Pine, balsa, bamboo, cork, coconut husk, What's next.. Recycled tooth pics?, and who's going to be the first to do a used match stick deck?..

DJ

ive got a cabrihna 9.8 pro made of cork sitting downstairs waiting to be tested if we ever see swell again. Will post photos and review when the swell returns.

foxsup said...

Has anyone had any experience with cork sandwich construction. Is Cabrinha the only company doing this, or have others done it before or also using it. I am interested in feedback on how the boards feel compared to say ast or wood sandwich (in the surf) and how they hold up in comparison.

So you don't know it all

laceys lane said...

DavidJohn said...

Pine, balsa, bamboo, cork, coconut husk, What's next.. Recycled tooth pics?, and who's going to be the first to do a used match stick deck?..

DJ

there's talk of recycling pubic hair as an alternative to fibreglass cloths, but getting enough raw materials is a issue

Pubes????? .... I got bootloads how many kilos do they need?????

sameh - I would have thought that the 9.8 would have been marginal at that weight as my mate is just over 90 and it was relatively comfortable for him but not a walk in the park. Have you tried the 10.2, it would be absolutely perfect for you I reckon - still compact enough in design to throw around but a very nice paddling and super stable board.
What you are saying about the differences intrigues me but we wont see new models here for another week or so, so will have to wait to check it out myself. Does the rocker look the same ? I am hanging to see the 9.2 in the flesh personally, it's very low in volume (on paper) for a board that size ?

sameh said...

the 9.2 is a weapon! low volume aggressive looking. The agent here has a store full of the smaller pros. hes 115 kg and the guys he sells sups to are all big boys. Everyone stares at the pros but were all too big, fat, old etc to surf them. Didnt go down the 10.2 path because i already have 2 10 foot manas and psh hull paddler. Was looking to go smaller and more performance. on good days when the swell is clean and shoulder height plus the 9.8 cabrihna hybrid has been fantastic. As long as i dont move too far forward it surfs as well if not better than any sup ive owned. On crappy mushy days i surf a 9.6 allwave which is way more forgiving due to the wider volume nose and the 9.2 allwave which is loose and still super stable. During summer its almost permenantly flat in perth, so the 10.8 is the ripple riding go to board for places like avalon point or surf beach. Reading your posts i think your around 70 kg, then the 9.2 or even 8.8 pros would be awesome boards.

Yeah mate, Im 70kg but only an intermediate sup'er and I am a bit iffy about 115 litres. I am very comfy on the small starboards of around 120-130 ltrs but like you say the 9.2 pro is a pretty aggressive looking board with minimal places to hide on it. Can't wait to see it in the flesh.

foxsup said...

So - what you are saying is ........... you got nothin !


Oh BTW DJ - If I remember rightly Mctavish did a board with hemp a few years ago - cop that

Now stop being a knob and do what you do best - source useful and insightful information for me

Bugger.. I missed Hemp.. .. I wonder if they could use belly button lint?

and yeah.. I've got nothin.. .. Just getting the ball rolling for ya..

DJ

there was this great looking clubbie ski on www.surfski.info a couple of years ago

i don't know how to add a link here but if you go there and drop down the review tab then onto skis and stuff it's down the bottom under "review green 7"

when your in there, down the bottom there's a link to "more info on the cork" and that is a fantastic doc on cork composites well worth the search

even better if someone could do a direct link from here

pete

sameh said...

the 9.2 is a weapon! low volume aggressive looking. The agent here has a store full of the smaller pros. hes 115 kg and the guys he sells sups to are all big boys. Everyone stares at the pros but were all too big, fat, old etc to surf them. Didnt go down the 10.2 path because i already have 2 10 foot manas and psh hull paddler. Was looking to go smaller and more performance. on good days when the swell is clean and shoulder height plus the 9.8 cabrihna hybrid has been fantastic. As long as i dont move too far forward it surfs as well if not better than any sup ive owned. On crappy mushy days i surf a 9.6 allwave which is way more forgiving due to the wider volume nose and the 9.2 allwave which is loose and still super stable. During summer its almost permenantly flat in perth, so the 10.8 is the ripple riding go to board for places like avalon point or surf beach. Reading your posts i think your around 70 kg, then the 9.2 or even 8.8 pros would be awesome boards.

Did you actually try a 10.2 ? Would love to hear your thoughts on it compared to the 9.8. I just LOVE the 9.8 but a little more paddle speed would be nice for me in a 10ft board without sacrificing surfability, and I hear the 10.2 achieves that. I have a fantastic surf sup and am looking to add a longer board for carting the dog around and still being a handy surfer - I know what you are gunna say "if you love the 9.8 so much" hahaha - yeah hard board not to buy I know. I also want the 9.2 pro, but that aint gunna happen although Im sure the dog would learn to live with the lack of space

foxsup said...



Hey cmc - if I can get some info' from cabrinha about what type of cork they use can you decipher what's in the article and translate it into simple speak that us laypersons can understand in relation to the stand up paddle board ? (pretty please)

Cork is nice and lightweight and softer and more flexible than PVC. PVC is always popular as it is very strong for its weight, it is however very expensive. Matt Biolis was also using cork in his shortboards as he liked the flex and the Cabrinha site also mentions flex as a property of its Cork boards.

The advantage would be that it is light and adds strength over just laminated EPS particularly in lighter grades light 15gm or the like that they use in these kinds of boards. It would not be as strong as PVC but have more flex. I would imagine it also having a greater amount of flex to other veneers also. This could be a good thing.

The negative would be that it would not be as bullet proof as PVC, more aimed perhaps at more high performance surfers focused upon performance and weight over durability.

I know a lot of people don't believe SUP boards flex or that it has anything to do with performance but I think this is incorrect. I was talking to a guy the other day in the carpark looking at my SUP. He asked me if I thought SUP's are too thick to flex, I flipped it over and put a foot lightly on the bottom, the board flexed easily, with full body weight and speed from a wave it would be bending more than you can imagine, it's how the board rebounds out of a turn along with the fins recoiling after they also flex that is the slingshot effect (most people call it twang) you feel on a good board. Stiff boards just exit the turn, no slingshot...... I think Carbrinha is tying to find a medium to offer this high performance flex character with durability.

foxsup said...

Thanks heaps chris. I take it you are also perhaps curious then, as I am whether these boards are in fact gunna deliver performance that is noticable and beneficial to the average sup surfer.

When I used to work for FCS I heard repeatedly that people didn't think they could surf well enough to feel the difference between fins. When you took the time to change them or they test drove a set even average ability surfers can feel it. While it's important to ride equipment that matches or pushes your ability i reckon people will feel the difference in different construction types from intermediate onwards.

Unfortunately a lot of what is marketed by companies and retailers as the top end or 'production' is not what is the best but the most profitable.

hilly said...

looks good at 131l it will float you fine. I have the JL Kwad at 130l and it is easy

Hey Hilly - what's 131 litres ? The cabrina ? - I thought they were 115 ?

thought we were talking about the cab 9 8, I am 105kg and ride the JL at 130l

Cabrinha 9 8

Construction:2lb (density) EPS core with stringer. Bamboo veneer deck reinforcement. Clear Epoxy resin, vacuum laminated. Painted finish. Custom cut 5 mm EVA footpads. Countersunk carry handle.

Size: 9'8 long* Almost 30′ Wide by 4.2″ Thick.

Fins: Standard 10” tail fin box. 7″ glass fin. Future Fin System 3.25″ side fins. Two additional Future Fin System boxes for optional quad configuration.

Volume: 132l

Weight: +- 12kg

Hilly - Ive not seen those figures before. The only dimensions I have seen on the 9.8 say 9.8 x32 and about 155ltrs ?

Hilly youre looking at last years cabrinha. The current model is 2 inches thicker, and just generally better put together. Got a gopro for christmas and have stuck it on the cab 9.8 pro. They come preconfigured with a plug foe the gopro. Should we ever see surf again ill post the vids.

Ok got you! at 152l it will be too corky to surf well on decent waves go for the 2010 model