DJ says I cannot watch the video

Sorry about that.. I think it just takes a little time to get cleared so it's not porno or something.. Little do they know that it's really SUP porn..

DJ

DavidJohn said...

Sorry about that.. I think it just takes a little time to get cleared so it's not porno or something.. Little do they know that it's really SUP porn..

DJ

It's a vimeo setting you need to change. Click settings DJ

Here's some pictures.

DJ

First time I've seen a handle attached to the side of the board!..... does it get in the way while your paddling

Boylos

How far out of the water is the deck drain hole when your standing on the board? Surprised to see that - looks like a design oversight.

I also don't understand the love every one has with swept fins on racing boards - Naish got it right with the elliptical fin/foil on the Javelin in my opinion (I would have gone a bit deeper though)

Handle is for launching in races I guess, it came with 2 but I only put one on - strangely doesn't get in the way at all when paddling. The thing is actually light and narrow enough to be very easy to carry by just hooking your fingers around the edge of the sunken deck, then if its windy I just grab the handle with the other hand holding my paddle to stabilise it - having the handle makes that easy to do and makes you feel that little bit more secure in 25+ knots.

The drain holes are out of the water when you stand, normally your feet are completely dry but if a wave does swamp over the water just pisses out like having a hose on each side - they work very well.

Swept back fin is not standard although I think the Bamboo race fin that comes with the boards (mine is on its way) is actually quite swept back. I like the swept back fin, makes the board more manoeuvrable, for me this board is all about downwind not flat water racing.

PTWoody are you crazy, do you think DJ would put a starfish on his new Javelin

Funny all this fin stuff, I'd bet most people paddling on flat water wouldn't be able to tell what sort of fin was under this board or the Javelin if they just got on without seeing it first.

cRAZY Canuk said...



I also don't understand the love every one has with swept fins on racing boards - Naish got it right with the elliptical fin/foil on the Javelin in my opinion (I would have gone a bit deeper though)

Just wondering why you think that?

DJ

DavidJohn said...

cRAZY Canuk said...



I also don't understand the love every one has with swept fins on racing boards - Naish got it right with the elliptical fin/foil on the Javelin in my opinion (I would have gone a bit deeper though)

Just wondering why you think that?

DJ

I also question the Canuk.

I've always found that at lower board speeds like on SUP's (compared to windsurfers) a longer chord will provide better directional stability. The result is an increase in lateral resistance which reduces paddle steering (less changing sides). This is almost always an advantage in SUP as long as the foil stays nice and efficient without too much drag.

Sam.

I'm very interested to know what is a better all round board for paddling in Port Phillip Bay, The Surf Race or the Glide 14' DW?

Surf Race would seem better for flat water with the Glide excelling in the bigger DW conditions? Or could the Surf Race hold its own in bigger Downwinders?

In typically flat and small chop you get around ST Kilda the Surf Race would seem to be better yes?

So hows the surf race go in downwinders?

Took my Surf Race out last week in really bad conditions, gusting up to 25 knots, raining, choppy. We have a local breakwater and its possible to get behind the wall for some shelter then come out into the exposed wind waves at the end of the wall, pretty much going off yesterday with 5 or 6' foot faces but super choppy with reflection off the rock wall.

Well once again the Surf Race amazed me, the thing is just so incredibly stable in such a wild sea state, I actually think it is not only the sunken deck it's the whole shape of the board that just makes it so forgiving in chop.

So work my way out into the maelstrom turn it down a face and suddenly it's all sunshine and light as the board gets straight onto the wave, it really does surf surprisingly well. A normal surf board in those conditions would have been really difficult with the regular nose getting slapped around by the chop. did my little laps of back upwind along the wall and into the waves for about an hour and a half and didn't fall off once, not only incredibly stable for a 26 1/2" wide board, just incredibly stable - period.

The Surf Race is my new best friend and I'm sure it will just rip in proper downwind conditions.

Thats all I needed to hear Johnathan. I wondered how the 26 1/2" was gonna go?
Cant wait to hear how it goes in a good downwinder. Proove DJ wrong

laceys lane said...

we got a look at a normal glass one at the supsa flatwater race day. the board looks the goods, but were all mostly a little disappointed with how it paddled in the flats up against the javelin,dc's, secret agent and lahuikai - a lot of water spraying off the nose and that seemed to be the problem. it just didn't appear to have out and out speed. stability is pretty good. however, i personally get the feeling in the ocean/ surf it's true character would come out.
sb look to have a range of boards suiting different formats- make sure you are getting the board for you, don't get on ' the surf' band wagon without looking at their other boards
cheers

Yes by the looks of it, the Surf Race really needs some chop to come into its own and to even be an improvement on the superseded Pin. I would like to see how the New works in flat water. That's supposed to be the real rocket ship.

PTWoody said...
I would like to see how the New works in flat water. That's supposed to be the real rocket ship.

Do you mean this board