Outboard motor for 20 foot swing keel - HP?

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Fiesta
Fiesta
QLD
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10 Aug 2013 9:59am
Hi,

I am in the process of replacing our outboard for a 20 foot swing keel spacesailer.

Primary goal is to get a unit that is light enough to easily remove off the transom and still give enough thrust for pushing a bit of tide / windage drag. The eternal dilemma!

The bracket on the transom is pretty low and the 5HP unit I have is a real struggle to lift on and off. Due to the transom hung rudder there is not a notched transom like a hood 23 etc to easily access the bracket.

I think I could "get away" with a 3.3hp unit, but I am struggling to find one with a Reverse Gear - Pivoting the engine through 180 degrees is tricky due to clearance to the transom.

Any thoughts on my options?
Donk107
Donk107
TAS
2446 posts
TAS, 2446 posts
10 Aug 2013 11:27am
Hi Fiesta

Just a question

Why do you have to take the motor off (i assume it is when when you trailer it)

On my 20 foot fin keeler it has a 6hp Johnson on a lifting bracket and if it was a swing keeler with it in the up position i would imagine it would be trailable with the outboard supported as you would do on a power boat

Regards Don


southace
southace
SA
4798 posts
SA, 4798 posts
10 Aug 2013 3:33pm
Fiesta said..

Hi,

I am in the process of replacing our outboard for a 20 foot swing keel spacesailer.

Primary goal is to get a unit that is light enough to easily remove off the transom and still give enough thrust for pushing a bit of tide / windage drag. The eternal dilemma!

The bracket on the transom is pretty low and the 5HP unit I have is a real struggle to lift on and off. Due to the transom hung rudder there is not a notched transom like a hood 23 etc to easily access the bracket.

I think I could "get away" with a 3.3hp unit, but I am struggling to find one with a Reverse Gear - Pivoting the engine through 180 degrees is tricky due to clearance to the transom.

Any thoughts on my options?


5 hp tohatsu 2 stroke single cylinder is the lightest,most reliable and cost effective outboard on the market... It's weight is 19kg and I quite often lift it from my tender up onto my yacht without to much trouble.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
10 Aug 2013 4:23pm
southace said..
5 hp tohatsu 2 stroke single cylinder is the lightest,most reliable and cost effective outboard on the market... It's weight is 19kg and I quite often lift it from my tender up onto my yacht without to much trouble.


That would be the same engine as a Mercury or Mariner wouldn't it???

Ramona
Ramona
NSW
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NSW, 7754 posts
10 Aug 2013 6:31pm
cisco said..

southace said..
5 hp tohatsu 2 stroke single cylinder is the lightest,most reliable and cost effective outboard on the market... It's weight is 19kg and I quite often lift it from my tender up onto my yacht without to much trouble.


That would be the same engine as a Mercury or Mariner wouldn't it???




Do they sell the Tohatsu 3.5 still? The 3.5 had a gearbox, 2.5 did not. 3.5 with a nozzle would be fine. the 3.5 is the same as a Mercury and a Nissan, not sure about Mariner.
southace
southace
SA
4798 posts
SA, 4798 posts
11 Aug 2013 8:29am
I compare tohatsu and mercury to Telstra and Optus. My pic is Telstra/tohatsu !
Fiesta
Fiesta
QLD
122 posts
QLD, 122 posts
11 Aug 2013 3:38pm
Thanks all, Looking at the Tohatsu 4 HP next week. Is it best to drain integral tanks after use?

Cheers
Donk107
Donk107
TAS
2446 posts
TAS, 2446 posts
11 Aug 2013 3:49pm
Hi Fiesta

Looking at the Tohatsu website the 5 is the same weight as the 4 and both have a intergral tank and the 5 can run a external tank as well so would a 5 not be a better option

I assume because weight was the issue you are looking at 2 strokes

Regards Don
Fiesta
Fiesta
QLD
122 posts
QLD, 122 posts
11 Aug 2013 5:02pm
Don,
Yes weight is the issue so staying with the 2 stroke, I think you are correct the 4 HP is the same engine as the 5 HP, with a different injection fitting. So may go to the 5HP depending on the cost differential.

Cheers
Donk107
Donk107
TAS
2446 posts
TAS, 2446 posts
11 Aug 2013 5:13pm
I can't imagine there would be a huge difference in the price and there might come a time when the extra 1hp makes life a bit easier for you to get somewhere

Regards Don
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
NSW, 2140 posts
11 Aug 2013 7:00pm
Of course there is going to be a huge difference, The five horse is a twenty percent power increase over the four horse, so this being a form of Pr1ck tax I expect the five to be at least twenty percent dearer.

Or as the salesman will attempt to explain it; "Oh no sir the the five horsepower model whilst it may look the same is an entirely new motor with very much different and much more expensive technology"
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7754 posts
NSW, 7754 posts
11 Aug 2013 7:13pm
LooseChange said..

Of course there is going to be a huge difference, The five horse is a twenty percent power increase over the four horse, so this being a form of Pr1ck tax I expect the five to be at least twenty percent dearer.

Or as the salesman will attempt to explain it; "Oh no sir the the five horsepower model whilst it may look the same is an entirely new motor with very much different and much more expensive technology"


My tender motor is a Tohatsu 2.5 uprated to a 3.5. The previous owner did the conversion, just changed the jets!
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
NSW, 2140 posts
11 Aug 2013 7:27pm
Yep, or in some cases they are fitted with restrictor plates in the induction system or a smaller carby. Remove those and or replace, Voila! Instant extra power.
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