here in Australia.
DavidJohn
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29 Apr 2010 4:30pm


The fin position?.......can someone give me a reason for its location 2' from the tall?



All I can think of is.. 'maneuverability'.. and screw the speed and straight tracking..

DJ

billboard
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29 Apr 2010 4:36pm
I think its fantastic to see the arrival of new race boards in Australia and can't wait to see the impact that the new starboards and SIC boards to name just two will have on the domestic race scene. Me thinks it will have everyone else here struggling to keep up and now that there is such a strong interest in racing here I am sure the competitive paddlers will want to be on these new arrivals so it will be interesting to see what sort of prices they are asking.
JonathanC
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29 Apr 2010 5:32pm
I don't have the original fin yet, board shipped without it but they are on the way. As far as the fin position goes well I guess you would need to talk to Brian Szymanski about that. The fin in the photos is a fin I bought from John at G Board, but it felt way too big in the first try out, the board tracks very straight, completely different to The Pin which really seems to need the bigger than stock fin to allow you to paddle on one side for any distance.

Here is a picture of the fin I'm guessing will come with the board.



Interesting the whole fin position thing, this is a down-wind surfing board. You need to be able to turn the board without stepping back much at all, if the fin was further back I don't think you could do that.

The reality with a board like this is that surfing mainly consists of turning from straight down the wave to trimming across the face of the wave, you also need to be able to turn pretty quickly to change direction to pick up a swell coming from a different direction from the one you are already on. Very different requirements to a normal surf board. I've heard it described as always pointing the board "downhill", you constantly look to get the board to track into a lower piece of water than the one you are currently on. By focussing on that rather than trying to get the killer wave you will actually be going fast enough to catch that killer wave when it comes along and the average speed will be much faster. When you see someone really expert doing this it almost confounds belief, they seem to dart left and right on little swells you can hardly see, paddle less than you are and just blast past.

On down wind boards with rudders you can achieve this "darting" by constantly steering but a board like this needs to be super manoeuvrable but also feel stable when trimmed onto a bigger face. Pretty complex set of requirements to deal with for any shaper.
tha dogman
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29 Apr 2010 6:47pm
yo lacey

retail prices are

12'6" x 29" Free Race Glass - $2499
12'6" x 32" Free Race Glass - $2499
12'6" x 25 The New Brushed Carbon - $3699
12'6" x 25" The New Glass - $2599
12'6" x 26.5 Surf Race Glass - $2649

looking at the glass surf race jonathan would be right in saying you get no change with $4000 for the carbon surf race
PTWoody
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29 Apr 2010 7:05pm
Thanks for posting those prices Doggie. So they are actually bringing in the New? $3699 is not cheap but if someone wants a ridiculously fast flat water racer, it would be great to see. Presumably only the 25" is coming and not the 23" if you are posting the full list there. As a matter of interest, do you have available the 2010 K15 prices including the steering option?
tha dogman
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29 Apr 2010 7:09pm
sorry i dont know about the K15

i just got the prices of the 12'6 range as someone was interested in them

but they freaked at the price of them
PTWoody
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29 Apr 2010 7:09pm
JonathanC said...


Here is a picture of the fin I'm guessing will come with the board.







I so want that bamboo fin on my Pin. Hope they sell it as an optional accessory. And thanks for the explanation on fin position with the new board. That makes a lot of sense.
PTWoody
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29 Apr 2010 7:13pm
tha dogman said...

sorry i dont know about the K15

i just got the prices of the 12'6 range as someone was interested in them

but they freaked at the price of them



I can imagine they would freak. I'd hate to peel off the best part of $4K for a dedicated 12'6" race board only to have local race organisers lean towards 14' or open class as the standard.
laceys lane
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29 Apr 2010 7:47pm
tha dogman said...

yo lacey

retail prices are

12'6" x 29" Free Race Glass - $2499
12'6" x 32" Free Race Glass - $2499
12'6" x 25 The New Brushed Carbon - $3699
12'6" x 25" The New Glass - $2599
12'6" x 26.5 Surf Race Glass - $2649

looking at the glass surf race jonathan would be right in saying you get no change with $4000 for the carbon surf race


yep, there the ones i saw. you can get 17' full carbon with steering for less than that by the local crew- would want to be very good
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