Fin Setup for high performance SUP

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Kauaifiveo
Kauaifiveo
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20 Oct 2009 2:11pm
Aloha everyone,
Wondering what fin set up is favored for high performance SUP boards. I am riding future Pancho Sullivan sides with a 4.75 k2d2 center fin. This is a great setup for that thruster feel, but I do sacrifice a bit with the paddling(Yaw) Any other suggestions or ideas? Looking for that happy medium of great paddling with high performance.
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
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20 Oct 2009 5:19pm
I've always liked big heavy boards with seven fins myself..

DJ

LSD
LSD
VIC
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LSD LSD
VIC, 763 posts
20 Oct 2009 5:20pm
Yoda uses a single R2D2 fin
Kauaifiveo
Kauaifiveo
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90 posts
20 Oct 2009 2:27pm
Thats what I enjoy about these aussie forums, never a straight forward answer! You guys love to poke fun. But seriously, any suggestions?
OG SUP
OG SUP
VIC
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20 Oct 2009 5:44pm
I use either FCS FG 5 inside foil fins all round in my Short Board Sup and PC 7s all round in the PSH 12ft gun.

You will need a center fin adaptor for both of these sut ups.

The inside foils appear to reduce yaw when paddling and sort of act like power steering when you initiate a turn.

Both these set ups work well for me in up to OH++

My 2 cents

Oh and before someone says it " Yes I am aware that thruster fins dont work in paddle boards" but they do in mine!

Phill
laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
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20 Oct 2009 6:04pm
check out shapers s9's topic
cheers

ChrisMcC
ChrisMcC
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20 Oct 2009 7:14pm
Kauaifiveo said...

Aloha everyone,
Wondering what fin set up is favored for high performance SUP boards. I am riding future Pancho Sullivan sides with a 4.75 k2d2 center fin. This is a great setup for that thruster feel, but I do sacrifice a bit with the paddling(Yaw) Any other suggestions or ideas? Looking for that happy medium of great paddling with high performance.


Out of interest, what size board is it that you are riding?
Kauaifiveo
Kauaifiveo
90 posts
90 posts
21 Oct 2009 2:05am
Just Wrong said...

Kauaifiveo said...

Aloha everyone,
Wondering what fin set up is favored for high performance SUP boards. I am riding future Pancho Sullivan sides with a 4.75 k2d2 center fin. This is a great setup for that thruster feel, but I do sacrifice a bit with the paddling(Yaw) Any other suggestions or ideas? Looking for that happy medium of great paddling with high performance.


Out of interest, what size board is it that you are riding?


I ride a 9 6 wide ripper. (Paddle Surf Hawaii)
OG SUP
OG SUP
VIC
3516 posts
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21 Oct 2009 8:13am
Rich uses Sunny Garcia's all round on his I think, I would use FCS PC 7s all round.
Both are thruster set ups with fin box adaptors.

In OH+ we change to a 6 - 6 1/2 inch centre fin.

Regards

Phill


Out of interest, what size board is it that you are riding?


I ride a 9 6 wide ripper. (Paddle Surf Hawaii)


DavidJohn
DavidJohn
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21 Oct 2009 9:11am
Here's an interesing new vid from Evan where he's talking to Todd about the new C4 boards.. and their fin set ups.

He (Todd) says quads need to be surfed more up from the tail.

DJ

robg1703
robg1703
NSW
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21 Oct 2009 11:32am
Hi,
I use K21's in the sides as they are a good sized fin, with a Futures 5" glass fin in the back on my performance short SUP. Just move it to the back of the box to lesson the yawing but there will always be a trade-off for maneuvrability.
I then use a similar setup on my 12'0 gun but instead of a 5" i use a Futures glass 6" in the tail.
I use this this setup in my Tolhurst Longboard as well because as i shortboarder it gives you the performance you want out of longer boards.
Works for me anyway!
Happy Surfing
Kauaifiveo
Kauaifiveo
90 posts
90 posts
21 Oct 2009 8:41am
Good video Davidjohn. Thats precisely why I dont ride quads, they dont fit my surf style. I like to ride off the tail and push hard with my back foot, so I prefer the thruster or 2 +1 setup.
Kauaifiveo
Kauaifiveo
90 posts
90 posts
21 Oct 2009 10:22am
robg1703 said...

Hi,
I use K21's in the sides as they are a good sized fin, with a Futures 5" glass fin in the back on my performance short SUP. Just move it to the back of the box to lesson the yawing but there will always be a trade-off for maneuvrability.
I then use a similar setup on my 12'0 gun but instead of a 5" i use a Futures glass 6" in the tail.
I use this this setup in my Tolhurst Longboard as well because as i shortboarder it gives you the performance you want out of longer boards.
Works for me anyway!
Happy Surfing
What kind of fins are the k21's? Sounds like your setup is similiar to what I ride. I really like this setup, but there is a trade off in the yaw department. Was thinking about trying the vector foil side bites that futures make with a 6 inch center. I guess its all about trying different setups and see what works for you.


CMC
CMC
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21 Oct 2009 3:45pm
H2 Large sides, 6 1/2 inch single in the back. I tried every fin in the FCS range (literally) and it feels great to me. First surf was like a light going off in my head!

The cant on the H2's just seems to suit the extended bottom turns off the paddle, the inside foil keeps it loose with good recovery off foam rebounds etc.
Kauaifiveo
Kauaifiveo
90 posts
90 posts
21 Oct 2009 2:36pm
I was pretty dialed in with the fcs, then paddle surf went to future side fins! Oh the confusion! So far, I really like the pancho side fins which are similar to the sunny side fins. Now I am thinking about going back to 2+1 to reduce the yaw. I think I need fin therapy!!!
robg1703
robg1703
NSW
247 posts
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22 Oct 2009 8:35pm
I have heard the H2 Large work well in SUP's (i tried them in my regular shortboards and didn't like them)
K2.1's are the original FCS Slater fins that are blue with the white dot on them.
I am using Vector's in my SUP and love them!
It's just a case of experimenting but i do know quality fins make a BIG difference!
lookielookie
lookielookie
QLD
347 posts
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22 Oct 2009 8:11pm
It looks like FCS wil be releasing a fin that is either SUP specific or will be recommended for sup. looks like a cross between the h2 and the 3D tip. looks the good with carbon and yellow. Dont know when there out though.
If you want some fruity stuff, futures are doing some great fins as well.
you have to look carefully CHECK OUT THE INSIDE FOILS OF THE OUTSIDE FINS..... sorrybad shot....


tha dogman
tha dogman
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2912 posts
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22 Oct 2009 10:30pm
oh my god those are some funky lookin fins

talkin about funky hows the new avatar lookie wiggerdy wank dude
Scotty Mac
Scotty Mac
SA
2060 posts
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22 Oct 2009 10:03pm
yer hilton, whats with that picture? you some bondage gig or something?
like the sides, look better as a quad................ha
lookielookie
lookielookie
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22 Oct 2009 9:52pm
just a normal night at the deth camp.....
you guys can cop the angry panda !!!
laceys lane
laceys lane
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19804 posts
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22 Oct 2009 9:52pm
lookielookie said...

It looks like FCS wil be releasing a fin that is either SUP specific or will be recommended for sup. looks like a cross between the h2 and the 3D tip. looks the good with carbon and yellow. Dont know when there out though.
If you want some fruity stuff, futures are doing some great fins as well.
you have to look carefully CHECK OUT THE INSIDE FOILS OF THE OUTSIDE FINS..... sorrybad shot....





i like the back fin, doubles up as a handle to get the board out of the cover
Scotty Mac
Scotty Mac
SA
2060 posts
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22 Oct 2009 10:31pm
tha angry panda!, reminds me of the mandog after a couple.....

hey whats the lastest stick at deth head quarters?
any pics?
lookielookie
lookielookie
QLD
347 posts
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22 Oct 2009 10:48pm
Scotty Mac said...

tha angry panda!, reminds me of the mandog after a couple.....

hey whats the lastest stick at deth head quarters?
any pics?


Couple in the works. should have some real photos next week.
10' x 28 x 4 1/4. good wave

8'10 x 32 x 4 3/8. 5 fin bonzer

9'1 x 29 1/4 x 4 1/4 comp


boards not to scale

dont make the panda angry...... you wont like it when shes angry............


rodriguez
rodriguez
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23 Oct 2009 3:43pm
Any chance of getting the angry panda in full shot looks to be some nice art work down south
lookielookie said...

Scotty Mac said...

tha angry panda!, reminds me of the mandog after a couple.....

hey whats the lastest stick at deth head quarters?
any pics?


Couple in the works. should have some real photos next week.
10' x 28 x 4 1/4. good wave

8'10 x 32 x 4 3/8. 5 fin bonzer

9'1 x 29 1/4 x 4 1/4 comp


boards not to scale

dont make the panda angry...... you wont like it when shes angry............





CMC
CMC
QLD
3954 posts
CMC CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
23 Oct 2009 5:39pm
lookielookie said...

just a normal night at the deth camp.....
you guys can cop the angry panda !!!


I see some things never change old mate, I heard your mojo was restored. Mr F was a happy man again. In cryptic terms once you had a tick rather than a cross you returned to P Earth.

As a test pilot I am only a phone call away. Lets ride!


Chris
lookielookie
lookielookie
QLD
347 posts
QLD, 347 posts
23 Oct 2009 7:45pm
CMC said...

lookielookie said...

just a normal night at the deth camp.....
you guys can cop the angry panda !!!


I see some things never change old mate, I heard your mojo was restored. Mr F was a happy man again. In cryptic terms once you had a tick rather than a cross you returned to P Earth.

As a test pilot I am only a phone call away. Lets ride!


Chris

Ive been waiting for a gee up from you...
i know youre up and out the door at 3 . Havent had a chance to go for the early, as the missus gets out the door around 4.30 and beats me to it, so i dont get out until 8.00 onwards. should be hanging around the creek this weekend though. green 9'1 is ready to have a play on in the nthlys if youre down that way.....
life is good since the escape

Kauaifiveo
Kauaifiveo
90 posts
90 posts
24 Oct 2009 7:58am
Is that a hatchet fin in the center? Who makes that fin? My vector fins came with a hatchet trailer, but cant use it in center box.
termite
termite
NSW
283 posts
NSW, 283 posts
24 Oct 2009 1:52pm
Hey Kauai

Seroiusly, I think you mistook LSD's post for a joke. I think he is on the money with the single R2D2. I reckon you'll make more leia back re entrys with the han solo skeg
lookielookie
lookielookie
QLD
347 posts
QLD, 347 posts
24 Oct 2009 2:25pm
Kauaifiveo said...

Is that a hatchet fin in the center? Who makes that fin? My vector fins came with a hatchet trailer, but cant use it in center box.


Kauaifiveo, Yes its the same hatchet that came with the vectors i wouldnt recomend it. it amplified the yaw 2 fold when paddling.
if youre a big fella and want more of a carving style fin for your 9'6 wripper, try and get your hands on a set of the gerrys. could be a nice blend.
*****scotty mac- they also come as quads

I had a 9'6 wide ripper at one stage and my favorite set was a proto type from FCS. mick fanning template. hand foiled f/glass. a lot of flex. still had a bit of yaw as well though.
stay away from the single fin if you want short board sryle drive. a single fin in the ripper seems to flat pivot more than anything!!!
if you can hang for a month or two. I went and saw the guys at futures yesterday and you should see all the NEW stand up fins theve got coming out. high performance short board stuff to primo down wind fins. dedicating a lot of time to there SUP division. trying some of the new stuff might keep you out of trouble
They even have board handles. ive just ordered a crap load as theyre the best ive seen. not to big /not to small.




Kauaifiveo
Kauaifiveo
90 posts
90 posts
24 Oct 2009 2:12pm
Thats awesome lookie,
I was wondering when the fin guys were going to make more SUP specific fins. Dont really like what is out there that they call SUP fins. I hate spending big bucks on shortboard thruster fins and really only getting two fins out of the deal! The Gerrys look good, but real pricey!
Scotty Mac
Scotty Mac
SA
2060 posts
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24 Oct 2009 6:10pm
Nice fins Lookie,
bought a set of Stretch FCS in new core material (yellow). should be good.
i have been using simon anderson large front and medium rears as a quad work well on sup. the stretch fins look bit more drivey.
will be good on my surfboard if not on sup.
got a ripper set of g10 futures on my burton tow board.
best fins ever used. pricey, think they were about $300.
burton tow boards go pretty sweet, you guessed it hilton, its a quad also
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