Hi all

Looking at buying some wet weather gear but not in the position to spend a fortune

Wondering if anyone has any experience with Musto breathable wet weather trousers and jacket

www.whitworths.com.au/

www.whitworths.com.au/

I can probably spend around the $600 mark but I am open to any suggestions of other brands that my be better value for money

Most of my sailing is during the day in temps from 5 degrees to 30 degrees both cruising and racing plus a overnight race at the start of the season in September

Any feedback would be appreciated

Regards Don

have a look at burke . ... i ve had no problems and good quality

I have Burke set, very very good, except hood is very basic

My gear has seen a bit off use and I have just had to re-weather proof it but the material is still first class!

I brought mine from the Burke factory outlet in Sydney, a lot cheaper than anywhere else.
Ended up with black pants and a grey top which gets a bit dirty, but hey, it was cheap.

Size up at Whitworths and then ring around the factory shops.

I have a set of the Burke Offshore (made from the PB20 stuff) as in your last links Don, bought it before I even bought a yacht, it has lasted well, no problems except the hood is not perfect....uncomfortable, hard to turn your head....end up looking out of one eye while sitting side-on on tiller.
Also have an old set of the Burke Coastal (made from the CB10) still ok, not quite as warm (in the neck and cuffs, pockets etc) as the offshore. Burke is good but expensive, cant say im 'extremely happy' with it, I do do as saltiest1 suggests first to save some $$, will always be a good 2nd set if they don't work out.
cheers

Hi all

Thanks for the feedback so far

I already have a stormy http://www.stormylifejackets.com.au/recreational-pfds/stormy-life-jacket-150n-as4758-1-iso12402-3/#PhotoSwipe1404218121648 that I use and a wet weather jacket from work www.dncworkwear.com.au/Product/3864 but I don't find that either of them are particularly breathable

I am hoping the a jacket and trousers that are designed for sailing such as the Musto stuff that I posted the original link for might be better suited or perhaps I am just being seduced by the marine name

I might try a set of trousers ( I have not got any at the moment) first and see if the breath ability of the material is much different to what I already have before I get another jacket

Regards Don

I still have Henry loyds from when I was doing a lot of offshore racing, which is very good. A bit of over kill for coastal sailing and casual sailing up north here, but when it is cold and wet, you really appreciate spending the money. (e.g S2H in a 40kn southerly!)

Musto, Burke, and Gill are all good brands and you see them a lot on other boast and sailors!

I did see some gear on eBay, from britian, that looked good....it seemed about the same price as gill, and including postage, was competitive.

Having had marlin, musto, Burke and Henri loyd, you do get what you pay for.

I had the better burke stuff (PB20?) for years, it was quite good. Use it manily for day sails, and a few 2-3 day offshore races. The basic burke stuff (PB10?) I reckon is fine if you are doing day sails, and the temp doesnt get too cold. Have a water proof mid layer, and use some thermals under that if it likely to be cold.

The one good thing about spending the big $$$ on good musto gear is you know it will cope with that one ocasiona when its much colder, wetter & windier than you planned, and you need to stay dry & warm much longer than anticipated! Being out at sea cold & wet is miserable, and will quickly take out a crew member.

Poods

Poodle said...
I had the better burke stuff (PB20?) for years, it was quite good. Use it manily for day sails, and a few 2-3 day offshore races. The basic burke stuff (PB10?) I reckon is fine if you are doing day sails, and the temp doesnt get too cold. Have a water proof mid layer, and use some thermals under that if it likely to be cold.

The one good thing about spending the big $$$ on good musto gear is you know it will cope with that one ocasiona when its much colder, wetter & windier than you planned, and you need to stay dry & warm much longer than anticipated! Being out at sea cold & wet is miserable, and will quickly take out a crew member.

Poods

This is my attitude, when your are out in it, and its wet and cold, your really appreciate spending for the better gear.

Donk is down tassy, and I have been sailing up the Huon, probably about the 4th or 6th January, (20 years ago) and it was freezing.

I had on good musto offshore gear, seaboots, thick woollen socks, thermals, snug mid layer, beanie, all the good gear, blowing dogs off chains, storm jib and double reef, white water everywhere, snow on Mt wellington.......it was really cold and I was glad I had spent, in those days, probably around $500-$600 for some good gear.

We were cruising after the big race, and we couldnt go home after the sail for a shower and dry clothes!

The first problem many of you seem to have with wet weather gear is you turn the wrong way at the heads. My first rule is always turn left and keep the coast on the left. If I think of turning right I revert to rule 1. It gets warmer by the mile in that direction.
If the sea builds or it rains, set the Fleming and go below to the warm cabin.
Seriously, I prefer lighter gear that keeps you dry but isn't insulated as you can put layers under it to keep warm if needed. The stuff that is good for going to Hobart is hot and sticky when used in warmer climes when you just want to be dry.

MorningBird said...
The first problem many of you seem to have with wet weather gear is you turn the wrong way at the heads. My first rule is always turn left and keep the coast on the left. If I think of turning right I revert to rule 1. It gets warmer by the mile in that direction.
If the sea builds or it rains, set the Fleming and go below to the warm cabin.
Seriously, I prefer lighter gear that keeps you dry but isn't insulated as you can put layers under it to keep warm if needed. The stuff that is good for going to Hobart is hot and sticky when used in warmer climes when you just want to be dry.

Sounds good!!

So which brand and model do I buy??

Donk107 said...

Supersonic27 said..

Donk is down tassy, and I have been sailing up the Huon, probably about the 4th or 6th January, (20 years ago) and it was freezing.

I had on good musto offshore gear, seaboots, thick woollen socks, thermals, snug mid layer, beanie, all the good gear, blowing dogs off chains, storm jib and double reef, white water everywhere, snow on Mt wellington.......it was really cold and I was glad I had spent, in those days, probably around $500-$600 for some good gear.

Ah

A lovely summers day on the Huon

Cant wait till winter is over and it warms up a bit as described

Seriously though I am looking for something to wear for the first race of the season (the pipe opener) in September where we start in Hobart at 7pm (after a 6 hour sail and motor to get there) and race down the channel to the finish line around midnight and then motor up the Huon to Port Huon to arrive home at around 3am

Regards Don

I think we had been stuck in the duckpond for 2 days as a "vigorous cold front" went thru!

One of the 1st times I truly appreciated the situation when we heard the forecast for the west coast......50-60 knots.....before the days when "please be aware that wind gusts may be 40% higher" was included in the broadcast and I think 2 or 3 of the Hobart boats had gone around to Macquarie harbour, they copped a pasting.

This is Port Huon in late september

The thing i am a bit concerned about is the Musto's i linked to are not Gortex (about another $300 a piece for Gortex) and if i bought them i might just be buying something similar (with a marine price tag) to what i already have in my hi vizability breathable work jacket




Regards Don

Read all bout it! here: http://www.tradeaboat.com.au/news/features/1208/buyers-guide-wet-weather-gear/

That said I personally have a Burke Southerly jacket (best value for money imo and has never let me down) for offshore and a Musto inshore for day sailing on the harbour (Bought the musto first and for offshore in cold wet and high sea state you need something better - hence needed to purchase the Burke Southerly). For overalls I have Westcoast brand. The Westcoast brand (Sweedish I understand) has been good for me and I notice quite a bit being worn around by crews. They also produce offshore jackets and are good value for money.

Whatever you choose it has to be windproof, waterproof and breathable, but for offshore I have found the jacket needs to have both hand warmer pockets in addition to larger flapped pockets and other pockets higher up for a plb are useful. Make sure the hood is large enough to cover the eventuality of a wave breaking over you. In that case you want the water running off down the back of the jacket not down into the jacket. And you still need a decent fleece under any of the jackets essential at night in winter. A pair of Burke sea boot with long Henri Lloyd sox has kept my feet dry and warm on the coldest and wettest of winter night watches.

good decision

Ive found wearing an american peaked cap under poorly wet weather hoods solves the one eyed incumbrance..