unless you weight is well over 120kgs i highly doudt a 4 inch thick board is flexing at all especialy with all the 6oz cloth on it and them stiffening up the rails with carbon on them,this would create less flex again the carbon could help for strenght though and stiffness!

dtm said...

unless you weight is well over 120kgs i highly doudt a 4 inch thick board is flexing at all especialy with all the 6oz cloth on it and them stiffening up the rails with carbon on them,this would create less flex again the carbon could help for strenght though and stiffness!

I am 80kg and are riding a 9'6x 30"x 4" and I can feel the flex and recoil of the board. It dosent flex like some of the mal skateboards that you can get, it's very suttle but equates to that "little extra" that you get coming out of your turns espically your bottom turn which is the most important of all.
We are not saying that this technology is going to change SUP boards for ever, it's just another option for riders, some people will love it and some people will hate it. I came from a shortboard background and have ridden Fiber Flex boards is the past and have always preferred the feel of my traditional PU shortboard. But ridding the Fiber Flex in a SUP I was blown away and will probably never look back. As I said in a pervious post " you can't knock it until you try it" so maybe rather than sitting behind your computer "trying to get your head around it etc" you go out and demo one for yourself, what do you have to loose, other than your narrow mindnes?

thesupshop did you just say im narrow minded? good on you mate you tool, so sorry to question something on a public forum. Guess i hit a sore spot.
But whatever i really dont want to get into a debate here so go flexyourself

dtm said...

unless you weight is well over 120kgs i highly doudt a 4 inch thick board is flexing at all especialy with all the 6oz cloth on it and them stiffening up the rails with carbon on them,this would create less flex again the carbon could help for strenght though and stiffness!

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lookielookie said...

its not a pop out!!! its not covered in car paint.theres two layers of cloth on the deck, one on the bottom. its 9' long. turn your board upside down, stand on it and see how much it bounces. thats flex
Foam flexes, carbons rigid, theres bound to be a ping in there somewhere.
there not launching the board into space, there not making unfound comments. A two time world champion says it flexes and its one of the best stand up hes ridden!!!
not much more really needs to be said about it...

Hey it really is a lovely board, but I'm with Logman and DTM, I can't see how there would be much flex in big thick SUP when merely bottom turning on a wave. Sure, turn it upside down on a hard surface and stand in the middle but that is not comparable to doing a bottom turn with your feet spread apart distributing the load is it?

I am curious about this, does anyone have any hard evidence that SUPS actually flex throught turns?

hilly said...

Doggie and Goatman get their shortboard sups in more critical positions due to the rocker IMHO

Might be due to the talent of the rider too.

Casso said...

hilly said...

Doggie and Goatman get their shortboard sups in more critical positions due to the rocker IMHO

Might be due to the talent of the rider too.

Under selling yourself a little there Casso

Don't know if anybody here has surfed firewire surfboards but you can definetly feel a bit of flex on the standard surfboard shapes that are normal thickness but the thicker retro fish/hybred boards i dont think flex at all. Great boards the dominators,el feugo etc but not much flex to me. Now they are less than 3 inches thick with balsa rails and 4 oz cloth so I would doubt you could get a 4 inch thick sup to flex with the constuction used on the anderson. just a wanky name. nice shape, could do with more rocker.but may work ok on small waves.

If it wasnt for windsurfers, you blokes would still be shaping 12kg sups in pu....

Hey, if you can feel the flex, great.

Some people rekon there "power balance" works.

you're going to have to direct all your tech questions to hayden, cause i really don't care if there's 1.75 mm of flex as opposed to 1.83 mm in the bottom 1/4 of my inside rail.
I imagine, cause i don't do it, that windsurfers would need to be quite rigid, depending on the discipline.
As far as surfboards go, in another life i had pro surfers chucking man tantrums about not having 1/16" "wax comb lines" on the bottom of there boards because they wanted it there to stiffen up. Id also have joe punter telling me that the 1/8" difference in ther board width just ruined their indo plans.
I think well have to agree to disagree on this topic.
or i might just want to give up on trying to convince you, cause all you West Oz folk ride pop outs any way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUUUURN, booyashaka..................

There are some good pop outs around....
People go on and on about importing a few pop out surfboards, then go buy a local custom to make sure they do the auusie thing, then tie it on the roof of there imported car worth 100 x the value?

goatman said...
It's more likely your cheap plastic fins that are flexing!

Hate to burst your bubble mate, but have swapped em out for some nice stiff Carbon beauties. Definately no flex there. I don't particularly want it either thanks.

Back on topic, I had a look at Casso's stick on the weekend and it was very nice - weight was good, surprisingly wide in the tail compared to the pics - pretty low volume rails. He surfed very very well on it in his first round, just didn't get waves in the semi.

I could really get started on this one. The windsurfer comments always get me going. I won't though, it's too nice a day outside.

Does a SUP flex? If you can flex it upside down on hard ground with 1 times gravity you would be surprised how many G's momentarily pass through a board in a turn. It's not how much the board flexes it's how it rebounds that you can or can't feel. Some boards feel alive, this is twang or rebound from the board and fins. If you don't think you are already feeling it make the same board twice with and without a stringer, make the same board again with a bamboo laminate. Then really kill it by making another and glassing it, putting a layer of divinycell, more glass and a kilo of car paint and see what happens. Your common sense tells you that these boards would all feel different. I think you are already feeling flex.

I was going to run the experiment of making the same board 3 times in 3 different constructions to demonstrate the differences of flex and performance, spoke to SUP World, had the materials and labour sponsored for free but never proceeded as the effort towards an apathetic market of people sold on mass produced boards really did not seem worth it.

I think there is a lot of merit in flex goaty. Its worth while if you can find out a way of doing in on a 4 inch thick blank. Putting carbon on the rails aint it
I am with you at this stage, better concentrating on the shape.
It will take a major change in construction before we see it.