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PhoenixStar
PhoenixStar
QLD
477 posts
QLD, 477 posts
20 Jan 2017 4:53pm
GKandCC said..
Just to clarify, does an engine driven compressor have a physical link with the engine, i.e. a shaft, or does it get 'driven' by an alternator off the motor? If the latter, then it should be possible to replace the electrical input with any other source, surely??


It is driven by an electromagnetic clutch from the engine. Typically draws a couple of horse power so it is totally incompatible with battery driven compressors even if you were willing to install some horrendous plumbing to switch compressors. You will need to run your engine for half an hour twice a day, longer in the tropics, and that is why most people are switching to 12 volt systems. Much quieter and usually powered by solar and it avoids salt water cooling, anodes, leaking compressor seals and often significant space.
GKandCC
GKandCC
NSW
218 posts
NSW, 218 posts
20 Jan 2017 6:05pm
PhoenixStar said..



GKandCC said..
Just to clarify, does an engine driven compressor have a physical link with the engine, i.e. a shaft, or does it get 'driven' by an alternator off the motor? If the latter, then it should be possible to replace the electrical input with any other source, surely??





It is driven by an electromagnetic clutch from the engine. Typically draws a couple of horse power so it is totally incompatible with battery driven compressors even if you were willing to install some horrendous plumbing to switch compressors. You will need to run your engine for half an hour twice a day, longer in the tropics, and that is why most people are switching to 12 volt systems. Much quieter and usually powered by solar and it avoids salt water cooling, anodes, leaking compressor seals and often significant space.




Clearly a superseded technology, go solar, surely. (sounds like a car's air conditioning, do small/medium/large craft/yachts use this type for air-con or do they just rely on an aux generator?
Jolene
Jolene
WA
1624 posts
WA, 1624 posts
20 Jan 2017 3:35pm
What Cisco is saying is that you may have to match the the capacity of the 12vt compressor to that of the engine driven compressor. Otherwise the 12vt compressor may not pump enough refrigerant to supply the evaporator.
Tx valve orifices and orifice tubes can sometimes be changed to control the amount of liquid refrigerant into the evaporator and their capacity will directly effect the H/ pressure and the L/pressure of the system. Other problems may occur at the compressor end with the condenser providing too much sub cooling or over condensing the H/P liquid gas.

It probably would be easier to adapt an engine driven compressor for an already electric system ,,even running both types of compressors on the one system.
GlennGee
GlennGee
QLD
38 posts
QLD, 38 posts
20 Jan 2017 7:25pm
I'm not sure how it is done as frigeration isn't my trade but on my Cav both a 240v and engine compressor share the same eutectic plate and I can run the built in fridge with either engine or shore power.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7755 posts
NSW, 7755 posts
23 Jan 2017 8:33am
Yesterday when I sailed back in to my mooring I was a little surprised to see my tender was missing! I soon found it pulled up the beach near my mooring. Couple of the local liveaboards noticed one hull was full of water and rescued it for me. I managed to row back to the boat ramps and drained out the water. Windrush hulls row reasonably well with just the deck showing! On the trailer with the water draining out the problem was obvious. Years ago when I drilled out the rivet heads for the gudgeons I just filled the holes with epoxy. I left the body of the rivets in place and one of them had popped out. I suspect the back of the rivet had corroded away. Back home I drilled all the old rivets out and oversized the holes to get rid of any of the manufacturers silastic, counter sunk the holes and filled with body filler. 3 layers of cloth and epoxy finished the job. I have been waiting for photos to appear on my GP Facebook page but none yet so here is how she is supposed to float.




slammin
slammin
QLD
998 posts
QLD, 998 posts
23 Jan 2017 5:12pm
Ramona said..
Yesterday when I sailed back in to my mooring I was a little surprised to see my tender was missing! I soon found it pulled up the beach near my mooring. Couple of the local liveaboards noticed one hull was full of water and rescued it for me. I managed to row back to the boat ramps and drained out the water. Windrush hulls row reasonably well with just the deck showing! On the trailer with the water draining out the problem was obvious. Years ago when I drilled out the rivet heads for the gudgeons I just filled the holes with epoxy. I left the body of the rivets in place and one of them had popped out. I suspect the back of the rivet had corroded away. Back home I drilled all the old rivets out and oversized the holes to get rid of any of the manufacturers silastic, counter sunk the holes and filled with body filler. 3 layers of cloth and epoxy finished the job. I have been waiting for photos to appear on my GP Facebook page but none yet so here is how she is supposed to float.





I was just wondering about making our Windrush multipupose. So can you tow a cat?
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7755 posts
NSW, 7755 posts
23 Jan 2017 6:51pm
slammin said..

Ramona said..
Yesterday when I sailed back in to my mooring I was a little surprised to see my tender was missing! I soon found it pulled up the beach near my mooring. Couple of the local liveaboards noticed one hull was full of water and rescued it for me. I managed to row back to the boat ramps and drained out the water. Windrush hulls row reasonably well with just the deck showing! On the trailer with the water draining out the problem was obvious. Years ago when I drilled out the rivet heads for the gudgeons I just filled the holes with epoxy. I left the body of the rivets in place and one of them had popped out. I suspect the back of the rivet had corroded away. Back home I drilled all the old rivets out and oversized the holes to get rid of any of the manufacturers silastic, counter sunk the holes and filled with body filler. 3 layers of cloth and epoxy finished the job. I have been waiting for photos to appear on my GP Facebook page but none yet so here is how she is supposed to float.





I was just wondering about making our Windrush multipupose. So can you tow a cat?


I think it would be similar to herding cats! Because they are designed to sail upwind with out foils the hulls want to go straight. A long enough strop to each hull might work but I have my doubts. I attach the cat to my mooring off one hull and it sits there dead straight in the current and is like parking against a wharf. However when the current is fairly strong the cat has to be parallel to the mothership or she will charge off and there is no way you can hold it. I do motor around on occasion with the cat in the position as in the photo and that works fine.
UncleBob
UncleBob
NSW
1311 posts
NSW, 1311 posts
28 Jan 2017 2:10pm
It's all right southace, I found the missing thread, I guess I must have had a seniors moment
southace
southace
SA
4801 posts
SA, 4801 posts
28 Jan 2017 3:18pm
Still planing at cutting my cockpit through! Got the cat seasick again on the way to remote islands and upside down! Found a Burke wind catcher and thought I would test it out!






southace
southace
SA
4801 posts
SA, 4801 posts
30 Jan 2017 1:36pm
Today the surgeon/butcher has sharpened his tools and made the incision! Dam how can I lock the Cat out tonight!












southace
southace
SA
4801 posts
SA, 4801 posts
30 Jan 2017 1:39pm
Today the surgeon/butcher has sharpened his tools and made the incision! Dam how can I lock the Cat out tonight!












southace
southace
SA
4801 posts
SA, 4801 posts
30 Jan 2017 3:34pm
That will do for today! Close to a walk through cockpit now. I may put doors where the original storm boards went and a new storm board in the new lower cut out!


Andrew68
Andrew68
VIC
433 posts
VIC, 433 posts
30 Jan 2017 6:13pm
southace said..
That will do for today! Close to a walk through cockpit now. I may put doors where the original storm boards went and a new storm board in the new lower cut out!



Wow you must really hate that step. I went the other way and increased the lip on mine by about 1" to make it more weather proof.

A
southace
southace
SA
4801 posts
SA, 4801 posts
30 Jan 2017 5:55pm
Andrew68 said..

southace said..
That will do for today! Close to a walk through cockpit now. I may put doors where the original storm boards went and a new storm board in the new lower cut out!



Wow you must really hate that step. I went the other way and increased the lip on mine by about 1" to make it more weather proof.

A


Mine was 17inch step if you take a look at the previous pics. Now I have a 3 inch lip and will have a 16 inch storm board to fit if somehow my cockpit fills with water!
southace
southace
SA
4801 posts
SA, 4801 posts
30 Jan 2017 6:50pm
Has this forum died or is it just me?
EC31
EC31
NSW
490 posts
NSW, 490 posts
30 Jan 2017 8:08pm

I forget to take a camera with me when I do work on the boat. I forget half the stuff I am supposed to take with me as well.

Re-arranged the winches on the cabin top and added some (well 10) clutches so we now have a choice of terminating at the mast or cockpit for the lines and halyards.
southace
southace
SA
4801 posts
SA, 4801 posts
30 Jan 2017 8:05pm
EC31 said..

I forget to take a camera with me when I do work on the boat. I forget half the stuff I am supposed to take with me as well.

Re-arranged the winches on the cabin top and added some (well 10) clutches so we now have a choice of terminating at the mast or cockpit for the lines and halyards.


It's quite a challenge to take before and after pics. Worth it though. I have 4000 pics on my iPad now and possibly the same on my laptop!
Libran
Libran
92 posts
92 posts
30 Jan 2017 6:02pm
southace said..

Andrew68 said..


southace said..
That will do for today! Close to a walk through cockpit now. I may put doors where the original storm boards went and a new storm board in the new lower cut out!




Wow you must really hate that step. I went the other way and increased the lip on mine by about 1" to make it more weather proof.

A



Mine was 17inch step if you take a look at the previous pics. Now I have a 3 inch lip and will have a 16 inch storm board to fit if somehow my cockpit fills with water!


Fairly radical surgery Southace. Not sure I would have done that as I would be concerned about weakening the structural integrity of the hull. Don't know about your boat but I think the step on mines keeps the sides of mine propped apart and also helps with the torsional stiffness of the hull.
southace
southace
SA
4801 posts
SA, 4801 posts
30 Jan 2017 8:41pm
Libran said..

southace said..


Andrew68 said..



southace said..
That will do for today! Close to a walk through cockpit now. I may put doors where the original storm boards went and a new storm board in the new lower cut out!





Wow you must really hate that step. I went the other way and increased the lip on mine by about 1" to make it more weather proof.

A




Mine was 17inch step if you take a look at the previous pics. Now I have a 3 inch lip and will have a 16 inch storm board to fit if somehow my cockpit fills with water!



Fairly radical surgery Southace. Not sure I would have done that as I would be concerned about weakening the structural integrity of the hull. Don't know about your boat but I think the step on mines keeps the sides of mine propped apart and also helps with the torsional stiffness of the hull.


Oh no seriously it won't effect it structurally it's hard enough cutting into the 24mm ply, the ring frames are somewhere in there too but not touching them. The hull is foam core woven wrovings in epoxy with plywood epoxy decks/cabin and cockpit. I doubt I made any structural flaws in my incisions today.
Concepcion
Concepcion
SA
93 posts
SA, 93 posts
30 Jan 2017 8:45pm
Way to go SA & good on you for getting stuck right into it.
southace
southace
SA
4801 posts
SA, 4801 posts
30 Jan 2017 8:53pm
Gives me the ****s a bit people old school and negitive on this forum. It's not like I cut through a bulkhead! Stupid to have such a step up and over waterproof cockpit if you can't enjoy what you want and not looking at sailing around the world tomorrow.
EC31
EC31
NSW
490 posts
NSW, 490 posts
30 Jan 2017 9:48pm
Mine has the same step, but I enjoy the spot as somewhere to sit and watch the world go by. Doesn't help that all the boat electrics are under the step........




southace
southace
SA
4801 posts
SA, 4801 posts
30 Jan 2017 9:32pm
Yep bad design I can take a wave into the cockpit mop up the mess if it comes into the cabin and still have power.
EC31
EC31
NSW
490 posts
NSW, 490 posts
30 Jan 2017 10:07pm
Mk 1 East Coasts and some of the MK 2's had it as a walk through. I suppose the original customers had a choice on the Mk 2. Not worth my time to change.
shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter
QLD
2668 posts
QLD, 2668 posts
30 Jan 2017 11:44pm
On the race on the weekend I was concerned the VHF was not receiving as well as i would hope, so I went up the mast and of course everything looks fine. The next step is to get a loss meter and check for attenuation. Wish I was better at heights.







whiteout
whiteout
QLD
269 posts
QLD, 269 posts
2 Feb 2017 11:41am
more boat painting ( Grinding, Prep and paint) Looks better just love a steel boat just cannot part with it. Love a challenge......








DAMA
DAMA
QLD
239 posts
QLD, 239 posts
2 Feb 2017 3:10pm
whiteout said..
more boat painting ( Grinding, Prep and paint) Looks better just love a steel boat just cannot part with it. Love a challenge......









I like the offset stanchions,
RiffRaff
RiffRaff
WA
265 posts
WA, 265 posts
10 Feb 2017 5:00pm
Sold it. I'm free
Now to look for something new. Catamaran preferred
HG02
HG02
VIC
5814 posts
VIC, 5814 posts
10 Feb 2017 8:29pm
added some paint the other day and started to reassemble ill finish it tonight


southace
southace
SA
4801 posts
SA, 4801 posts
10 Feb 2017 8:48pm
HG02 said..
added some paint the other day and started to reassemble ill finish it tonight



I hope it's windy where your going ho2. I only turn my wind gen on at nights or if I'm low on power! Bloody noisy thing !
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