PTWoody said..SP said..PTWoody said..
Just last weekend, I witnessed an angry old fart on a long board grab and flip the board of one of our SUP crew while they were both on the same wave. Granted the SUP surfer did technically drop in but this is a party wave location that is 95% SUP, and this long boarder came from way out the back linking a wave from off the point - good for him that he managed to catch such a long ride.
My only point is this - you can't go around accusing SUPs of being big and dangerous, and then do something as potentially hazardous as flipping a 10'+ board when it is on the wave right next to you. How many ways could that board roll over and hit you hard or impale you with a fin? Karma practically demands it.
So surfer flips another surfer off that blatantly dropped in after he has been up and riding for plenty of time for the other bloke to see him and you think he is in the wrong..
Therein lies the problem..
Rule 1 of surfing..
Someone on wave.. DON't EVEN PADDLE FOR IT..
Not condoning grabbing the bloke but if people can't even show the most basic and well known of courtesy / etiquette then what so you expect.. The craft is irrelevant, people attitudes is what needs to change
You might need to look up the word "granted". I clearly acknowledged the second guy was in the wrong. Technically. But when every wave is shared happily in this specific location, it's a bit rich trying to enforce rules that don't apply here.
Anyhow, first guy loses moral high ground relative to "danger" when he has no consideration for his own or anyone else's safety is the simple point I was making.
Gee someone gets grumpy when opinons differ from his..
why would i need to look it up, you admitted he is in the wrong then went on to justify why it was ok. i offered my opinion as to why it was against the commonly accepted etiquette of surfing and not ok...
It may be common at that location but obviously it wasn't ok to the bloke on the longboard. I would as I said not even paddle for a wave if someone is one it unless they said Go ..
As for safety. how close was he taking of the bloke on the lb if the bloke could put both hands on the rail and flip him? Pretty close I'd guess. so how is that fitting your "Anyhow, first guy loses moral high ground relative to "danger" when he has no consideration for his own or anyone else's safety is the simple point I was making."
Maybe the simple and safest point is don't take off in front of people close enough that they can grab your board and flip you.
And you missed my main point.
"Not condoning grabbing the bloke but if people can't even show the most basic and well known of courtesy / etiquette then what so you expect.. The craft is irrelevant, people attitudes is what needs to change"
And remember, surfing is fun, enjoy it... and don't ruin the enjoyment of others...
Stay Grumpy, I'm done replying.