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badinfluence
badinfluence
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10 Mar 2012 9:00am
Desperate to get a kite for my Eureka 32 cat.

Need something dead simple as it's just me most times.

I don't have a prodder.

There's a UK Halsey Assymetrical in a chute that was built for a Roberts 29 advertised on the noticeboard for $1500, apparently in perfect nic.

Is this a good price? (I'm not good at negotiating ).

Would it be an adequate size for my size cat?

How do I run it without a prodder? Brace through a block on the windward bow and sheet likewise on leeward?? I do have a pole from a 24ft yacht??

Any advice appreciated..have a fab weekend
trace



SandS
SandS
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10 Mar 2012 11:14am
I don't know anything about multies , but on the sloops we don't run poles with the assermetrical , they are just a big jib on a strop at the tack.

The sock I recon is more of a pain than a help. My opinion only thousand will disagree.

Hope that is some help.

Cheers
Jedibrad
Jedibrad
NSW
527 posts
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10 Mar 2012 9:11pm
Hi, we are in the same boat (sorry couldn't resist) solo same size cat

I use a big symmetrical in a sock really easy to use with two sheets off each clew, one to the bow and to the stern.

I can use the main as well but usually just throw it up on it's own and read a book

LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
NSW, 2140 posts
10 Mar 2012 10:53pm
Hi,
The kite for the Roberts will be too full to use effectively on a cat unless you are just going to be running downwind with it. to make full use of an asymmetrical on a cat it needs to be cut flat.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
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11 Mar 2012 8:21am
Keep an eye on eBay. There is no need to spend big money.
Poodle
Poodle
WA
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12 Mar 2012 9:18am
$1500 is a lot for a 2nd hand spinaker - Even if it is in good knick.

I guess you are after something around 60m2 give or take..?? Cruising use, so solid & forgiving.

Stay in touch with your local sailmakers - I find on the west coast they seem to know of numerous traded kites that are up for grabs.

I would be thinking of the order of a few $100 for something in decent condition, perhaps $500 tops for something in good knick.

Poods
badinfluence
badinfluence
QLD
538 posts
QLD, 538 posts
12 Mar 2012 1:02pm
Happy Monday everyone

Thanks fellas for the advice...both practical and financial about the kite.

Sorry taken so long to get back...bloody study getting in the way of sailing....although I did get dragged away from it for a while on Saturday on a sssshhhhhh.......mono...LOL!

Trace

slainte
slainte
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12 Mar 2012 6:30pm
Well done Trace, good to see you,re headin' in the right direction
SandS
SandS
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12 Mar 2012 7:45pm
Yes , sustainable sailing , one hull instead of two !
shoodbegood
shoodbegood
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12 Mar 2012 10:54pm
Why do you have to say "retarded" question? Not good if you think about it.
badinfluence
badinfluence
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13 Mar 2012 2:16pm
shoodbegood said...

Why do you have to say "retarded" question? Not good if you think about it.



re?tard 1 (r-t?rd)
v. re?tard?ed, re?tard?ing, re?tards
v.tr.
To cause to move or proceed slowly; delay or impede.
v.intr.
To be delayed.
n.
1. A slowing down or hindering of progress; a delay.
2. Music A slackening of tempo.
[Middle English retarden, from Old French retarder, from Latin retardre : re-, re- + tardre, to delay (from tardus, slow).
www.thefreedictionary.com/retard

No offence to anyone intended Shoodbegood.

Those who contributed to this thread generally know me Forumwise and, therefore, read it in the context in which it was intended, i.e. a lighthearted laugh at my own protracted development along the sailing/liveaboard continuum. I don't expect you to be a mind-reader, however, nor do I expect to be slammed for the use of a contextual word.

Happy Tuesday to all




dralyagmas
dralyagmas
SA
380 posts
SA, 380 posts
13 Mar 2012 4:02pm
60m2 asso would be pretty close to an 18 ft skiff kite. Theys ell kites pretty frequently so hit up them
shoodbegood
shoodbegood
VIC
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13 Mar 2012 10:11pm
Thank you badinfluence, I appreciate your reply. Sorry, just going through a sensitive time
crustysailor
crustysailor
VIC
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13 Mar 2012 10:23pm
Badinfluence let us know if you find something kitewise and how it turns out.

Looks like I will be losing a hull and joining the cat crowd with a 30' boat joining the family soon, all being well. It has no kite either, plus 41 ft mast is bigger than I've ever had before, so the wardrobe is bare.

Jedibrad
Jedibrad
NSW
527 posts
NSW, 527 posts
14 Mar 2012 9:50am
You've got to have a good think about 'what' you want your kite for.....

Set and forget deep down wind?? cruising?? (i call mine the fuel saver as many boats get frustrated and motor in light down wind conditions)

or

Flat cut working the angles down wind?? racing?? (your genny barber hauled will do a really good job too)
badinfluence
badinfluence
QLD
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QLD, 538 posts
14 Mar 2012 2:13pm
thanks guys for the further info. Kite off an 18-footer...yeah!! Go a symmetrical as well, just for fun hehehe!

I'm just cruising (race on a mono...yeah, yeah, i know, doesn't sound like it makes sense, but it's one of those 'you had to be there' things lol) so it's a fuel-saver like you call it Jedibrad. In a former life, the motor was always running and I hated it...now I'm free to do what I want and sail my boat the way I want, thus inspiration for the kite. I like the idea of the set and forget kite only without a main...less moving parts so to speak. Oh, and to read a book!!! If only for the cash for an autohelm as well lol!!..........but that's why you have children hehehe

Wonderful Wednesday
tr

LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
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14 Mar 2012 3:56pm
I tend to think that an 18' skiff kite would be too lightly constructed, bearing in mind that it was designed to move a hull weight of 170 kilos not one approximately 3.5 tonnes. With that in mind it may be more prudent to go with something more suitable for that weight of boat.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
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14 Mar 2012 6:23pm
LooseChange said...

I tend to think that an 18' skiff kite would be too lightly constructed, bearing in mind that it was designed to move a hull weight of 170 kilos not one approximately 3.5 tonnes. With that in mind it may be more prudent to go with something more suitable for that weight of boat.


18 foot skiff spinnaker would be heaps strong enough. I'm sure Badinfluence would only be using it in moderate breezes and most likely dead down wind. Something like 1 1/2 ounce would be light enough but also strong enough to handle some rough treatment.
I have 5 spinnakers from 3/4 up to a 6 ounce storm spinnaker! [there is an oxymoron for you]. Only one I use is a cruising chute which I can handle singlehanded.
Just watch the sailing gear section of eBay for awhile or do some dumpster diving! I have seen a really good spinnaker bought from the recycling shop at Callala dump.
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
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14 Mar 2012 7:50pm
Aint that Callala Dump shop just the best? The number of sailboard sails and masts I've gotten from there .... at peanut prices, just brilliant.
shoodbegood
shoodbegood
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14 Mar 2012 10:18pm
Hi Trace, Thanks for your email. I didn't mean to make you feel bad or anything. You are a real nice person and I was wrong to post what I did. I'm fine with everything. Cheers Trace.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7752 posts
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15 Mar 2012 8:41am
LooseChange said...

Aint that Callala Dump shop just the best? The number of sailboard sails and masts I've gotten from there .... at peanut prices, just brilliant.


Ulladulla one is excellent too.
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
NSW, 2140 posts
15 Mar 2012 3:13pm
Yet the one at Sussex is crap, go figure.
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