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Surfpolice
Surfpolice
NSW
5 posts
NSW, 5 posts
10 Feb 2011 3:09pm
this needs a

sorry guys but some sup riders are becoming a real nuisance. were getting plenty of them down the far south coast and some are unbearable.

one bloke in particulars dropping in because he thinks he can knuckle, anothers taking off through the pack out of effin control like your mate. because hes been in the water for five minutes he doesnt seem to know the rules. his attitude is attack.

i love surfing with goat boats, body boarders, mals, sups ect as long as everyones got a bit of respect.
its pretty easy to catch waves on a sup and make a pig of yourself and thats where the problem lies. its also pretty easy to paddle out in the lineup and take your turn on whatever your choice of craft is.

some days i feel like getting a sup myself with a effin chainsaw tied on the nose
mbuzz
mbuzz
NSW
261 posts
NSW, 261 posts
10 Feb 2011 6:24pm
What board was he riding? If I see him doing the same at my local beach, I'll paddle over and have a friendly word.
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
NSW, 1525 posts
10 Feb 2011 6:52pm
mbuzz said...

What board was he riding? If I see him doing the same at my local beach, I'll paddle over and have a friendly word.


He won't be down your way-he's a point end of the peninsula type.
karatemonkey
karatemonkey
8 posts
8 posts
10 Feb 2011 7:43pm
Interesting read, not cool at all.

I have 2 young kids who I am just introducing to the sport of catching waves and if something like this happened to them I would hope my wife was there so she could try and control me before I ended up in a police car.

Maybe this guys needs a taste of his own medicine. A few local SUP'ers go out on old boards and run his arse down in the line up. I mean accidents do happen in the surf right?







dtm
dtm
NSW
1610 posts
dtm dtm
NSW, 1610 posts
10 Feb 2011 11:54pm
this guy sounds like a tool , the sad thing is hes riding a 12 footer so is likely going out when its tiny or fat or areas where kids are surfing so he may not come across real surfers anytime soon i just hope he drops in on the wrong guy and ends up getting told what he needs

But ban sups thats pretty silly Matt, i actually have 7 stiches above my eye from a clubbie board i didnt see coming! An my mate has this mouth split open by one about 6months ago and these are the lifesavers? So its not the craft the pilot!

Coming Matt name and shame
Legion
Legion
WA
2222 posts
WA, 2222 posts
11 Feb 2011 5:10am
goatman said...

I don't think banning is the way to go because as Hilly rightfully states in the other topic, it is the pilot not the craft. I have had close calls with Mals, goatboats, kayaks, shorties and even Clubbie boats!!

The problem is some craft are more inclined to catch waves way earlier than the pack. A kook on a shortboard or booger sitting outside is unlikely to catch a wave through the pack unless the pack is kooks sitting too far inside. You simply don't have the paddle power on those craft. Mals a bit more so, but at the breaks I frequent most mal riders are going to know what's up. I avoid areas where the more "recreational" mal riders go. Goatboats aren't prevalent any more so they're not something you really have to worry about. A kook on a 12' SUP sitting outside of me, well, that's something that I would worry a lot about.

Re clubbie boats, thankfully they're not a curse we have to live with in these parts, but there was a long thread on another forum about them about a year ago that made them seem pretty deadly and disrespectful.
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
11 Feb 2011 8:31am
Legion said...

goatman said...

I don't think banning is the way to go because as Hilly rightfully states in the other topic, it is the pilot not the craft. I have had close calls with Mals, goatboats, kayaks, shorties and even Clubbie boats!!

The problem is some craft are more inclined to catch waves way earlier than the pack. A kook on a shortboard or booger sitting outside is unlikely to catch a wave through the pack unless the pack is kooks sitting too far inside. You simply don't have the paddle power on those craft. Mals a bit more so, but at the breaks I frequent most mal riders are going to know what's up. I avoid areas where the more "recreational" mal riders go. Goatboats aren't prevalent any more so they're not something you really have to worry about. A kook on a 12' SUP sitting outside of me, well, that's something that I would worry a lot about.

Re clubbie boats, thankfully they're not a curse we have to live with in these parts, but there was a long thread on another forum about them about a year ago that made them seem pretty deadly and disrespectful.


back from holidays mate
goatman
goatman
NSW
2151 posts
NSW, 2151 posts
11 Feb 2011 12:34pm
Legion said...
A kook on a 12' SUP sitting outside of me, well, that's something that I would worry a lot about.



Yep, as I said the pilot not the craft. Personally, if its crowded I sit closer to shore (or rocks) than most of the guys on shorties and get the medium ones.
dtm
dtm
NSW
1610 posts
dtm dtm
NSW, 1610 posts
11 Feb 2011 5:51pm
i find mals can sit further out than me on my sup, as its almost under the water when im standing on it , i sit in with the shortboarders mostly
Legion
Legion
WA
2222 posts
WA, 2222 posts
11 Feb 2011 4:27pm
doggie said...

Legion said...

goatman said...

I don't think banning is the way to go because as Hilly rightfully states in the other topic, it is the pilot not the craft. I have had close calls with Mals, goatboats, kayaks, shorties and even Clubbie boats!!

The problem is some craft are more inclined to catch waves way earlier than the pack. A kook on a shortboard or booger sitting outside is unlikely to catch a wave through the pack unless the pack is kooks sitting too far inside. You simply don't have the paddle power on those craft. Mals a bit more so, but at the breaks I frequent most mal riders are going to know what's up. I avoid areas where the more "recreational" mal riders go. Goatboats aren't prevalent any more so they're not something you really have to worry about. A kook on a 12' SUP sitting outside of me, well, that's something that I would worry a lot about.

Re clubbie boats, thankfully they're not a curse we have to live with in these parts, but there was a long thread on another forum about them about a year ago that made them seem pretty deadly and disrespectful.


back from holidays mate


Few more days mate. Just poking the hornet's nest before I return.
Leroy13
Leroy13
VIC
1174 posts
VIC, 1174 posts
11 Feb 2011 7:29pm
Hi all, I 've been secretly stalking this forum for about twelve months now and finally got the nerve to respond to an article. The guy who was riding the board is clearly an incompetent fool and needs to be told so. However as the father of four children I'd like to know why a ten year old was in this potentially dangerous situation without an adult supervising closely. Accidents can happen anywhere and at anytime. When a competent person is in close attendance then it reduces the chances of these sort of problems eg. " When you see that D......d on a wave get out of the way. Twelve footers and up are hard to control but not impossible to do so. One thing I can say without doubt is that violence is never the answer. Education is.
JonWest
JonWest
QLD
105 posts
QLD, 105 posts
12 Feb 2011 6:43am
Leroy13 said...

Hi all, I 've been secretly stalking this forum for about twelve months now and finally got the nerve to respond to an article. The guy who was riding the board is clearly an incompetent fool and needs to be told so. However as the father of four children I'd like to know why a ten year old was in this potentially dangerous situation without an adult supervising closely. Accidents can happen anywhere and at anytime. When a competent person is in close attendance then it reduces the chances of these sort of problems eg. " When you see that D......d on a wave get out of the way. Twelve footers and up are hard to control but not impossible to do so. One thing I can say without doubt is that violence is never the answer. Education is.


AAgh good point Leroy and your positive comments are welcoming.
Simondo
Simondo
VIC
8025 posts
VIC, 8025 posts
12 Feb 2011 7:07pm
Fair point Loco.

On the other hand, I've had some kind of close encounters with kiddies in the shore break not paying attention. I'll warn them in advance, 10-20m out sometimes (on a good small point break, on a malibu or SUP), but they can be like Rabbits in the Headlights.... stunned, don't know which way to go.... and if they start to swim or walk away it can be worse sometimes....

All good fun. (so far!)
kitesurfbali
kitesurfbali
WA
531 posts
WA, 531 posts
12 Feb 2011 6:53pm
My rules are simple...
Never try to take a wave if you have anyone in front of you!!!

I mostly SUP or take people to where there are no surfers.. If we go to a place with surfer we always stay well on the side of the pack and catch what is left over!

I have seen people taking off in busy line up and making their way pushing others with the paddle...
NOt going there to SUP again!!!
Bye Jankie

Farquo
Farquo
QLD
108 posts
QLD, 108 posts
13 Feb 2011 7:57am
Loco,
Give us a board colour at least. I am up the start of the pointy end of the beaches. Mind you I dont know of too many 12ft SUPs in the surf up here.
PM me if you like and I will have a word to the guy if I see him.
Tang
Tang
VIC
580 posts
VIC, 580 posts
13 Feb 2011 2:19pm
There's ways and means of having a word. It always works - doesn't matter if you get told to %$#@ off, the twit always takes it on in some way - they either have a rotten surf the rest of the time fuming or think twice next time. Having said that, greed is greed no matter what you ride.

I'm getting more concerned with the surprise factor when i paddle out and after a few waves i usually get told that it's good that I'm taking my turn and calling people into waves. Sad that this is the exception rather than the rule. A bit more hooting would go a long way.
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
NSW, 1525 posts
14 Feb 2011 3:45pm
Farquo said...

Loco,
Give us a board colour at least. I am up the start of the pointy end of the beaches. Mind you I dont know of too many 12ft SUPs in the surf up here.
PM me if you like and I will have a word to the guy if I see him.


White 12 foot SA.
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
14 Feb 2011 12:51pm
Leroy13 said...

Hi all, I 've been secretly stalking this forum for about twelve months now and finally got the nerve to respond to an article. The guy who was riding the board is clearly an incompetent fool and needs to be told so. However as the father of four children I'd like to know why a ten year old was in this potentially dangerous situation without an adult supervising closely. Accidents can happen anywhere and at anytime. When a competent person is in close attendance then it reduces the chances of these sort of problems eg. " When you see that D......d on a wave get out of the way. Twelve footers and up are hard to control but not impossible to do so. One thing I can say without doubt is that violence is never the answer. Education is.


Hey Leroy13 that is a nice gut you are running there
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
NSW, 1525 posts
14 Feb 2011 3:52pm
Leroy13 said...

However as the father of four children I'd like to know why a ten year old was in this potentially dangerous situation without an adult supervising closely. Accidents can happen anywhere and at anytime.


Leroy welcome.

Our end of the N Beaches has HEAPS of young grom surfers-competent enough to be out there by themselves-and dad was on the beach watching-and the kid who was injured was about 20 metres from shore surfing the whitewater-and it was a 1-2 (at best) foot day. So no blame to be placed on the kid or his parents.




Farquo said...

Loco,
Give us a board colour at least. I am up the start of the pointy end of the beaches. Mind you I dont know of too many 12ft SUPs in the surf up here.
PM me if you like and I will have a word to the guy if I see him.


White 12 foot SA.

dtm said...

this guy sounds like a tool , the sad thing is hes riding a 12 footer so is likely going out when its tiny or fat or areas where kids are surfing so he may not come across real surfers anytime soon


EXACTLY. And the only 'real' surfers he's going to come across are guys like me out with their groms.

Legion said...

The problem is some craft are more inclined to catch waves way earlier than the pack. A kook on a shortboard or booger sitting outside is unlikely to catch a wave through the pack unless the pack is kooks sitting too far inside. You simply don't have the paddle power on those craft. t. A kook on a 12' SUP sitting outside of me, well, that's something that I would worry a lot about.



And that's EXACTLY what's going on with this guy-who was never a competent surfer and he now finds himself on a 12 feet board able to catch all the waves he wants and careen, with limited control, through the inside pack of surfers-particularly groms as he's only out on small days when they're in abundance.
dtm
dtm
NSW
1610 posts
dtm dtm
NSW, 1610 posts
14 Feb 2011 5:50pm
too funny loco me and casso saw this guy in our semi in the club comp he paddle through with no leggie on a 12 SA and we both said after thats that guy im sure of it! To funny i was giving him the look as i though he was gunna try and surf through the contest zone but he had this angry look on his head ? Anyway he kept on paddling down the beach lucky for me as im tiny
Leroy13
Leroy13
VIC
1174 posts
VIC, 1174 posts
14 Feb 2011 11:30pm
Yeah, Doggie after 40 odd years of shortboarding ( (9'6" was a short board when I started!!) I developed that gut sitting around and telling every body how good I was. I hope you realise that's my Avatar!!!!!! I had to stop about five years ago because of a back complaint called Canal Stenosis and about 10 prolapsed discs. It was either a Laminectomy or SUPPING. Did I make the right choice? Sure Did!! What I was trying to say, and this in no way reflects on competency of the child's father, is that kids need to learn to be aware in the surf. It's as important as being able to do an air or cutback. The out of control kook obviously has some mental problem if he thinks that he is impressing anyone and I fail to see how he could be having fun by nearly killing children. Sorry, but if had've seen him in the water I would have worded my kids up. I'm not sure if the laws are the same in NSW, but I think that the water police could have been informed as his actions where reckless at best and downright potentially lethal at worst. They don't seem to do much except tell people that they're too far out in the water without a PFD.
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
NSW, 1525 posts
15 Feb 2011 6:40pm
dtm said...

too funny loco me and casso saw this guy in our semi in the club comp he paddle through with no leggie on a 12 SA and we both said after thats that guy im sure of it! To funny i was giving him the look as i though he was gunna try and surf through the contest zone but he had this angry look on his head ? Anyway he kept on paddling down the beach lucky for me as im tiny


There's 2 fella's with the same board up here (I know both)-one usually paddles the length of the beach, the other goes out at kiddies and NAv and is the menace
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