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Phill

You could do all sorts of things with a polariser, like use unleaded petrol in leaded petrol cars without any ill effects, run your tyres at 22psi, etc.

This is actually from a press release from DB tech who made the polariser (for real, I'm not taking the piss):

"An Energy Polarizer transmits a high energy mainly generated by the vehicle to which it is attached.

This high energy field - A.B.A. Energy - causes all molecules in it's sphere of influence to be aligned or polarized to the direction of the high energy transmission, and are held in a linked or aligned state.

These molecules are subject to a vibratory rate dictated by the Polarizer.

The printed circuitry in a Polarizer causes a multiplicity of frequencies to be transmitted, affecting each molecule and allowing that molecules and it's environment to absorb specific vibration levels including noises, vibrations resonance and impact harshness which are always present in any vehicle and also to dampen out the effects of imperfect manufacture of vehicle components.

The overall effect on a motor car is to absorb road shocks more completely and quietly, to reduce overall vehicle noises - both inside and outside - to achieve greater efficiency of the power train and steering systems, improving the engine and suspension performance and to create a more pleasant environment for the driver and passenger.

Certain frequencies have not been "tuned out" as they are necessary for increased road safety.

The energy transmitted from the "Energy Polarizer" always flows to that area most effected. That means a major problem area still remains a problem, and the energy is effectively wasted on that area since the overall vehicle is deprived and consequently is less enhanced. So a correctly manufactured and maintained vehicle will always be superior to one that is not, but all vehicles benefit from the fitment of an Energy Polarizer.

It should be noted a vehicle which normal requires high octane leaded fuel is then able to operate on low octane (92) unleaded fuel, without any ill effects whatsoever, when an Energy Polarizer is fitted.

Tyre pressures must be lowered to maximise the effect of an Energy Polarizer. Recommended tyre pressure:-

Standard and 60 series tyres - 24 P.S.I (165 k.P.a).
45 / 50 / 55 series tyres - 22 P.S.I. (150 k.P.a).
Light trucks and commercial vehicles - 30 P.S.I. (210 k.P.a.)"

The Power Balance people could easily have put together a test that looked remotely legit but they didn't.

It would not be hard to get 10 envelopes and pop some holograms in some to do a blind trial or to use weights and measure the effect.

The tests and all the marketing looks like something from a home shopping channel scam. If they are so sure that it works then they should do that and put everybody's mind at rest. The fact that they have not done any reasonable test suggest that it is a scam. What have they got to hide?

It's interesting that we only hear about it in the surfing world. I look at other forums and it is never mentioned.

mikeman said...

Bnaccas said...

There is aparently a test to see if these things work (not your simple do it at home test).

Here is a better test:

Make an indentical set of these things so that the user will not know if they are the originals or not. Then do the same strength/balance tests, swapping original and fake around a few times. This should work out whether there is something to them or not.

I don't believe anything that comes from any of those current affairs shows as they are the lowestt form of jounalism around. But, would be open minded enough to give this test a go...

This has been done. A shop that sells them in Melbourne has a fake for just that reason. The fake doesn't work.
Once again I don't understand how they work but I haven't seen them not work...yet.

They will be on Today Tonight just after this break.

Good test on the telly tonight (Today Toinght) and it prooved to me that it is a scam..IMO.

DJ

Yeah that test was interesting. To me it said nothing. They needed to eliminate all variables. They needed to use the
same person and test several times changing the cards over and then ask him which time the card was in. But having to
pick from those people who clearly would all be stronger or weaker than each other would be next to impossible.

I once had a guy with these magnets in innersoles that claimed the same thing and he did exactly the same tests to prove to me that they work.

I was not convinced.

DJ

From a consumer point of view there's only two things you want to test:
- whether the subject can tell the difference
- whether there is an actual difference and how much

It's a load of bollocks of course. When it first appeared the explanation was that the hologram was a medium to store information and the information was what was havinig the effect. It was claimed you could store the information on clay tablets and it would work.

oliver said...

DavidJohn said...

I once had a guy with these magnets in innersoles that claimed the same thing and he did exactly the same tests to prove to me that they work.

I was not convinced.

DJ

Why do you sign each post with your fake initials? We know who you are.

DavidJohn


VIC
Australia

4064 Posts

Good point.. I might start signing it just David.

David

JonathanC said...

I like the posts signed "DJ" leave him alone.

The Power is strong in you young OB, you must fight to keep your Balance

Who is OB ? We don't know who you are.........

Daletor

I'm still a skeptic regardless. If I don't understand something I will always question it.
I'm a "consumer" and to me I can feel a difference, even in the gym but I still don't
understand it. I wore it this morning surfing and was absolutely RIPPING!!

I just don't like it when people right something off without seeing, trying testing etc.
Until it's proven either way there will always be believers and skeptics. I might be sitting
on the fence but with the PB on I don't think I will fall off that easy.

Almost any test can be manipulated to get a desired result unless there are controls
to eliminate all variables. The PB tests are flawed but it is weird seeing the same result
over and over again.

innapropriate and politicaly incorrect but still funny
W

which test Lobes, I'm just curious?

Swanie said...

I am with Brendan with this one. I have been reading the thread since seeing it on TV and have thought the only way was to buy one..which I did. Call it an experiment. I am the biggest sceptic out and the thing seems to work.

Same here. Don't understand it either - done the same test on around 12 people and only 1 person said they didn't notice anything different. Everyone else freaked out - like I did. My 14 yo son reckons between 5 -10% more strenght/flexibility. I've been wearing it ever since and haven't noticed any noticible difference other than when I did the test. But then again it is the Christmas season and I have spent a fair bit of time being intoxicated.

Maybe it is psychological but this has been around for some time so surely one of the tens of thousands of non believers out there - who won't ever try it - can demonstrate some proof how this trick works or has been done before and can, explain why it has somehow managed to hoodwink so many people.

The one thing I have seen though in all the other blogs/forums I've read on this topic in the past few days is that all the non believers, except for Lobes, haven't done the "test" for themselves.

Yeah the tests are definately not scientific. There is a sit-up one I really thinks works best especially with guys.
This is the one that sucked me in.

I dont think Brendan would be the type of person to say its working for him if its not, he has no personal gain for saying it works.

Im willing to give a one go and see what happens