Any1 tanker suped port phillip bay?

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THE DONG
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22 Sep 2012 3:08pm
Might be a stupid question but i watch the tankers coming in Port Phillip and am curious if there are any spots u can ride tanker waves. Near Rye where they do there circuit closer to the coast maybe?
supmego
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22 Sep 2012 3:16pm
Dont think they (Port Authority) would be happy you being that close to a tanker.
HumanCartoon
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22 Sep 2012 3:46pm
one of my buddies has surfed ship wake just off McCrae, but inshore & not out in the channel a-la "tanker sup'ing" like they do in Puget Sound and in the Gulf
PTWoody
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22 Sep 2012 3:51pm
There was apparently one instance of someone trying something like this quite some time ago and it was considered by the authorities to be a very unsafe thing to do - went a long way towards bringing unwanted attention upon our sport. So if anyone else wants to give this a try, let me know so I can arrange a delegation to come around and beat some sense into you.
fairhaven
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22 Sep 2012 3:58pm
Perfect spot, near Point Henry Geelong.
Should not cause too many problems with authorities.
A narrow channel and shallow water either side.
You would not need to SUP in the channel so no issues.
Check it out on GoogleEarth.
Wow!! PTWOODY very angry reply ????
AUS175
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22 Sep 2012 4:36pm
i was diving a few weeks ago off rye and watched a decent surfable wave come through the inside of the channel off one of the Hamburg ships, were the water gets to about 3-4mts..been talking to a mate about filming a tow in surf of it, would look pretty cool... i reckon it went for about 2kms.. started south of Rosebud and fizzled near Rye long after the ship was past...
PTWoody
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22 Sep 2012 10:19pm
fairhaven said...

Perfect spot, near Point Henry Geelong.
Should not cause too many problems with authorities.
A narrow channel and shallow water either side.
You would not need to SUP in the channel so no issues.
Check it out on GoogleEarth.
Wow!! PTWOODY very angry reply ????



Yes because I'm the sap who has to answer to authorities on behalf of the sport in this state. I can guarantee Transport Safety Victoria takes a very dim view of this sort of thing. I've had meetings with these people and they actually cited this type of activity as something they will crack down heavily upon. They monitor this forum and there absolutely will be repercussions if anyone tries it in Port Phillip. Do you really want to be the person responsible for bringing extreme safety requirements upon all of us?
adolf
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22 Sep 2012 8:35pm
PTWoody said...

fairhaven said...

Perfect spot, near Point Henry Geelong.
Should not cause too many problems with authorities.
A narrow channel and shallow water either side.
You would not need to SUP in the channel so no issues.
Check it out on GoogleEarth.
Wow!! PTWOODY very angry reply ????



Yes because I'm the sap who has to answer to authorities on behalf of the sport in this state. I can guarantee Transport Safety Victoria takes a very dim view of this sort of thing. I've had meetings with these people and they actually cited this type of activity as something they will crack down heavily upon. They monitor this forum and there absolutely will be repercussions if anyone tries it in Port Phillip. Do you really want to be the person responsible for bringing extreme safety requirements upon all of us?


Boring.

So why are authorities perfectly ok and on board with giving you and your clique the green flag for doing your downwind sup thing - St Kilda to Sandringham in 50kn NW? and it's not ok with surfing bumps caused from ships coming in and out of the bay daily?

I don't see the difference, mr SUP authority? Please do elaborate on the difference in danger between the two scenarios I've mentioned.

I'll make it easier for you and the authorities (who monitor this site) to answer my question:

Why is surfing bumps caused by ships far more dangerous to themselves or others than a bunch of guys taking off from St Kilda in 50kn winds and free wheeling to Sandringham or further on their oversized boards?
camo hosk
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22 Sep 2012 11:07pm
PT has done a heap of good work in setting up communication between stand up paddlers and Port Phillip bay authorities and give us a voice to be herd so can see he's keen to have it stay this way although his final comment isn't a serious one IMO,
I think the OP is talking about riding waves when they come close to shore though and miles from the actual ship that created them? rather than hanging off the back of the stern like a greenpeace demonstrater, although if your keen to give it a go Adolf let me know and I'll have my camera ready like at the shorey down the east coast open beaches
adolf
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22 Sep 2012 9:13pm
camo hosk said...

PT has done a heap of good work in setting up communication between stand up paddlers and Port Phillip bay authorities and give us a voice to be herd so can see he's keen to have it stay this way although his final comment isn't a seroious one IMO,
I think the OP is talking about riding waves when they come close to shore though and miles from the actual ship that created them? rather than hanging off the back of the bow like a greenpeace demonstrater, although if your keen to give it a go Adolf let me know and I'll have my camera ready like at the shorey down the east coast open beaches


PT sounds like he's got a carrot shoved up is rectom and is a bit too full of his own self importance. He's telling some guys they can't surf little bumps caused by ships that come in and out of the bay on a daily basis. While he and his clique advertise freely and promote video footage that they take of themselves doing downwinders in 50kn's. I just don't get it.

But yeah - I'm up for surfing bumps caused by container ships - maybe PT can chase me in his new starboard police canoe SUP and can yell obscenitys and stuff at me while I'm enjoying the only life I have.
chrispychru
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22 Sep 2012 11:19pm
pt...you are a bigger ****wit than me at times

well said adolf
PTWoody
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22 Sep 2012 11:48pm
Yeah look I've gone hard on this and my apologies if I've misunderstood the intent of the OP. Obviously you can surf the little bumps provided by passing ships out in the channel. But you just shouldn't go out into the channel to catch them, that's what TSV is saying.
laceys lane
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23 Sep 2012 8:17am
PTWoody said...

Yeah look I've gone hard on this and my apologies if I've misunderstood the intent of the OP. Obviously you can surf the little bumps provided by passing ships out in the channel. But you just shouldn't go out into the channel to catch them, that's what TSV is saying.


if you tried to wake riding one of these babies you could get sucked under and end up being fish bait. this what pt and the port are talking about and you would get clowns trying it for sure. even in the creek wake riding a speed boat doing 6 ks can draw your board towards the side of the boat

to ride hard on pt by red thumbing shows juvenile mentality

ride the ship surf, but i reckon you would want to a k away from a tanker
chrispychru
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23 Sep 2012 2:14pm
laceys lane said...

PTWoody said...

Yeah look I've gone hard on this and my apologies if I've misunderstood the intent of the OP. Obviously you can surf the little bumps provided by passing ships out in the channel. But you just shouldn't go out into the channel to catch them, that's what TSV is saying.


if you tried to wake riding one of these babies you could get sucked under and end up being fish bait. this what pt and the port are talking about and you would get clowns trying it for sure. even in the creek wake riding a speed boat doing 6 ks can draw your board towards the side of the boat

to ride hard on pt by red thumbing shows juvenile mentality

ride the ship surf, but i reckon you would want to a k away from a tanker


well if your going to test your skill and be a retard....well off course **** aint going to go too well, right....

i just like the fact pt knew he was being a little bit precious and has come out an fixed it..he might not always be right...but at least he says what he thinks,whether right or wrong...and just does not press a red thumb....
Rosscoe
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23 Sep 2012 3:32pm
I started reading this thread and thought, "Nup, I'm not commenting on this one!" But, perhaps I'm just a glutton for punishment, so here goes my take on it.

I can see the novelty if, as AUS 175 says, you might be able to catch a 2 km ride inshore from the ships. Perhaps that would be a little like a tidal bore ... maybe, maybe not.

I suppose one of the brilliant things about SUP'ing is that you just about can do it in all types of conditions, just add water. And of course everyone's enjoyment is different - but I can't help thinking that rather than riding a ship's wake in Port Phillip Bay at McCrae or in Corio Bay at Point Henry, (for those that know their geography down here) why not drive another 10-15 mins and go surf a proper wave in the ocean?

You are going to get many more opportunities for rides in the surf.

PTWoody
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23 Sep 2012 4:57pm
Rosscoe said...

I can't help thinking that rather than riding a ship's wake in Port Phillip Bay at McCrae or in Corio Bay at Point Henry, (for those that know their geography down here) why not drive another 10-15 mins and go surf a proper wave in the ocean?

You are going to get many more opportunities for rides in the surf.





I think that's what threw me in the first place - why would you bother with what amounts to a set of waves from a ship once very hour or so? That's why I jumped a few conclusions and assumed this was about wake riding on the back of the ship eco-warrior style rather than catching the dribbles at the shore.

In answer to chrispychru, yeah I'd rather see people speak their mind rather than toss out red thumbs, even when it's to tell me I'm being a git. You never know if a red thumb is genuine disagreement or someone just having a stir.
62mac
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23 Sep 2012 3:06pm
What's so wrong someone wanting to ride a novelty wave,just don't tell anyone next time

PT do you recall an incident a couple of years back,well documented your mate right,so are you going to send the troops over
adolf
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23 Sep 2012 3:12pm
PTWoody said...

Rosscoe said...

I can't help thinking that rather than riding a ship's wake in Port Phillip Bay at McCrae or in Corio Bay at Point Henry, (for those that know their geography down here) why not drive another 10-15 mins and go surf a proper wave in the ocean?

You are going to get many more opportunities for rides in the surf.





I think that's what threw me in the first place - why would you bother with what amounts to a set of waves from a ship once very hour or so? That's why I jumped a few conclusions and assumed this was about wake riding on the back of the ship eco-warrior style rather than catching the dribbles at the shore.

In answer to chrispychru, yeah I'd rather see people speak their mind rather than toss out red thumbs, even when it's to tell me I'm being a git. You never know if a red thumb is genuine disagreement or someone just having a stir.


A tanker wake rider may ask "why would you bother racing sups when kayaks are faster?"

What's missing from this thread is the actual distance small crafts must be from a ship or the shipping lanes - are sups even allowed to be in or cross shipping lanes?

I'd imagine that info would be more helpful?

You guys and your thumbs - you're as bad as those whiners on Big Brother who get voted off the show - I'll give you a tip about what I've learned about those little thumbs.

Red thumbs mean people generally disagree with your comment. Green thumbs mean they probably agree.

If you get red thumbs for a comment for no reason - that probably means people think you are a pillock.
62mac
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23 Sep 2012 3:18pm


oh brother
laceys lane
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23 Sep 2012 5:29pm
when we've gone to north straddie on the barges the wake coming off is massive and looks dangerous. i wouldn't go any where near it.

just saying
chrispychru
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23 Sep 2012 5:41pm
laceys lane said...

when we've gone to north straddie on the barges the wake coming off is massive and looks dangerous. i wouldn't go any where near it.

just saying


i get pretty excited when i see it lacey just wait for the wakes when we get our cruise ship terminal...fully sick bruddah
adolf
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23 Sep 2012 3:44pm


Hope Todd Bradly doesn't get sucked into the propeller and turned into fish bait, he looks ever so close to that big tanker.

It's obvious from the video how dangerous this activity is. Also obvious that it's no fun at all.

Just saying.
ockanui
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23 Sep 2012 6:16pm
that looks pretty good fun, wouldn't mind trying that, I wonder what sort sort of distance you would be able to surf for in the bay, an 11-12 ft surf sup or even a 12'6 bop race board looks like the go,or even a kite surfer could do that, anybody seen the size wake you get in Port Phillip?
With summer coming on, lets get a crew organized, obviously get all the safety stuff down pat, boats pfd's etc to suit, not to mention the obligatory go pro and do it outside the shipping channel, there's lots of ships coming and going, might even be interesting when the wake meets from the different directions making a couple of "airs" possible, I'm in... could be an organized training session eh..
matt18
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23 Sep 2012 6:17pm
this is the best topic in six months, hope it makes 5 pages
DavidJohn
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23 Sep 2012 6:21pm
Maybe we need to look at a bay map that shows the shallow areas and wait there on a glassy day around low tide.. .. I'm thinking 12'6 or 14s will be the go.

These waves travel a hell of a long way because I often catch them as they hit shallow water at St Kilda main beach.. and the shipping channel is about 8 kilometers away.

DJ
Deano72
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23 Sep 2012 6:24pm
Anyone who reckons riding a wave like that for 5.7 miles on a SUP isn't fun should look for another forum to read / comment on!! Looked like the crew that did it all had smiles on their dials. They looked far enough away from the tanker for it to not be hazardous.
THE DONG
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23 Sep 2012 7:03pm
fairhaven said...

Perfect spot, near Point Henry Geelong.
Should not cause too many problems with authorities.
A narrow channel and shallow water either side.
You would not need to SUP in the channel so no issues.
Check it out on GoogleEarth.
Wow!! PTWOODY very angry reply ????


yeah i was llooking at that spot.. just north of the kit/windsurf spot?
THE DONG
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23 Sep 2012 7:04pm
AUS175 said...

i was diving a few weeks ago off rye and watched a decent surfable wave come through the inside of the channel off one of the Hamburg ships, were the water gets to about 3-4mts..been talking to a mate about filming a tow in surf of it, would look pretty cool... i reckon it went for about 2kms.. started south of Rosebud and fizzled near Rye long after the ship was past...


exactly what i had in mind.. ty.. should be no risk cos its away from ships
THE DONG
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23 Sep 2012 7:10pm
hahah... sorry didnt mean to start a heated topic... no i thought about suping along behing tanker but i respect port phillip bay too much to do that... too many things can go wrong too quickly in the channel and the shipping traffic prob too busy...

delayed swells to shallower water is what im after and thanks for the response ppl....


enjoy the water
SandS
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23 Sep 2012 8:03pm
I can't see to many dramas with that , looks great fun in the vid !!!

Might be some places suitable to have a crack .

I think our mentality of hazard control is stifling our fun bucket compared to the USA , we are really becoming a bunch of sooks .

From a observers persective , No different too down winding , probaly safer .
laceys lane
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23 Sep 2012 8:09pm
adolf said...



Hope Todd Bradly doesn't get sucked into the propeller and turned into fish bait, he looks ever so close to that big tanker.

It's obvious from the video how dangerous this activity is. Also obvious that it's no fun at all.

Just saying.


yeah right, they probably were counting the prop blades they were that close




still couldn't see the local authorities down there saying go ahead in the shipping lanes.

honestly some of you smart guys have lost your minds on this one




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