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Surfrod66
Surfrod66
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22 Jan 2012 8:03pm
There is a SUP Race on the Central coast (Toowoon Bay)on the 18th Feb with a$1000 for first across the line one of the crew down the beach was telling me to day.. Anyone got any more details about this?
Entry fees etc..
glennc
glennc
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23 Jan 2012 12:29pm
I don't think you need to worry about 1st prize Rod
sharpie
sharpie
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23 Jan 2012 12:44pm
ring Will A.
Eastcoast SUP
Eastcoast SUP
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23 Jan 2012 1:37pm
Here are some more details:

SUP Australia Events on track -
$1,000 first prize cash downwind events


SUP Australia is pleased to confirm that the remainder events for the 2011/12 competition season with $1,000 first prize cash money for the winner of the Open Mens 14ft and under downwind event for the QLD and NSW state titles held at Brisbane and Central Coast respectively.

This prize money is sponsored by ASI (academy of Surfing Instructors) the world leader in Stand Up Paddle training and accreditation. It coincides with the release of ASI's Downwind Instructors course. Developed by industry experts, ASI Downwind Instructors accreditation is the only accreditation at this level in the world today. Read more: ASI Downwind Instructors course

Stay tuned for other prizes for other divisions.


Queensland State Titles - Race Events
Sandgate. Brisbane
Downwind (10 kms) 11 Feb - $1,000 first place open men, 14 ft and under
Flat water (6 km & 1500 metres). 12 Feb

http://www.sup-australia.com/events/qld-titles


NSW State Titles - Race Events
Downwind 18 Feb (10 kms) Toowoon Bay - $1,000 first place open men, 14 ft and under
Flat water 19 Feb (6 km & 1500 metres). Memorial Park, The Entrance

www.sup-australia.com/events/nsw-titles

The Entrance event is a great location, based on the foreshore. It is kindly supported by The Entrance Town Centre Committee with local newspaper advertising, and PR and news coverage.
Surfrod66
Surfrod66
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24 Jan 2012 8:21pm
Cool I am in just for the Down winder!!
angie pangi
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24 Jan 2012 7:51pm
Obvisously they don't girls to enter? $1000 for men only and nothing for females at all, that's pretty piss poor really!
X Angie
paul.j
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24 Jan 2012 8:06pm
Now I might be way of the mark but really a piece of paper for teaching DW now? Sound like a way to make money to me!! The only people who know how to teach DW are the people who are good at it and have been doing it for a long time and understand how the ocean works!! If you think you can do a days course and get your peice of papper and teach stuff like this you are dreaming!!! Sounds like a quick grab for cash to me.

Jacko
rahams
rahams
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24 Jan 2012 9:55pm
paul.j said...

Now I might be way of the mark but really a piece of paper for teaching DW now? Sound like a way to make money to me!! The only people who know how to teach DW are the people who are good at it and have been doing it for a long time and understand how the ocean works!! If you think you can do a days course and get your peice of papper and teach stuff like this you are dreaming!!! Sounds like a quick grab for cash to me.

Jacko


dont want to sound like a wanker but unless you or kelly or jm was the teacher what cred has the course .it is just a peice of paper
laceys lane
laceys lane
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24 Jan 2012 9:08pm
rahams said...

paul.j said...

Now I might be way of the mark but really a piece of paper for teaching DW now? Sound like a way to make money to me!! The only people who know how to teach DW are the people who are good at it and have been doing it for a long time and understand how the ocean works!! If you think you can do a days course and get your peice of papper and teach stuff like this you are dreaming!!! Sounds like a quick grab for cash to me.

Jacko


dont want to sound like a wanker but unless you or kelly or jm was the teacher what cred has the course .it is just a peice of paper


and mikeman, he will be the first to say he's not a racer or the fastest, but he know his stuff.
i owe him a lot for his help
rahams
rahams
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24 Jan 2012 10:12pm
laceys lane said...

rahams said...

paul.j said...

Now I might be way of the mark but really a piece of paper for teaching DW now? Sound like a way to make money to me!! The only people who know how to teach DW are the people who are good at it and have been doing it for a long time and understand how the ocean works!! If you think you can do a days course and get your peice of papper and teach stuff like this you are dreaming!!! Sounds like a quick grab for cash to me.

Jacko


dont want to sound like a wanker but unless you or kelly or jm was the teacher what cred has the course .it is just a peice of paper


and mikeman, he will be the first to say he's not a racer or the fastest, but he know his stuff.
i owe him a lot for his help

i could add heaps of people but im sure none of them would be giving you your peice of paper.
MrMyagi
MrMyagi
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24 Jan 2012 10:16pm
laceys lane said...

rahams said...

paul.j said...

Now I might be way of the mark but really a piece of paper for teaching DW now? Sound like a way to make money to me!! The only people who know how to teach DW are the people who are good at it and have been doing it for a long time and understand how the ocean works!! If you think you can do a days course and get your peice of papper and teach stuff like this you are dreaming!!! Sounds like a quick grab for cash to me.

Jacko


dont want to sound like a wanker but unless you or kelly or jm was the teacher what cred has the course .it is just a peice of paper


and mikeman, he will be the first to say he's not a racer or the fastest, but he know his stuff.
i owe him a lot for his help


Any objections to adding Woogie Marsh and Sam Parker to the list as well?
Ali Cat
Ali Cat
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24 Jan 2012 9:38pm
angie pangi said...

Obvisously they don't girls to enter? $1000 for men only and nothing for females at all, that's pretty piss poor really!
X Angie


Well said Angie!

I can understand race organisers offering a bigger prize for the men as the field is always larger... But there's more and more girls getting involved in racing, and prepared to invest their time and money in supporting race events across the country! You only need to look at the Doctor race with 4 girls from the east coast (and one from NZ) traveling over to compete against each other! We want to race but when you offer a decent prize for the guys and nothing for the girls, it's a massive disincentive to support the event! May as well invest our time & money in other events that support us in return.

We pay the same travel costs and entry fees, we paddle just as hard on the day (albeit not quite as fast as the top guys) so it's a bit of a slap in the face to have comparatively nothing to race for.
paul.j
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24 Jan 2012 9:50pm
There are about 20 or even more people who could teach it but that's not really the point!!
laceys lane
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24 Jan 2012 10:42pm
rahams said...

laceys lane said...

rahams said...

paul.j said...

Now I might be way of the mark but really a piece of paper for teaching DW now? Sound like a way to make money to me!! The only people who know how to teach DW are the people who are good at it and have been doing it for a long time and understand how the ocean works!! If you think you can do a days course and get your peice of papper and teach stuff like this you are dreaming!!! Sounds like a quick grab for cash to me.

Jacko


dont want to sound like a wanker but unless you or kelly or jm was the teacher what cred has the course .it is just a peice of paper


and mikeman, he will be the first to say he's not a racer or the fastest, but he know his stuff.
i owe him a lot for his help

i could add heaps of people but im sure none of them would be giving you your peice of paper.


i'm not after a piece of paper unless i'm in the loo
rahams
rahams
NSW
544 posts
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24 Jan 2012 11:56pm
laceys lane said...

rahams said...

laceys lane said...

rahams said...

paul.j said...

Now I might be way of the mark but really a piece of paper for teaching DW now? Sound like a way to make money to me!! The only people who know how to teach DW are the people who are good at it and have been doing it for a long time and understand how the ocean works!! If you think you can do a days course and get your peice of papper and teach stuff like this you are dreaming!!! Sounds like a quick grab for cash to me.

Jacko


dont want to sound like a wanker but unless you or kelly or jm was the teacher what cred has the course .it is just a peice of paper


and mikeman, he will be the first to say he's not a racer or the fastest, but he know his stuff.
i owe him a lot for his help

i could add heaps of people but im sure none of them would be giving you your peice of paper.


i'm not after a piece of paper unless i'm in the loo



thats right
DUDE
DUDE
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29 Jan 2012 12:45am
angie pangi said...

Obvisously they don't girls to enter? $1000 for men only and nothing for females at all, that's pretty piss poor really!
X Angie


Fair comment.
However (and i could be wrong),the rules state;

SUPA Competition Rules - SUP Racing
Australian Championship Titles



The national racing titles are open to all competitors. i.e. the state events do not act as a qualifier for the national events.

Entry:
-Must be a SUPA member or a SUPA affiliated SUP club member
-You can be from another state and enter multiple states.
-Australian resident

Nothing stopping a chick from winning the grand.
Just have to be first over the line.
DUDE
DUDE
NSW
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29 Jan 2012 12:54am
Unless in the fine print they have Seabreeze contest rule 17,

17. Seabreeze.com.au, like the Tax Department, reserves the right to update these rules to account for smarty-pants people who try and work the system to their own advantage.

If so ya buggered
Ali Cat
Ali Cat
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29 Jan 2012 10:05am
DUDE said...
Nothing stopping a chick from winning the grand.
Just have to be first over the line.



Except that the $1000 is for 1st place 'open men 14ft and under' not 1st over the line.
Not that it's likely, but it would be interesting to see whether the would award it to a girl it she happened to beat all the men.
DUDE
DUDE
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29 Jan 2012 12:41pm
Ali Cat said...

DUDE said...
Nothing stopping a chick from winning the grand.
Just have to be first over the line.



Except that the $1000 is for 1st place 'open men 14ft and under' not 1st over the line.
Not that it's likely, but it would be interesting to see whether the would award it to a girl it she happened to beat all the men.


Had another quick look at the rukes,and i cannot see anything that states that a WOMAN/FEMALE cannot enter and win the open MENS race.
Ali Cat
Ali Cat
QLD
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29 Jan 2012 12:05pm
Last time I checked, none of us were MEN!

They wouldn't separate the divisions into men's and women's if you could just enter either!
husq2100
husq2100
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29 Jan 2012 2:53pm
I dont see the long term advantage to having state titles and non-qualifiing nationals??? sure it means a little more flexability for those to make one or the other around work/life, but as far as the sport is concerned you want to promote participation....most other crediable events have local, state and then leading to nationals for a reason..yes SUPA is young but so far they dont seem to be doing themselves any favours and with women making as much effort in training and traveling as the guys why the hell not cater for them???

pull your socks up SUPA
hb
hb
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hb hb
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29 Jan 2012 3:10pm
paul.j said...

Now I might be way of the mark but really a piece of paper for teaching DW now? Sound like a way to make money to me!! The only people who know how to teach DW are the people who are good at it and have been doing it for a long time and understand how the ocean works!! If you think you can do a days course and get your peice of papper and teach stuff like this you are dreaming!!! Sounds like a quick grab for cash to me.

Jacko


In todays world there are instructors / lectures that have and never lived or worked in the real world yet they are the teachers, their are thousands of courses that people attend every day to get a piece of "paper" that allows them to be more informed. eg a first aid course does not make you a paramedic or a doctor but it helps you to understand and be better prepared for the unkown. To gain a level one coaching course in any sport and the piece of paper that goes with it, you do not have to be a legend of that sport, on the contray, you just have to attend the course.

Now if an organisation wants to better inform novice paddlers about the sport of downwind paddling they should be encouraged, especially by the industry as the number of paddlers / consumers will grow. I don't know the content of the days course or the instructors but what i do know is that with any basic coaching course there are certain basic elements that all athletes shoud understand and this can be taught by people with diverse backgrounds. .

Items such as basic water safety, nutrition, need for hydration, weather forecasting & understanding, the paddleboard and paddle equipment and construction. Basic training programs both on the water and in the gym and also stretching / recovery are just a few neccesatities that need to be understood before committing to serious open ocean downwind paddling.

all of the above can be taught and learnt over a day course to get the basics and it does not have to be from a "legend" of the sport. A sport which is really only about seven years old in australia, all the "legends" that have been named in other posts above are from a diverse paddling back ground. (n.b some of the best footy players have made the worse coaches). So lets presume every one is innocent until proven guilty of "cashin' in on the sport of stand up, heaven help us there's allready enough of that & egos on the gold coast.

if this organisation can assist novice paddlers well good luck to them, I dont think their intentions are that every paddler has to have a piece of paper to enjoy downwinding.

I have no affliation with anyone, I'm just happy that some one has taken the time to organise a race.

as for the prize money "May the best athlete/paddler win".
DUDE
DUDE
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29 Jan 2012 4:14pm
.

Jacko




as for the prize money "May the best athlete/paddler win".



I think that is the point i was trying to make.
well said Jacko
pmorgan1974
pmorgan1974
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30 Jan 2012 3:06pm
I was talking to a mate yesterday about this, and he just laughed. Referencing the cash for the guys and nothing for the chicks being like something from pro surfing in the 80's. Or a throw back to Anchorman. see below ------



I support ASI, as they are getting out there and doing good work in the sport, but yeh I think there should be something for men and women..
scotty100
scotty100
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30 Jan 2012 4:53pm
I'm in the ****house now! Reading this crap ! I think I need some downwind paper !! Can you send me some
teatrea
teatrea
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30 Jan 2012 5:13pm
I do like the idea of the shorter races they offer though , not every one likes paddling marathons.
paul.j
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30 Jan 2012 5:17pm
teatrea said...

I do like the idea of the shorter races they offer though , not every one likes paddling marathons.


You should like whats coming up on the Goldy this year then!!! very exciting!!!!!

teatrea
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30 Jan 2012 5:25pm
paul.j said...

teatrea said...

I do like the idea of the shorter races they offer though , not every one likes paddling marathons.


You should like whats coming up on the Goldy this year then!!! very exciting!!!!!




Do Tell
laceys lane
laceys lane
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30 Jan 2012 5:42pm
teatrea said...

I do like the idea of the shorter races they offer though , not every one likes paddling marathons.


i think most races are going to be longer than paddling from winders to the alley for waves teatrea
teatrea
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30 Jan 2012 5:46pm
laceys lane said...

teatrea said...

I do like the idea of the shorter races they offer though , not every one likes paddling marathons.


i think most races are going to be longer than paddling from winders to the alley for waves teatrea


Whaaaa , thats plenty far enough for meSome of us are just not cut out for long races.I know being fit would probably help though
Secret Agent
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30 Jan 2012 10:32pm
teatrea said...

paul.j said...

teatrea said...

I do like the idea of the shorter races they offer though , not every one likes paddling marathons.


You should like whats coming up on the Goldy this year then!!! very exciting!!!!!




Do Tell


SUPSA has scheduled a heap of internal and external events this year. Next on the list of course is the "12 Towers Ocean SUP Race" (You'll kill it Teatree) followed by a 3 Race Flat Water Sprint Series. We designed a handicap short distance (For Teatree) and a couple of BOP Style events not to mention various external events too. A massive year for SUP. (Check out www.supsa.org for all details and events)
All we need is for everyone to support all races locally, State wide and Nationally. It doesn't matter who organisers them or what body sanctions it, just bloody get out there and do them. The only way SUP will truly take off in this country will be for everyone to stop bickering and get on with the enjoyment. Isn't that what it is all about?
Anyway, Just do it! (Hey, nice slogan)

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