landyacht said...
thats a lot of sail bling your adding. . Make your yacht bigger,and your sailing area clearer,bigger to allow you time to didle around. also let other landsailors get out of the way because your going to be rather busy sorting your tanged lines.
I'd say yiu have this all pretty well sorted so the next thing to do is go try it. I did ,and i learned all those lessons . Gosh that was almost 30 years ago!

bazl said...

The way I see it you can still tinker as much as you like within the confines of the Promo rules. Just means you dont need to mortgage the house to make simple changes.

landyacht said...


You have seen the light my friend. same running gear in sails,wheels ,mast etc same speed and sensations,without the price. '
In reality there are no Australian class 5 yachts that would even begin to give the European yachts a run on any surface

Promo girl said...

Hi Hills, there is a number of differences between international cl5 and promo class 5. Promo's are class 5's but not all class 5's are Promos.

Class 5 for quite a number of years was very big internationally and developments in the class were fast and furious. FISLY often had to interpret or allow/disallow various new ideas that people came up with. However internationally over the last 5-7 years to be competetive on a international racing stage you needed an ever increasing pocket as advancements became more and more costly. Here in Australia we tend to hang on to our yachts for several seasons and can still race locally at a good level. This is not the case elsewhere. Last years yacht design in class 5 was old and slow.

There have been several attempts to regulate class 5 to a more *one design* or cheaper version - both here in Aus and internationally. The Club 88, FEd 5's and Pacific Magics are all examples of this. Aussies started modifying Pacific Magics at about chassis no 7.

One design classes can and do work as Standart as shown.

The Promo class 5 is another attempt to regulate class 5 as a cheaper and simpler land yacht that can be built and raced internationally on a reasonably level playing field rather than just on who has the most money. The big advantage that Promo has over other attempts to regulate class 5 is that it has been ratified by FISLY, none of the others had.

It is currently being raced in Europe (mainly France at the moment), several Sth American countries and here in Aus.

Interestingly enough with the exception of your Pacific Magic mast step your class 5 would be close to fitting into Promo rules.

I like racing class 5, it is fast and fun. However my posket is not deep. Internationally my yachts have not been competetive for some time. However my new Promo is now up there with the best and cost just over $2000 to build.

Promo class still allows quite a latitude for personal design and expression however you need to use a relatively simple chassis, wheel barrow wheels and a dacron sail.

I won't bore you with any further differences between Promo's and Class 5's best way to see the difference is look in the FISLY specs. (Aussie class 5 rules are donkeys years behind the rest of the world)

I'll find some photos of my yacht and post.
cheers
Promo Girl

Promo girl said...

heccles said <i have just gone thru the fisly rules all 83 pages by the way and see that the only differences between the fisly cl5 and aussie ci 5 are rules b2@s1 on page 24 ,am i missing something as in the way i see it that does not put the adelaide rule book donkey years behind the rest of world>

I said Aust cl 5 rules not Adelaide.

Despite the fact I have seen a couple of *drafts* for updates both for class Aust cl5 rules and ALSA sailing rules (least one in marked Jan 2006 draft). These drafts have not been accepted as we have not had a National Championships and AGM in many many years. I think you will find the last ratified ALSA sailing rules dates at 1991.

perhaps we better agree to diagree Heccles on the above points.

promo girl