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Teeps
Teeps
VIC
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16 Mar 2012 2:32am



Thank you all for your patience... The results are in.

On Monday the 12th March 2012, RPS The Boardstore in conjunction with SUP VIC, staged a world-first side-by-side test of 14′ current model production stand-up paddleboards available to buyers here in Melbourne. It is important to note that not every 14′ board in the world could be included in this test as we do not have access to all makes and models locally. Furthermore, the conditions decreed that this would be a flat water test and therefore unavoidably favours boards intended for flat water racing. We do not apologise for any of this, however we welcome other groups conducting their own tests in different conditions using other boards as it all adds to the global knowledge base.

The test run was done at Half Moon Bay, on Port Phillip Bay in Melbourne. The course was a 150+150m run with a 180 degree turn at one end and a standing start. At the start of each round, each of the 14 paddlers randomly drew a board out of a hat, to determine the board selection for that round. They were timed manually using line of sight to determine the start and end crossing. Each paddler proceeded to the starting mark and from a stationary start, were counted-down 3-2-1-Go! The starting procedure and stopwatch were consistent throughout the day, with Stuart Thomas acting as chief timekeeper.

Each round, the times were marked down, all paddlers returned to shore, and drew the next board from a hat.

The results:

Accumulative time ranking of each board:

This is based on a clean set of data from 9 of the 14 paddlers who completed a run on each board - The reason for this is that one paddler sustained an injury late in the test process and had to pull out. Another had a pressing engagement and had to leave early. Another suffered from a timing failure in one run, and another accidentally paddled two boards twice and then failed to paddle two of the boards. We also had one paddler fall on one of the runs and the time recorded in that run appeared to be an unfair handicap for that board. With all these factors in mind, the accumulated time for each board across 14 paddlers is somewhat misleading, given some boards have times from 14 paddlers, some from 13 and some from 12. Therefore, in tabulating totals for each board, we have removed the times recorded by the paddlers who did not complete a time on all 14 boards. That leaves us with an accumulated total from 9 of the paddlers. We feel the integrity of the results is still maintained as the 5 incomplete paddlers were not by any means the slowest or heaviest paddlers, and a good cross section remains.

However you are certainly free to analyse and postulate on the results from the raw data as you see fit, which is available on the SUP VIC WEBSITE: www.supvic.com/the-rps-supvic-ultimate-14-board-test/

So the accumulative total (each paddler's time on the board added together) for each board ranked by best time:

1. 19:06 - Starboard Ace 25
2. 19:36 (equal) - DC14 & NSP
4. 19:42 - Naish Javelin
5. 19:48 - Fanatic Fly Race Flat
6. 19:50 - Surftech Bark Dominator
7. 19:51 - Starboard Ace Pro
8. 19:52 - Starboard Ace 27
9. 20:10 - Surftech JM Paddleboards
10. 20:26 - Naish Glide
11. 20:34 - Fanatic Fly Race Open
12. 20:40 - Starboard Pierce Touring
13. 20:45 - Sunny King
14: 21:00 - Starboard Open Ocean AST

As for the paddlers, the top 10 fastest times posted were:

1:52 - CAMO on the Starboard Ace 25"

1:54 - LIGHTNING on the NSP

1:54 - CAMO on the Starboard Ace 27"

1:56 - CAMO on the Fanatic Flat

1:56 - LIGHTNING on the Starboard Ace Pro

1:56 - WOOZ on the Naish Javelin

1:57 - LIGHTNING on the DC14

1:57 - LAZZA on the JM

1:57 - LIGHTNING on the Bark

1:57 - LIGHTNING on the JM

So it's all good and well to say that this board or that board was the overall fastest board, but what does this mean to you? Probably of greater benefit is not so much knowing which board went fastest for an elite paddler, but rather, which board is best for you. Hopefully these results can help you choose, but the best advice we can offer is demo, demo, demo. Use these results to help you decide which boards are most likely suitable for you. Check out the paddlers in the test whose height and weight most closely matches your own and see which boards they set the best times on, all on the SUP VIC website:

A full breakdown of the event, and times per paddler, board, and the raw data can be viewed at the SUP VIC website:

www.supvic.com/the-rps-supvic-ultimate-14-board-test/

Thanks to everyone who participated, to RPS for staging the event, to the retailers & individuals who lent us the boards, to Stu for being the patient timekeeper, to Jamie, Cam & DJ for documenting the event and to PT Woody for helping organise the event & collating the results. Sorry if I forgot anyone.

See you on the water.
PeterP
PeterP
873 posts
873 posts
16 Mar 2012 1:12am
Great set of data - my conclusion is: Camo wins!
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
16 Mar 2012 6:49am
Thanks Tim.. Great job with the results..

Watching Cam paddle during that test made me think he was trying to spear a fish with his KeNalu paddle every time he took a stroke.. Gongrats Cam.. you animal..

DJ
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi
NSW
14256 posts
NSW, 14256 posts
16 Mar 2012 7:39am
Nice work and a big congrats to everyone involved. I am glad to see that my fanatic will maintain some value now after this test

ockanui
ockanui
VIC
1321 posts
VIC, 1321 posts
16 Mar 2012 7:42am
well done Tim, Paul and Sup Vic + RPS, considering how much inputing of data there was, that is an impressive layout and result

Camo what a fitness machine...well done

and not to mention the new lad on the paddle,[6 months maybe?] Tom aka "lightning" future's looking good for Vicco, [under the wing of RPS]

HumanCartoon
HumanCartoon
VIC
2098 posts
VIC, 2098 posts
16 Mar 2012 8:28am
Nice work collating and presenting all that Tim & Paul, especially the rider profiles.
(I think we're going to have to put cement in young Tom's camelbak while he's not looking, kid's only been paddling for one summer)

Lots of good learning in this one, we'll get better and better at running these tests and I'm looking forward to maybe even paddling in the next one.
Teeps
Teeps
VIC
228 posts
VIC, 228 posts
16 Mar 2012 8:46am
I'd like to see a paddle test.

One board, different paddlers and paddles.

Kialoa, naish, SB, KeNalu, quick blade, sunny King, mike Fry...
lookToSea
lookToSea
NSW
183 posts
NSW, 183 posts
16 Mar 2012 9:15am
had a feeling the NSP would be a surprise at the top of the leader board
stimo
stimo
WA
874 posts
WA, 874 posts
16 Mar 2012 7:19am
Good stuff guys very interesting good to see my DC investment is paying off
SASUPCrew
SASUPCrew
SA
106 posts
SA, 106 posts
16 Mar 2012 10:33am
Great results from a job well done!
Would be great to hear from any of the paddlers their opinions on the turning ability of the boards. i.e. Were the fastest boards necessarily the quickest on the turns?
Also, have ridden the Deep Ocean race recently & its very impressive, as its locally manufactured would have been great to have it in the mix. Cheers, Phil
PTWoody
PTWoody
VIC
3982 posts
VIC, 3982 posts
16 Mar 2012 11:15am
SASUPCrew said...



Would be great to hear from any of the paddlers their opinions on the turning ability of the boards. i.e. Were the fastest boards necessarily the quickest on the turns?




I've asked for all the Paddlers to contribute their personal thoughts on the boards. Here's a couple:

MJ: Whilst the starboard 25/27 and javelin are fast boards they took a lot more to stay upright and dry, based upon the comfort factor and speed, the fanatic flat was No1, starboard pro and JM boards after that, on looks I would go for the JM

Hoagie: I personally believe that it's all about confidence when you step on the board. I never felt comfortable on the Starboard Ace etc and my times showed this. I like the traditional surfboard shape, they allow you to move around the board depending on the conditions. Bark and JM were my favourites.

Jono: In my opinion the ones that felt the fastest (in no particular order) : The naish javelin, The bark (which in all of my brilliance i managed to fall off, maybe had something to do with the great big bloody boat that cruised by), the JM, the fanatic fly open water, the starboard pierce touring. The easiest to ride (most stable) were the JM, sunnyking, and the naish glide.

Lightning: All my fast times were set early on stable boards that were easy to move around on like the NSP and JM. While boards like the Jav and aces felt fast I didn't have the skill to keep them quick over the course. Endurance was also important I lost time quickly in comparison to most other paddlers, so although I was slower on the fanatic flat it was my favorite board.

Lazza: In my opinion the fastest boards are definitely the sb ace boards, problem is they don't do 180 deg turns too good, so a good 3 - 4 seconds lost there. The best all round imo would have to be the javlin, jm, Bark, and fanatic. In the surf definitely the dc for it's stability , reasonable speed,and great at pivot turns. I was bit iffy about the sb pro, it didn't track as well as the others and when wind or waves caught that upside-down nose, it would quickly want to go off course, I also experienced the same thing on the sb bop. The sunny king, all I can think of is "yellow peril", may be we will see it sitting in some park for kids to graffiti on.

PT: At my weight, these 14' boards are mostly unsuited, with the possible exceptions of the Starboard Aces and the Fanatics. I had my GPS watch gathering top end speeds and the Starboard topped 14.2km/h whereas all other 14' boards were in the 11s and 12s. As a point of comparison, I took a Fanatic 12'6" red rocket out at the end of the test when I was completely knackered and when the conditions were toughest, and I set my second fastest speed of 14.0km/h. So the lesson there is 12'6" boards are actually as fast as the fastest 14' boards when you're a feather weight.
Teeps
Teeps
VIC
228 posts
VIC, 228 posts
16 Mar 2012 12:18pm
SASUPCrew said...

Would be great to hear from any of the paddlers their opinions on the turning ability of the boards.


I'm not great at turning, something which became painfully clear on this type of course, and something I need to work on, so I can't really make a comparison. I sucked equally on all board in my turns.

However, a few personal observations of the boards in general...

As a heavier set guy (103kg), I found a few of the boards a little uncomfortable, particularly the Starboard Ace Pro (which has low volume, and I felt like I was almost submerged) and the Naish Javelin (which I surprisingly got one of my best times on - however I did fall off just before my run started, and maybe paddled like hell to have it over and done with).

I felt naturally comfortable, surprisingly, on the SB Ace 25, as I am used to the low centre of gravity and dug-outs of the Starboard models.

The Bark, DC and the JM felt good. Definitely felt the difference in the Open Ocean boards under these conditions. I usually like the SB Open Ocean in rough conditions as it's very forgiving, but it's not quick in flat conditions.

My pick, I loved the SB Ace 27. It had the extra width and stability I need for my weight, and as I said, I am a bug SB fan and love the low centre of gravity of the dugout style, which is similar to my own K-15 I paddle.

kissa
kissa
NSW
523 posts
NSW, 523 posts
16 Mar 2012 12:54pm
How did you manage to turn the SB Ace 25 180 degrees
The only way I can think of is to kind of back paddle on one side
I have not seen anyone do it well. So I am surprised it was still fastest...
Yes - I am also in the SB fan club...and am happy to see my SB boards not copped heavy depreciation as a result of this test
PTWoody
PTWoody
VIC
3982 posts
VIC, 3982 posts
16 Mar 2012 1:39pm
kissa said...

How did you manage to turn the SB Ace 25 180 degrees
The only way I can think of is to kind of back paddle on one side
I have not seen anyone do it well. So I am surprised it was still fastest...


Perhaps a little scary to think what the results may have been if this was a straight line test.

The best way to turn an Ace is not so much a back paddle but rather a Candace Appleby backhand sweep from the opposite side across the bow. The board slows right down but at least you come around reasonably quickly and you're ready to jump back on the throttle. Back foot kick turns are not impossible but very difficult and I'm not at all convinced that even done well, they'd be any more efficient than the backhand bow turn.
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
16 Mar 2012 1:55pm
I found the Ace was one of the easier boards to turn with wide sweeping strokes because the board is like a big spoon underneath and this alowes the nose to be pushed sideways unlike the cutting/piercing nose on some of the other boards that just want to catch and go straight forcing you to get way back on the tail and lift the nose clear of the water.. In a straight line the Ace seems to skim across the surface where the other boards push and part the water.. I was very surprised at how well the Ace went into the wind considering how high it is.. Side winds might me another story.. The deep standing area is not my cup-a-tea..

DJ
SASUPCrew
SASUPCrew
SA
106 posts
SA, 106 posts
16 Mar 2012 1:44pm
Once again all good feedback, we are lucky in our sport there is so much r & d & so many quality choices. At the end of the day I guess it comes down to 'horses for courses' & the quality of the 'jockey' on top!
BWDave
BWDave
VIC
239 posts
VIC, 239 posts
16 Mar 2012 3:05pm
Incredibly comprehensive results on the SUP VIC site. There is a lot to digest but I am astounded to see that Jon completed 14 boards and his time range was 15 seconds between fastest and slowest!
Also like the paddler profile though if DJ is 6'7" then Hoagie must be over 7'
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
16 Mar 2012 3:34pm
BWDave said...

Incredibly comprehensive results on the SUP VIC site. There is a lot to digest but I am astounded to see that Jon completed 14 boards and his time range was 15 seconds between fastest and slowest!
Also like the paddler profile though if DJ is 6'7" then Hoagie must be over 7'


I'm actually between 6'3" and 6'4" .. maybe it was because I was wearing my high heeled Crocs.. or my new hair cut had a bit of spike..

DJ
Lobes
Lobes
885 posts
885 posts
16 Mar 2012 1:04pm
Fantastic effort from the paddlers and stats gurus for collating this data.

This will make fascinating reading and is incredibly helpful for improving the knowledge base of the sport.

Bravo!
Farquo
Farquo
QLD
108 posts
QLD, 108 posts
16 Mar 2012 6:06pm
So DJ, your selling the Naish and going DC like the rest of us...
or do you o it all again with alternate paddles.......
camo hosk
camo hosk
VIC
613 posts
VIC, 613 posts
16 Mar 2012 7:07pm
My thoughts on the boards are firstly how big a gap there is back to the open ocean boards with most of them having high nose rocker which are the Naish Glide,Starboard Open Ocean AST,Fanatic Fly Open and the Sunny King,when paddling these for as much speed as possible I found myself thinking how much I'd rather be on any of the remaining boards,then again they may be better suited to different conditions but the more recently released designs glide great on flatwater, can handle a downwind paddle and choppy seas so I'm thinking it has more to do with the shape.
The Starboard Pierce Touring is more of an allrounder as it glides well for what its name suggest and felt very stable so must be able to float a heavy weight or half the family,
the Javelin is starting to date and to tippy if the wind picks up unless you have the balance of a ballerina,hope Naish updates their 14ft shapes soon like they have the 12'6ers,
that leaves the NSP,Bark Dominator,Surftech JM only separated by price and which ones preferred after demoing,the DC custom with the advantage of any tweaking for personal preference and a locally made product always a good thing also this DC was made for a heavier paddler than me so have to take that into account,the Fanatic Fly Race felt very slick,full carbon and has a slight speed edge over the previous mentioned boards,
I'm liking the Starboard Aces,was a bit surprised how quick they were on the dead flatwater on test day as the design is so different and thought they were better suited at handling the choppy bay conditions we get here so was good to discover how well they compared.
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
16 Mar 2012 8:32pm
Thanks everyone , the NSP seemed to rate fairly well , how wide is it ?
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
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16 Mar 2012 9:04pm
SandS said...

Thanks everyone , the NSP seemed to rate fairly well , how wide is it ?


It's 28" wide but doesn't feel tippy at all... in those conditions..

DJ

SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
16 Mar 2012 9:10pm
DavidJohn said...

SandS said...

Thanks everyone , the NSP seemed to rate fairly well , how wide is it ?


It's 28" wide but doesn't feel tippy at all... in those conditions..

DJ




Have you ever tried one in one of your cranking down winders DJ ? Are they narrower than the Naish?
laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
QLD, 19804 posts
16 Mar 2012 8:25pm
looks like a good day and a good test. personally i think the idea of a turn is a good thing.

adds a dimension that everyone has to do on a board.

however, i would rather the results stand alone and speak for them selfs rather then paddlers saying what their personal preferences are, that's when things start unravelling and gets a bit blurry .

it should be another topic altogether imo
rps
rps
VIC
605 posts
rps rps
VIC, 605 posts
16 Mar 2012 9:38pm
Thanks Lacey,

the turn was my idea, as I wanted to guage what the user-friendliness of each board was apart from the outright speed.

Personally, I prefer a narrow board, but that's based purely on my weight and what I've been using the past couple of years.
camo hosk
camo hosk
VIC
613 posts
VIC, 613 posts
16 Mar 2012 10:20pm
laceys lane said...

looks like a good day and a good test. personally i think the idea of a turn is a good thing.

adds a dimension that everyone has to do on a board.

however, i would rather the results stand alone and speak for them selfs rather then paddlers saying what their personal preferences are, that's when things start unravelling and gets a bit blurry .

it should be another topic altogether imo


Just opinions and sharing experiences,
thought that type of thing belonged here
Goochi
Goochi
WA
846 posts
WA, 846 posts
16 Mar 2012 9:41pm
Was there a reason as to why the starboard open ocean was used instead of the coast runner? It would have been interesting to see how it performed given its flatter rocker and suitability for both surf and flat water.

Great test and very professional results. Well done to all involved.
robon
robon
114 posts
114 posts
17 Mar 2012 1:09am
Goochi said...

Was there a reason as to why the starboard open ocean was used instead of the coast runner? It would have been interesting to see how it performed given its flatter rocker and suitability for both surf and flat water.

Great test and very professional results. Well done to all involved.


I was wondering the same thing about the Coast Runner as the Open Ocean has a lot of rocker.

Still a good test and interesting results.
PTWoody
PTWoody
VIC
3982 posts
VIC, 3982 posts
17 Mar 2012 10:19am
We didn't have a Coast Runner. I thought we'd have one but turns out we couldn't get it.
laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
QLD, 19804 posts
17 Mar 2012 5:58pm
hey guys, the nsp is a surprise packet. how about a review from someone. how fast is it, stability and how much.

also,is this a different board along with the new construction or is it the same nsp that has been out for a bit now

cheers
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